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Paul Markham 07-24-2016 09:08 AM

EU considers migration ?emergency brake? for UK for up to seven years
 
EU considers migration ?emergency brake? for UK for up to seven years

What the EU bureaucrats don't understand is the British don't want a 7-year brake on mass migration. They want control of their borders forever. They don't want a group of bureaucrats deciding what the British can and cannot do. This goes for most Europeans.

The EU has blackmailed Europe for too long, they kidnapped the Trade Deal and forced Europe to allow them to rule.

Dvae 07-24-2016 09:30 AM

Trump was right again!

Paul Markham 07-24-2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21056329)
Trump was right again!

On Trade Deals he's right. Free Trade has been devastating for most people in the West.

Bladewire 07-24-2016 09:54 AM

So Europe could only handle the tip, need a break, then take the whole black immigration dick balls deep :1orglaugh

mineistaken 07-24-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21056392)
So Europe could only handle the tip, need a break, then take the whole black immigration dick balls deep :1orglaugh

That is how these scum EU government types think.

pimpmaster9000 07-24-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21056287)
EU considers migration ?emergency brake? for UK for up to seven years

What the EU bureaucrats don't understand is the British don't want a 7-year brake on mass migration. They want control of their borders forever. They don't want a group of bureaucrats deciding what the British can and cannot do. This goes for most Europeans.

The EU has blackmailed Europe for too long, they kidnapped the Trade Deal and forced Europe to allow them to rule.

But but england colonized half the globe and it was no biggie...

klinton 07-24-2016 04:29 PM

I dont recall them colonizing eastern europe, balkans, baltic states and meditterean :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21057175)
But but england colonized half the globe and it was no biggie...


mineistaken 07-24-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21057175)
But but england colonized half the globe and it was no biggie...

Tool, get it to your head that times back then and times now are very different in what is "acceptable" behavior.

Paul Markham 07-24-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21057175)
But but england colonized half the globe and it was no biggie...

We colonised shit hole countries and turned some into great countries and some reverted back to shit holes after the natives decided they wanted to run it themselves. A lot of these shit holes would starve to death if not for Western Aid. Often because the leaders who are amazingly wealthy, refuse to look after their own people.

Study a map and see the truth.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21057706)
We colonised shit hole countries and turned some into great countries and some reverted back to shit holes after the natives decided they wanted to run it themselves. A lot of these shit holes would starve to death if not for Western Aid. Often because the leaders who are amazingly wealthy, refuse to look after their own people.

Study a map and see the truth.

oh you made them great? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh by exploiting the shit out of the weak??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tell me paul how many millions of people died in the bengal famine?

can you tell me how they would have starved to death if the UK did not take their food? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


just sayin' : the UK colonized half the world but is a very very bad sport now :thumbsup

wehateporn 07-25-2016 02:57 AM


Paul Markham 07-25-2016 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21057826)
oh you made them great? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh by exploiting the shit out of the weak??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tell me paul how many millions of people died in the bengal famine?

can you tell me how they would have starved to death if the UK did not take their food? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


just sayin' : the UK colonized half the world but is a very very bad sport now :thumbsup

Yes GB made money out of weak countries. It also built up Austalia, New Zealand, Canada, and kick-started America.

Now look at some of the countries it also ruled, gave Independence to and those countries started to kill each other. And continued to exploit their own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21057994)
Yes GB made money out of weak countries. It also built up Austalia, New Zealand, Canada, and kick-started America.

Now look at some of the countries it also ruled, gave Independence to and those countries started to kill each other. And continued to exploit their own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India

when you say "built up" you mean it savaged the natives and exported criminals to said countries? :thumbsup

you are being a very bad sport (not you the UK) :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2016 08:02 AM

You have to pay to drink at the EU well.

I see a ''trade tube'' in your (UK) future.

Abandoning the NAFTA trade agreements would have the same effects on the USA.

Since I am selling digital goods hopefully our free market globally will continue.

Protectionistic economic theories always have failed -- the American Revolution was in part because of the crown's protectionism forbidding the colonies manufactured goods export to England. England only wanted colonial raw materials exported to England -- see what that got you? :thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-25-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21058093)
when you say "built up" you mean it savaged the natives and exported criminals to said countries? :thumbsup

you are being a very bad sport (not you the UK) :2 cents:

Tell about the Serbian war criminals responsible for the genocide in Bosnia and how Serbs hid many of these criminals. Why did Serbs murder so many innocent people?

Paul Markham 07-25-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21058330)
You have to pay to drink at the EU well.

I see a ''trade tube'' in your (UK) future.

Abandoning the NAFTA trade agreements would have the same effects on the USA.

Since I am selling digital goods hopefully our free market globally will continue.

Protectionistic economic theories always have failed -- the American Revolution was in part because of the crown's protectionism forbidding the colonies manufactured goods export to England. England only wanted colonial raw materials exported to England -- see what that got you? :thumbsup

Yes the EU forced itself on Europe. We already had a great trade deal.

Protectionism was during a time when the West were Net exporters, as net importers than can insist the Third World balances trade or face tariffs. The EU also controls who EU countries can export to. No longer are France, Germany, UK until it leaves and the rest able to strike trade deals on their own. The EU does it for them and takes 3-4 times longer than need be. Ending up with a deal that suits no one. TTIP is about giving US companies the right to sue EU Governments. If the US company doesn't get a deal it feels was fair.

Also, gives EU companies the right to sue the US government, I just don't see that going down well with US citizens if they lose more than they gain.

Bladewire 07-25-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21058330)
You have to pay to drink at the EU well.

I see a ''trade tube'' in your (UK) future.

Abandoning the NAFTA trade agreements would have the same effects on the USA.

Since I am selling digital goods hopefully our free market globally will continue.

Protectionistic economic theories always have failed -- the American Revolution was in part because of the crown's protectionism forbidding the colonies manufactured goods export to England. England only wanted colonial raw materials exported to England -- see what that got you? :thumbsup

The problem isn't the agreements, it's our deficits due to others cheating. So we keep playing a game we'll always lose due to cheats just to stay friends with the cheaters?


Such outcomes include a staggering $181 billion U.S. trade deficit with NAFTA partners Mexico and Canada and the related loss of 1 million net U.S. jobs under NAFTA, growing income inequality, displacement of more than one million Mexican campesino farmers and a doubling of desperate immigration from Mexico, and more than $360 million paid to corporations after ?investor-state? tribunal attacks on, and rollbacks of, domestic public interest policies.

The study makes for a blood-boiling read. For instance, we track the specific promises made by U.S. corporations like GE, Chrysler and Caterpillar to create specific numbers of American jobs if NAFTA was approved, and reveal government data showing that instead, they fired U.S. workers and moved operations to Mexico.

The data also show how post-NAFTA trade and investment trends have contributed to middle-class pay cuts, which in turn contributed to growing income inequality; how since NAFTA, U.S. trade deficit growth with Mexico and Canada has been 45 percent higher than with countries not party to a U.S. Free Trade Agreement, and how U.S. manufacturing exports to Canada and Mexico have grown at less than half the pre-NAFTA rate.

NAFTA at 20: One Million U.S. Jobs Lost, Higher Income Inequality

wehateporn 07-25-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21058783)
Tell about the Serbian war criminals responsible for the genocide in Bosnia and how Serbs hid many of these criminals. Why did Serbs murder so many innocent people?

False Flag :2 cents:

The truth about the Srebrenica 'genocide', 20 yrs later

https://www.sott.net/article/299068-...e-20-yrs-later

This past week the world was reminded that it has been 20 years since the events following the Bosnian Serb Army's entry into Srebrenica and today I am posting a special report about this event which I personally consider of absolutely crucial importance in world history not only because of the large number of people who died in this event, but also because it served as the pretext for the first completely illegal war of aggression by the US/NATO which attacked the Bosnian Serbs in violation of the UN Charter. All the subsequent wars of aggression of the AngloZionist Empire (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc.) have their prototype in the war against the Bosnian-Serbs.

I can personally attest that doubts about what really happened (or not) in Srebrenica were voiced in, shall we say, "well informed circles" within days of the Bosnian-Serb conquest of the city. I cannot name these circles, but let's just that that I am talking about people with direct access to classified information coming out of Bosnia. One thing was immediately established: that a large number of armed Bosnian-Muslim men had attempted a breakthrough from Srebrenica to Tuzla and that 1) many had been killed in *combat* with Bosnian-Serbs and many actually made it to Tuzla.

[Sidebar: Srebrenica had been declared a "safe area" by the UN. That meant two main things: first, the Bosnian-Muslims had to totally demilitarize the entire town while the Bosnian-Serbs had to stop attacking it, nevermind entering it. These UN "safe heavens" were intended for civilians only. In reality, however, the Bosnian-Muslims kept an entire Mountain Division in Srebrenica and they continued to reinforce it both by land and by air. To make things even worse, the Bosnian-Muslims constantly used Srebrenica as a safe base to attack the Bosnian-Serb positions around the town. At the beginning of the war, the Bosnian-Muslims had already burned down all the Bosnian-Serb villages around Srebrenica and massacred most of the civilians living they found in them (we are talking about several thousand civilians). The local Bosnian-Serbs had promised that one day they would take revenge for these massacres and some of them, indeed, did that when the Bosnian-Serbs entered Srebrenica. Needless to say, none of that was ever reported by the western corporate Ziomedia].

The other fact which all "well informed" folks knew is that there had been several "false flag" massacres in Sarajevo, in particular the so-called "Markale market massacres" (1994 and 1995) both of which were not attributable to the Bosnian-Serbs, something which UNPRFOR knew but could not say publicly.

While I am personally convinced that the official narrative about Srebrenica (a deliberate mass murder or even genocide organized by the Bosnian-Serbs) is false, I have also come to believe that this was not a "simple" false flag attack either. Srebrenica was a simultaneous combination of the following:

1. Combat operations between regular Bosnian-Serb forces and Bosnian-Muslim forces attempting to break out of Srebrenica.
2. The "spontaneous" execution of a number of civilians and POWs by Bosnian-Serbs seeking revenge.
3. The deliberate execution of a number of civilians and POWs ordered not by Bosnian-Serbs but by some Yugoslav (Federal) officials.
4. A deliberate PSYOP by the USA to grossly inflate the number of victims and blame the Bosnian-Serbs.

Continued https://www.sott.net/article/299068-...e-20-yrs-later

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21058783)
Tell about the Serbian war criminals responsible for the genocide in Bosnia and how Serbs hid many of these criminals. Why did Serbs murder so many innocent people?

So many? Lets say the entire death toll of the war was placed on just one side. Black and white. Bill Clinton did not lie LOL lets say 100K people died...Just serbs killed others, nobody else killed serbs etc, pure black and white with top estimates, fuck reality...

The UK starved to death 4.000.000 bengali people just in India by taking their food. Thats 40x more that the top figure I could come up with for bosnia :thumbsup

maybe your definition of "building up" is different? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just saying the UK is being an awfully bad sport about this considering it exploited to shit half the world :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

INever 07-25-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21057706)
We colonised shit hole countries and turned some into great countries and some reverted back to shit holes after the natives decided they wanted to run it themselves. A lot of these shit holes would starve to death if not for Western Aid. Often because the leaders who are amazingly wealthy, refuse to look after their own people.

Study a map and see the truth.

Agree with Paul on this one.
At the very least, Hong Kong and Singapore are better than Mainland China.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 21058903)
Agree with Paul on this one.
At the very least, Hong Kong and Singapore are better than Mainland China.

yes yes tell that to the 4.000.000 people in bengal alone that the UK starved to death by actually taking away 60% of their crops...

if they gave out medals for countries being a bad sport, the UK would win gold...

Bladewire 07-25-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21059701)
yes yes tell that to the 4.000.000 people in bengal alone that the UK starved to death by actually taking away 60% of their crops...

if they gave out medals for countries being a bad sport, the UK would win gold...

What awful things has your country done, or is your country kind & pure to the world?

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21059725)
What awful things has your country done, or is your country kind & pure to the world?

what does this have to do with the UK being a bad sport?...it colonized half the world, no biggie, starved almost as much indians and hitler killed jews, no biggie, but now it does not want others coming to the UK and others telling it how to live?

just pointing out the elephant in the room that is UK being an obvious bad sport<---UK

Tubthumper 07-25-2016 06:08 PM

Crucifissio is a retard.

pimpmaster9000 07-25-2016 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubthumper (Post 21059767)
Crucifissio is a retard.

and the UK is a bad sport :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 07-25-2016 06:22 PM

There are about 32 Million more people working in the USA since NAFTA c.1996 v. 2016 (partial data).

They all are not all working at Wally World stocking shelves or at Micky D's flippin' burgers.

How many wagon builders and buggy whip manufacturing workers were still making those products in the USA c. 1939?

Over all the consumer has benefited from cost efficiencies. Some workers lose out but things were not so great in the last 2nd greatest recession; 1981 - 1983 -- the dark Reagan years when manufacturing jobs and workers' unions had their throats cut and their guts ripped out -- no one likes to talk about that but there was a lot of ''blood'' on the floor in that go round. There really was not much left when NAFTA was negotiated.

In the NAFTA Treaty Mexico was a beneficiary -- the USA and Canada had close production cost parity.

The UK wants it their way but doesn't want to pay the EU price -- the EU says Fuck Off nicely but could you stay in NATO please -- if we fall you will be next.

Paul Markham 07-25-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21058843)
So many? Lets say the entire death toll of the war was placed on just one side. Black and white. Bill Clinton did not lie LOL lets say 100K people died...Just serbs killed others, nobody else killed serbs etc, pure black and white with top estimates, fuck reality...

The UK starved to death 4.000.000 bengali people just in India by taking their food. Thats 40x more that the top figure I could come up with for bosnia :thumbsup

maybe your definition of "building up" is different? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just saying the UK is being an awfully bad sport about this considering it exploited to shit half the world :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Was that the famine during the war when British troops were dying, trying to protact India from Japanese troops?

So why did the Serbs invade a peaceful country and murder so many?

Paul Markham 07-25-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21059800)
There are about 32 Million more people working in the USA since NAFTA c.1996 v. 2016 (partial data).

They all are not all working at Wally World stocking shelves or at Micky D's flippin' burgers.

How many wagon builders and buggy whip manufacturing workers were still making those products in the USA c. 1939?

Over all the consumer has benefited from cost efficiencies. Some workers lose out but things were not so great in the last 2nd greatest recession; 1981 - 1983 -- the dark Reagan years when manufacturing jobs and workers' unions had their throats cut and their guts ripped out -- no one likes to talk about that but there was a lot of ''blood'' on the floor in that go round. There really was not much left when NAFTA was negotiated.

In the NAFTA Treaty Mexico was a beneficiary -- the USA and Canada had close production cost parity.

The UK wants it their way but doesn't want to pay the EU price -- the EU says Fuck Off nicely but could you stay in NATO please -- if we fall you will be next.

Overall wages and living standards are dropping in the West. Making your entire case irrelevant. And the exodus of well-paid jobs is growing.

pimpmaster9000 07-26-2016 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21060031)
Was that the famine during the war when British troops were dying, trying to protact India from Japanese troops?

The decision of the British empire to the destroy food crops in Bengal to make way for opium poppy cultivation for export reduced food availability and contributed to the famine.[15] Other right-wing British policies that contributed to the famine included ordering farmers to plant indigo instead of rice, as well as forbidding the "hoarding" of rice. This prevented traders and dealers from laying in reserves that in other times would have tided the population over lean periods.

starving 4.000.000 to death while they fight off the japs (no british troops this is in your fantasy) is a strange way to """""defend""""" them from the japs? maybe we have vastly different definitions of the word defend?

so hitler "defended" 6.000.000 jews by gassing them? shit id pick the gas chamber over starvation :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21060031)
So why did the Serbs invade a peaceful country and murder so many?

your alzheimer paul :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh serbia did not even take part in the war look it up LOL

SilentKnight 07-26-2016 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21057706)
We colonised shit hole countries and turned some into great countries and some reverted back to shit holes after the natives decided they wanted to run it themselves. A lot of these shit holes would starve to death if not for Western Aid. Often because the leaders who are amazingly wealthy, refuse to look after their own people.

Study a map and see the truth.

William Wallace just gave you the finger.

Barry-xlovecam 07-26-2016 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21060091)
Overall wages and living standards are dropping in the West. Making your entire case irrelevant. And the exodus of well-paid jobs is growing.

Some people are not capable of adapting and making career changes.
They are the modern day Luddites.
They want feed of society's tit.
Cry me a river.

Change is constant and time waits for no man :2 cents:

I got bad news for you -- 2/3 of the people on the planet are surplus to the market. If they cannot develop societies where 80% are not living in squalor, at subsistence levels without the running water and the public sanitation we take for granted -- those jobs really won't matter.

A new Attila is coming -- history repeats itself... The Barbarians will be at the gates.

Europe is not an island isolated by vast seas -- it will be the first on that invasion list -- the emigration from the Middle East area of Asia proves this.

romeo22 07-26-2016 05:28 AM

Europe is full enough with immigrants now.There are terror attack every single day

Joshua G 07-26-2016 05:32 AM

hey paul,

if you want, i will use my vote in USA & put in on hilary for you. so that your vote can help stop the good ideas on immigration that you & trump agree on. you want europe to take back its borders, but what about USA?

no no no to says paul markham. USA gotta go with the triangulating open border PC fake phony fraud liberal according to paul.

:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 07-26-2016 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21060397)

Europe is not an island isolated by vast seas -- it will be the first on that invasion list -- the emigration from the Middle East area of Asia proves this.

thanks USA! :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 07-26-2016 06:37 PM

The Uk is being a really bad sport about this ROR!

Paul Markham 07-26-2016 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21060418)
hey paul,

if you want, i will use my vote in USA & put in on hilary for you. so that your vote can help stop the good ideas on immigration that you & trump agree on. you want europe to take back its borders, but what about USA?

no no no to says paul markham. USA gotta go with the triangulating open border PC fake phony fraud liberal according to paul.

:1orglaugh

I agree with stopping mass migration. I just doubt Trump will be the man to provide any solutions.

Paul Markham 07-26-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21060397)
Some people are not capable of adapting and making career changes.
They are the modern day Luddites.
They want feed of society's tit.
Cry me a river.

In the US there are not enough well-paid jobs for those capable of changing. They feed of the rests tit or they rebel.

Your point would be valid if it wasn't total bullshit.

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A new Attila is coming -- history repeats itself... The Barbarians will be at the gates.

Europe is not an island isolated by vast seas -- it will be the first on that invasion list -- the emigration from the Middle East area of Asia proves this.
The revolution will be Governments that only look after the top 5% will be voted out. Then you will find yourself having to share more of your money.

Or Migration is stopped dead and only those who can provide for themselves are allowed in. Imports from the Thirld World asre taxed enugh to counter the loss of jobs they create. This could include your studios paying a tax for employing Third World girls instead of Americans. Your taxes rise so the Government can create jobs by building more roads, schoolse, hospitals, police, prisons, etc.


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