Camsites w/ API or XML feeds ??
 

Besides Chaturbate who offers an API to display all live models?

I've been looking for other options and they mostly suck. I'm surprised this isn't a bigger priority for cam sponsors.

Camster - not offered
CamSoda - not offered
ImLive/webcamwiz - fucking blah
Ifriends - broken
LiveJasmin - scammers
Streamate - good - just wish they had embedded chat rooms
FreeWebcamCash - scammers

Who am I missing?

NOTE TO CAM SPONSORS:
A well-implemented API would be easy for you to build and it offers unlimited possibilities. For talented webmasters, an API is better than a WhiteLabel. We use the Chaturbate API to build our own WhiteLabels and they do good business.

Bonga Cams


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Oh I forgot to mention...
BongaCams - scammers

really ?what is your experience with them .:upsidedow

try xlove they have this option.

LiveJasmin made some of the most outrageous (ridiculous) promises about percentages and "lifetime revshare." Then they decided to redefine "LIFETIME" as 2 weeks or 2 months or some shit like that. They basically said, "thank you for the spender... now fuck you". It was well discussed on the forums.

The fucks at FreeWebcamCash fucked me personally. Twice. Back in the CashTraffic / CECash days. First time It was some small amount like $350 or something like that. Maybe $425. Can't remember. But they never paid me. Had to chase 'em down and threaten to expose them on GFY. Finallllly got my money, a hollow apology, and a long story about how it was all a misunderstanding, and they *thought* the money had already been paid. So I gave them the benefit of the doubt and kept my links up.

Maybe 3 or 4 months later I realized I hadn't been getting any new checks from them (again). I'd earned somewhere around $880 and the checks never came, the checks never came.

Finally tracked them down and they said they had raised their min-payouts to $1000 instead of $200 where I'd had it set for years.... And coincidentally they'd just been reviewing my account and had "just decided" to cancel my account and keep my earnings because of "too much fraud and chargebacks" -- of course, by that time I'd made a few more sales and I'd reached the $1000 threshold. And it's amazing that my traffic performed so well for years and then suddenly it's all fraud. :mad:

All of that to say... CashTraffic / CECash had ZERO intention of paying me then. And since they are still doing the $1000 minimum payouts as seen on FreeWebcamCash join form ... it makes me think they're still running the same scam on small to medium-sized affiliates. Super Affiliates will *probably* get paid. The little guys should stay away, IMO.

hey thanks for the heads up , LJ % are always astronomical many times it does seem like a joke not sure how much money they keep for themselves so they can take it down anytime and claim something else . happy they weren't caught shaving by you.

FWC for real is big shit ... i mean the guy who represent the support . he promised to activate a program inside my account nothing near but couple of years ago after 20 questions .. think it was pps but then he set it on default program i thought i used this preference but i couldn't tell which program is running lol , luckily i sent few hundreds clicks and dropped them quickly.

Cams biggest issue is they mostly still all use Flash... not good

Hey, XSAXS, drop me or Stacy an email with what you're seeing regarding the iFriends XML, please? I don't see any issues in my testing, but I'm guessing you might be grinding on it harder than me. If you're seeing problems, I want to help get them resolved!

Emily. Pleaseee tell me you're joking!

I spent hours one weekend debugging your feeds. I sent you several detailed emails describing the problem -- down to the exact unescaped character that's causing the errors. I did everything but drive down to Lake Worth and fix it myself.

I also explained (with pictures) how to improve your live cam lander -- because blurred out video without SOME KIND of visual stimulation just isn't good enough anymore!
(It looks FAKE and it's totally not worth pulling out a credit card.)

So drop the blur entirely or if you can't do that... AT THE VERY LEAST add some model-specific eye candy to that page!

But all of that was ignored and I haven't heard anything about it OR the broken feeds.

I've been checking them (literally) every day for weeks to see if they're fixed. But they break every time there is even ONE "Couples & Groups" room online -- which is probably about 75% of the time. And THAT fact makes me realize that I must be the only webmaster who's still trying to use them. :eek2 :helpme :1orglaugh :eek7

Here's the bottom line, Emily... I need just three things:

[1] A nice selection of attractive / engaging models
[2] An XML feed (that works) and gives me as much data as possible for those attractive / engaging models
[3] A landing page and/or iframe tool that actually (truly) ENTERTAINS the surfer by allowing him to watch and interact with said attractive / engaging models

It's simple.

I'm enjoying remarkable results with other sponsors who provide those three elements.
But sadly, as of today, if I'm being generous, iFriends scores 1 out of 3.

That is really "horse and buggy" these days.

And Andy nice PR @the sun.

The problem with XML or JSON now is that it's not incorporated as an API - OAuth into an affiliate's webpage. In a perfect world that customer should never leave your website. With the performers (models/their studios) getting 40% to 50% realistically affiliate commissions need to come down to a reasonable level -- but if your customer is your customer -- with an API that is generic -- face it: these models are appearing on multiple platforms now and large cam sites do not have exclusive talent. You can find the same brand of corn in lots of grocery stores.

Also these data feeds, when used with a cookie cutter approach and with out of the box attributes -- the feeds are pretty SEO useless now. These models just cut n' paste the same info into multiple platforms. 'Garbage In Garbage Out' mmmmmmm!!!

Agreed. But is there a realistic away around that?

Also Agreed. But I doubt anyone will implement anything that elaborate except perhaps on a case-by-case basis for mega affiliates - e.g. PorhHub, etc. So in the meantime, I'm (mostly) satisfied with a Chaturbate-style XML feed and a suitable landing page. CB and SM are pretty good in this regard.

You're partially correct on this point. Partially incorrect.

• Correct: I'm convinced that cam models are the most illiterate species on Earth. They write *shit* for room descriptions, etc. Add to that a complete and total ignorance of marketing and you're right... garbage.
• Correct: Yes, when the data feeds are used in a "cookie cutter" manner, they're not very effective.
• Incorrect: BUT! When they contain good data and are implemented with care, they can be used to develop extremely savory user experiences that are not copy-n-paste clones of 1000 other sites.
  
  Example: If you look at all the stuff included in the CB feed and imagine unique ways to slice and dice that data... you can score big SEO points both on content/keywords AND engagement -- which is more important these days than anything else.
  
  This is much more powerful than their standalone WhiteLabel -- which disallows GoogleBot anyway. :mad:
  
  But CB's XML and iFrame tools allow me to create my own interactive WhiteLabels that keep surfers on my pixels for long periods of time -- Hours in some cases. And that makes the Google very happy in terms of engagement.

Barry, are any of your models from the US or Canada? If so, is there any way to pinpoint those models?

Would love to see some examples of your sites. I've been playing around with XML feeds. Interestng results but the models themselves....my goodness. At the end of the day I personally just look at the actual live girls moving around and ignore all other 'data'. But I know Big G loves that kind of stuff.

Xlovecam does not disclose model locations only the languages they claim to speak. Maybe a few are USA or Canada -- not many.

Yes, but you need to string substitute and not spit out the data like word salad.

Yes there are realistic flash alternatives but until the sword drops on Flash many will just try and milk Flash with a denial of trends. Xlovecam presents a JavaScript image array for PC browsers without Flash for now -- but this offers no sound or cam2cam without Flash on a PC currently.

Mobile is HLS with sound. HLS is like Youtube live.

So why can't cam companies just switch to HTML5 so their videos play on all devices? You mean to tell me PAYSITES are more advanced than cam companies?

Surely you jest (and yes I called you Shirley).

I know zero about this side of things, but I assumed they still use Flash because they need it to handle billing, cam2cam, etc.

Whatever the case... it's painfully obvious that some cam platforms have wrapped new window dressing around circa-2007 streaming technology. Ain't gonna cut it anymore folks!

It's gotta load fast and sharp or the guy is gonna go elsewhere.

Adapt or die. :2 cents:

Live video and sockets connecting customer and model webcams with voice is the main obstacle. Messaging of data like chat text and incremental payments is not the issue -- that is currently done in HTML5. You can broadcast live outbound only with MPEG-Dash the HTML5 player similar to that used for pre-recorded video.

WebRTC is one solution buy it is not 100% yet but very close.

Cam image quality is very good from the broadcasting server's ability. Some models have poor connections and not the best quality webcams. Customers may also have connectivity issues. Mainly it is crappy model cams and their connectivity (packet loss and latency).

xml and plenty of robust API's at Flirt4Free, skype me @ vs.kimi or check them out here: https://affiliates.flirt4free.com/

Yeah I notice this the most with indian and Asian models. LOL It's like I can hear the hamster on the wheel running and running.

So the MPEG-Dash cannot be used with cam platforms? I get it about the cams, connectivity, etc, but once everything runs through your servers shouldn't the image/video come out in a way viewable by all devices?

Sorry for my ignorance on this subject but given how the mantra in Adult is always "cams and dating" (not paysites) I would think these tech issues were long since fixed. Guess not. Then think about how much money is being "left on the table" (another favorite cliché) by not solving this problem. If I can face time on my iPhone I should be able to whack it/chat with a live cam model. No?

Hi Kimi. I was just looking at your tools a couple days ago. Looks promising. Will dig around some more to see if they'll work with what I'm doing. Thanks.

You can watch, text chat and hear sound on HTML5 with HLS mobile. Video and sound is => one way with HLS. Same way Periscope works but XloveCam's mobile works in a browser in HTML5 from any device as opposed to an Android or iOs app.

The reason cam sites are using flash still is because of latency. HLS/Dash because it's chunked data you can't really get much better then 10-15 seconds latency, which will ruin the chat experience because it takes the model a really long time to react to text. With RTMP (which is not supported by HTML5) you can get the latency down to 1-2 seconds. Cam sites will continue to use flash until webrtc becomes more widely supported amongst browsers.

This latency isn't a problem if you are streaming video games, sports, etc, etc but in a live chat type of situation it's an experience killer.

We have a great API for you. Handpicked selected models
Contact me on Skype: fruitboertje and I will be happy to give you the information you need.

You can run 500ms live with HLS buffering -- that is being done now by many webcam sites... where have you been? Video and sound out only.

WebRTC video conferencing software is available. Has been for a year now. Problem is that a limited number (5-7 people) can video conference at once -- cams and voices on. Also, there is a location issue that relates to the connection latency -- different continents or even land mileage.

Put one cam on home based fiber pipe of 1G and quite a few could connect to 'her' in silence. We did an experiment with 28 people 6 months ago and this worked ALPHA (buggy).

Last night, I tested 2/1.5 Mbs upload and1/ 4G upload with 3 cams Linux and Android (windows works fine in Chrome) for 2.5 hours video+voice in Chrome -- worked fine. Safari needs to "adapt or die" Is WebRTC ready yet? Take Safari off that chart WebRTC 90% ready to go. iOs can degrade to view only native HLS for now. If your auto is too old to use E85 ( flex fuel) -- unleaded is still available.

Periscope is using HLS (still?) and linking over 1000 to a broadcast sometimes. Generally, less than one hundred with no noticeable latency if the broadcaster is connected to WiFi -- 3G or 4G is another story but 5G is on its way and there will be other bandwidth enhancements. With 4G there are connectivity issues related to tower range and device movement ( like in a moving vehicle ).

Perfection and feature creep just retards progress with methods and business models obsoleting much faster today than they did 5 or 10 years ago. The problem is not the perfection of the technology -- the problem is people adapting to the new methods and technologies.

As a cam site they should be happy to have constructive comments from their affiliates, some reps are not aware how to run a decent website themselves so they have not the eye for it.
You did that extra mile thing, and I fully agree with you!

Landers are so important. I agree blurred out looks fake as F! I wouldn't pay on something that looked like that. Hopefully your criticism helps them improve. :)

Barry @ XLove is good people :thumbsup✌️

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Sorry that you blame FreeWebCams for some issues you had sending adult joins more than 5 years ago. Just to clear things up, CE has paid out hundreds of millions of dollars to their affiliates for over 20 years. They pride themselves on paying all of their affiliates on time each week and they are the oldest adult affiliate program on the web. That being said, they are not suckers and work diligently to weed out fraud an traffic that is not worth taking. They have grown to become selective about which affiliates they accept and the $1000 minimum payout acts as a filter and allows them to focus on larger affiliates. They also don't like being threatened with the message boards which is what it sounds like you did. They probably just paid you whatever your account balance was and closed your account. If you kept sending to a closed account, it would be your fault. There is no way they would let you keep sending if you threatened them with message board posts nor would they screw any affiliate let alone ruin their Billion Dollar reputation over $800.
I am happy to look into your past CE issues for you if you truly feel you are still owed any money, just hit me up on Skype and give me your past account details.

As for FreeWebCams, if you do not ask you will not receive. Every new affiliate I activate starts with the default program. If you want or need anything custom you need to tap me on Skype or via email or call my cell and I will be happy to give you more support then any other webcam program. We have a more custom platform than our competition and we pay a higher PPS for a free trial to cams then most adult programs can afford to. We pay weekly and I am happy to lower the minimum to $500 if you have quality cam traffic.

Sorry that you blame FreeWebCams for some issues you had sending adult joins more than 5 years ago. Just to clear things up, CE has paid out hundreds of millions of dollars to their affiliates for over 20 years. They pride themselves on paying all of their affiliates on time each week and they are the oldest adult affiliate program on the web. That being said, they are not suckers and work diligently to weed out fraud an traffic that is not worth taking. They have grown to become selective about which affiliates they accept and the $1000 minimum payout acts as a filter and allows them to focus on larger affiliates. They also don't like being threatened with the message boards which is what it sounds like you did. They probably just paid you whatever your account balance was and closed your account. If you kept sending to a closed account, it would be your fault. There is no way they would let you keep sending if you threatened them with message board posts nor would they screw any affiliate let alone ruin their Billion Dollar reputation over $800.
I am happy to look into your past CE issues for you if you truly feel you are still owed any money, just hit me up on Skype and give me your past account details.

As for FreeWebCams, if you do not ask you will not receive. Every new affiliate I activate starts with the default program. If you want or need anything custom you need to tap me on Skype or via email or call my cell and I will be happy to give you more support then any other webcam program. We have a more custom platform than our competition and we pay a higher PPS for a free trial to cams then most adult programs can afford to. We pay weekly and I am happy to lower the minimum to $500 if you have quality cam traffic.

Nice spin, dick cheese! Love how you keep saying "they" -- as if you're not inextricably related. :1orglaugh

While it's true that you've paid out hundreds of millions... and it's true that you're still sending out weekly checks... you've also NOT PAID anytime that it was convenient for you to do so.

I had sent joins to CashTraffic for several years and had never encountered any problems. I was never a super affiliate, but I sent good, consistent joins and earned good payouts. I really liked your program a LOT.

But after my traffic died off considerably (Panda or Penguin or something) my joins went down by 75-80% and you conveniently decided you didn't want to pay me any more. You stopped answering emails. Stopped sending checks. Jacked up the minimum payout (without telling anyone). And just shifty shit like that.

As I said... I LIKED your program, and I sincerely wanted to keep using it. So GFY Exposure was literally my last resort option, because I knew there was no going back.

Similarly, I really like the PPS/Free Trial model at FWC. I would love to promote that program alongside my other offerings. But when I saw that CE was behind it -- and the familiar $1000 minimum -- I immediately knew I couldn't trust it.

So yes... I DID threaten to expose your shit on GFY. That was literally the only option I had left to get paid. I'd already tried everything else I could. And we're talking months of unanswered emails, runarounds, etc.

And yes... you DID ruin your "$Billion Reputation" over $800.
That's EXACTLY what you did, at least in my mind.

And for the record... my account was never closed at CashTraffic. I can still login to this day. My affiliate links and stats still work.

:321GFY

I have managed to embed Streamate's live feed from their API into my scripts....