Patriots & Working class will flock to the Democratic party..
 

Calling it now, it's so very obvious. All those blue collar working stiffs who have been voting Republican for years will jump ship and go Democrat. Republicans are fucking the working class at every turn.. Those coal miners who believed the nonsense are even starting to wake up.. The carrier workers are asking Donald where those jobs are...

These people will all jump ship as Trump & Republicans continue to fuck them over the healthcare bill will be the icing on the cake. It absolutely fucks the middle class. Republicans can't blame Democrats anymore and now what Democrats have said for years will finally be proven with out a doubt..

The patriots and military will jump Republican ship too. Republicans can play the fake news line only so long until the Russian case finally starts seeing people charged. At that point it will be obvious Republicans in congress knew what was up and opted to fuck our country rather than protect it..

Republicans are fucked, when the pendulum swings this next time it will be like a sledge hammer.

Calling it now...

Nope.

btw, watch some Russian fishing vids. You'll like them.

Most all of my Republican friends and family are bitching about healthcare, it's really pissing people off not knowing if they'll be cut. The consensus is they are being fucked with.

The democratic party is it's own worse enemy.
They are in denial that it's time for a change. If Bernie Sanders runs then there is a chance, but like I said! They are in denial and will put a corporate democrat on the ticket. They say they are for the people while getting big campaign contributions from big money!

Trump is a billionaire corporate international businessman that took corporate money and said he was for the "little guy" and he won. So it's not ok for the Democrats to do the same? He already played that card, we have so.ething better up our sleeve :2 cents:

Democrats also won the popular vote by 3 million more votes, so next time we'll win by 6 million and lose the Electoral College again? Talk about a rigged election :2 cents:

Print up some neat-o baseball hats (<rolls eyes>)

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"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure" Abe Lincoln -- quoted in contemporary context

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Republicans will blame Democrats and Democrats will blame Republicans will blame Democrats Republicans will blame Democrats and Democrats will blame Republicans... forever

And then one day, you will realise its America that's fucked.

Insurance health costs have skyrocketed around the world, its NOT an American unique problem so no matter who was in power or what system you have... those costs still would of gone up.

Your biggest trading partner, where you make most of your money.. Europe, has just gone through one of their biggest recessions. How the freak Obama was able to steer you through that, coming off the back of a Bush administration fiasco is amazing. He deserves to be on Mount Rushmore for that, but you will never see it because of your inbreed racism.

TTP was designed to SAVE America money long term, cancelling it was the biggest money gift the USA has ever given another nation, China. Don't believe it? Let the Kiwis go first

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So the position the USA is in now, with health costs, was going to happen regardless of what systems in place. And your current administration has already fucked you for generations.

From an outsiders position it all seems to stream from a broken political system, and neither party seems to working on resolving that.

It must be true, since crockett has a history of correct predictions... :1orglaugh

Liberals are never 'patriots' to begin with - they are the ones burning the flags, not respecting them

Don't doubt the crockett science :mad:

Want to hear a joke?
patriots in democratic party :thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fact. Of course when you are a liberal you ten to see things in the opposite from reality way. Like you act the most intolerant etc etc, you act the most racist (discriminating job/student applicants by race, Crooked Clinton campaign was picking people based on race quotas etc etc) but act like anti racist and so on and on.
You must simply lack objective and logical part of you brain to become a liberal.

The only money I donate to these current political parties in power is $3 a year on my tax returns -- that is all they are worth to me.

I did donate $5 to Jill Stein last year for her recount drama -- was entertaining but fruitless.

Unless you can funnel millions to the corrupt parties you will have no influence.

Except by attacking in the press, public opinion or as a last resort -- take to the streets.

Wait until older people's medicare gets cut.. That means old people getting kicked out of assisted housing, people in nursing homes ect..ect..

Start seeing stories of 80 year old Betty who worked 2 jobs to raise her kids as a single mom and now the govt cut her housing assistance...

People are starting to wake up to the fact Republicans are cutting funding to programs that effect them. Meanwhile Trump is wasting millions of tax dollars every weekend going to this resort or that.

Trump is Republicans worst nightmare, they are just too stupid to see it because they are too busy gloating about wining the election but ignorant to the fact they lost the majority.

Hey Crockette, You're delusional.

I realize that you are allergic to actual facts, so here's a question: How did those 4 special elections turn out recently?

And have you heard of James O'Keefe? The Russia story is totally fake news. Even all the top Democrats admitted this. Why can't you accept reality Crockette?

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It is a lot cheaper to prevent bad health than to attempt to cure the diseases bad health behavior creates. The problem is preventing disease and health problems from developing is much less profitable :2 cents:

I am not anti medical technology but much of it is just a money making machine for the healthcare industry.

What have the Democrats done for the working man so far? Besides, give him a job in a fast food restaurant and take away his job working in a factory.

I was with you until you started to say Health costs have risen the world over. And then TTP was the saviour of the US.

Both sides have fucked you. Do I have to remind you what the position was before Trump got into power? This isn't something that happened in the last few months, the rot has been going on for decades.

Whatever I tell you, you'll disagree, because you support Trump as a white nationalist so whatever I say it won't suffice for you.

Nevertheless....

32 million working class people became insured, that saved lives.

The jobless rate under Obama decreased after the market crash, giving working class jobs & income.

The stock market recovered under Obama helping the working class by creating jobs, improving the working man's 401K's Etc.


Again, you won't give credit where credit is due, and you'll forget 3 million more people voted for the Democrat, giving her the most votes of any candidate in history and you'll forget the Electoral College (538 elites) overturned the will of the people and annointed Trump POTUS.

I would just LOVE to hear your theory on how it was Democrats fault jobs were lost.. :1orglaugh

The simple fact is Reagan was the 1st US president to make major trade deals with China. Reagan started the outsourcing of our manufacturing jobs AND went to war with the unions. Republicans since Reagan have systematically destroyed Unions.

Added to this Republicans claim on one hand they are for the "working" man but their actions prove otherwise. Manufacturing went overseas because it became more profitable because of trade deals that "BOTH" parties created however Democrats never went to war with unions which were the backbone of the working class...

You really don't have a clue as to why manufacturing jobs went overseas. They went overseas not just because of labor costs but because our govt (which includes Republicans) made deals with countries like China for trade in exchange for the ability to borrow money to keep their ridiculous spending funded. Also Reagan was the 1st to steal money from Social Security and Republicans have been trying to call SS a "entitlement" ever since so they can just take "working people's" money and never pay it back..

The simple fucking fact is since Reagan it's only been Bill Clinton who managed to create a plan that would have balanced our deficit and then Bush jr came along and fucked it up by starting endless wars and giving tax cuts to the rich.. Republicans fuck the common man at every turn..

WRONG AGAIN.

Obamacare insured only around 3 million people. It was funded illegally. The whole thing was unconstitutional.

And you forget that the popular vote outcome was a result of massive voter fraud. Millions of fraudelent, non-eligible votes don't really count. Even if they did, so what? Fully 83% of US counties voted Trump. You think because Los Angeles and New York voted blue, that should overrule the rest of the country?

You're a damn FOOL BladeLiar.

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I disagree with the idea that Republicans will flock to the Democrats in the next election.

The Republicans considered the economy horrible as Obama left office, but wonderful now that Trump is President even though nothing has changed - the unemployment rate is pretty much the same.

At the same time I believe a lot of Republicans do not consider Trump to be one of their own.

Health insurance costs certainly have risen and I never said TTP was the saviour of the USA, just the cheapest option to control China, in fact that was the main argument against it downunder, it was just an American ploy to keep tabs on China when ever America wanted to.... blew that one didn't they, NZ and Aus have already doubled down on the trade deals with China, other Pacific nations are closely following. TTP was cancelled for Aus, even though the trade imbalance.. was in Americas favour, work that one out ;) MUST FEED THE MILITARY MACHINE

Wars started or entered into;
(since the founding of the Republican party)
Civil War R
Spanish American War R
WW1 D
WW2 D
Korean War D
Vietnam War D
Iraq 1 R
Afghanistan R
Iraq 2 R
WW3 ?

Notable accomplishments for the working man

End Slavery R
Sherman Antitrust Act R
Glass Steagall Act D 1933
Social Security Act D
Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938 D
Medicare D
Medicaide D
Consumer Protection Act 1968 D *
ACA (Obamacare) D

Anyone have a specific public law or act to add to the list?
Useless debatable rhetoric is not acceptable -- no parrots or non US persons allowed.

Hey Rochard- The stock market is up 4 Trillion dollars.

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I didn't say republicans, I said workers & patriots, the people the Republican party left behind in their rush to appease the crazies. People are starting to wake up to the fact the Republican party has lied to them over and over for years. Look how many people jumped "Republican" ship with the Tea Party.. Guys like Vendillza ran off to proclaim he was an independent despite having extreme right views.

The fact was even these hard core right wingers jumped the Republican ship because the Republican party wasn't "extreme" enough for them. As a result the Republican party chased after that extremism leaving the moderates with no party backing them. Those moderates who might still call themselves Republicans really aren't because their party doesn't speak for them. These are working class people and the military.

The moderates will now jump ship because anyone who is not a crazed lunatic can see the direction the Republican party has gone will end very badly. The moderates might still call themselves Republicans by name, but in their heart they know the Republican party has abandoned them.

I'll give you an example of what Democrats are doing that will cause this shift.. This is the Democratic challenger to Paul Ryan for his next election. A army vet/steal worker who speaks for the working man..

Randy Bryce Will Challenge Paul Ryan as a Democrat in Wisconsin's 1st District

Now think about this.. you are hard core American patriot and a working man.. Are you voting for some two faced political elite like Ryan who lied to you and is spineless or suck it up and vote for a Military vet who is a working man and wants to work for you. If you are a woman, are you voting for some guy who looks like a used car sales man and would steal candy from your baby or the guy who is taking care of his mother?

Now more than ever people will be searching for a 3rd option. The Dems are done for years until Pelosi and the other nutjobs are out. Republicans will trip over themselves and not get anything really accomplished. If a viable independent steps forward he/she might even take 2020.

Political parties have come and gone in the US but usually change has come over years with the new political party gaining seats in the House or Senate before gaining the presidency.

Countless *Independents* have just been spoilers to shift election results.

Results I can think of are Nixon and Clinton offhand.

His campaign launch commercial was good but he has black people in it, big no no this cycle TBH. He should have had all whites in first commercials to lure the alt-rights. Republicans are slanting whites friendly with blacks as far left liberals. Sad but true.

It's great that he's a 20 year steel worker with a wife that takes 20 pills a day for a seriously expensive medical issue (MS)

He doesn't want the alt-rights. He is speaking for the middle class/working people and the military.. The alt rights are a small minority who were handed a much bigger voice by way of the Republican party..

The republican party has alienated every major voting block in this country except the far extreme right. This will cost them in the long game, they pushed too far to the right chasing the crazies so now the the pendulum will swing back..

I keep telling my liberal friends this - some of whom are involved very highly in the Democratic party - but some of them refuse to listen. :error

If the 5 recent losses by their awful, boring candidates to just slightly less boring candidates isn't any indication, then... :Oh crap

I'm still waiting for you to show me what the Democratic Party has done for the working man? The stock exchange isn't the working class. the only jobs it creates is in fast food restaurants.

I will agree that the Heath Insurance is a mess and Trump needs to drop that.

It goes deeper than Presidents the rot is right through the political process. Dems and Reps have let down the US.

Health Insurance in America is a scam. you all know it and can't do anything about it because lobbyists dollars count more than votes.

There were parts of TTIP that were bad and gave American companies too much power in Europe. And did not go far enough in holding off the power of China.