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CurrentlySober 08-03-2017 12:11 PM

Quick question regarding the definition of 'Art'...
 
I know this is a bit different from my poo related vulgarities, but if any of you have an opinion on the following, I'd love to hear your input.

Art, in all of its forms, is indeed subjective. I understand that. However, if a piece of art (Be it a sculptor, a painting or whatever) is displayed, accompanied by an 'Explanation' of it - 'The reason for the yellow is that the artist wanted to represent... etc' then does it cease to truly be art?

In other words, if it needs to come with an explanation, then is it still art?

CaptainHowdy 08-03-2017 12:41 PM

Art is in the explanation (or rather justification) nowadays. Blame it on Marcel Duchamp.

http://easyscoopapoop.com/wp-content...mccarthy-2.png

CurrentlySober 08-03-2017 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 21931270)
Art is in the explanation (or rather justification) nowadays. Blame it on Marcel Duchamp.

http://easyscoopapoop.com/wp-content...mccarthy-2.png

Yes, while that is indeed an example of beautiful inspirational art, it still speaks for itself...

It doesn't need a note from the artist attached that reads 'This is a huge pile of shit...'

kane 08-03-2017 01:13 PM

I think it still qualifies as art. To me, it is no different than if you go see a movie, are a little confused by it then someone explains it to you.

bns666 08-03-2017 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 21931270)
Art is in the explanation (or rather justification) nowadays. Blame it on Marcel Duchamp.

http://easyscoopapoop.com/wp-content...mccarthy-2.png

:1orglaugh

ruff 08-03-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 21931246)
I know this is a bit different from my poo related vulgarities, but if any of you have an opinion on the following, I'd love to hear your input.

Art, in all of its forms, is indeed subjective. I understand that. However, if a piece of art (Be it a sculptor, a painting or whatever) is displayed, accompanied by an 'Explanation' of it - 'The reason for the yellow is that the artist wanted to represent... etc' then does it cease to truly be art?

In other words, if it needs to come with an explanation, then is it still art?

If someone calls something art, then it is art. Whatever anyone says otherwise is opinion.

pimpmaster9000 08-03-2017 01:52 PM

99% of all "art" is not art...it is just "art"...

bns666 08-03-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21931435)
If someone calls something art, then it is art. Whatever anyone says otherwise is opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21931444)
99% of all "art" is not art...it is just "art"...

correct :thumbsup

kane 08-03-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21931444)
99% of all "art" is not art...it is just "art"...

Who is to say what is art and what is "art"? Like many things in life, art is subjective. A friend of mine and I were looking at a Jackson Pollock and he said, "It's trash, I could do that." I replied, "It's brilliant, and no, you couldn't." I thought it was art, he thought it was garbage.

xxx6live 08-03-2017 04:30 PM

Art is something that makes you think, or rather forget about your daily problems. It makes you wonder, happy, angry, sad or any other feeling. The purpose is just to make your mind busy with different thoughts for a moment.

Bladewire 08-03-2017 04:44 PM



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pimpmaster9000 08-03-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21931498)
Who is to say what is art and what is "art"? Like many things in life, art is subjective. A friend of mine and I were looking at a Jackson Pollock and he said, "It's trash, I could do that." I replied, "It's brilliant, and no, you couldn't." I thought it was art, he thought it was garbage.


I have personally only witnessed true art once...a friend of mine who went to art college made a giant white canopy and took a knife and cut holes in it and it looked like Jesus crucified when he put a lamp behind it...the light kind of popped out to make the Jesus...

It was true art...it destroyed...compared to that 99% of artists are in fact "artists" I would call them painters...makers...but art is truly rare you can not mass produce it...

kane 08-03-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21931720)
I have personally only witnessed true art once...a friend of mine who went to art college made a giant white canopy and took a knife and cut holes in it and it looked like Jesus crucified when he put a lamp behind it...the light kind of popped out to make the Jesus...

It was true art...it destroyed...compared to that 99% of artists are in fact "artists" I would call them painters...makers...but art is truly rare you can not mass produce it...

I guess, this is what I was getting at. Just because you don't think something is true art, doesn't mean it isn't and vice versa.

Look Chang 08-03-2017 10:33 PM

I like vulvart...

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CurrentlySober 08-04-2017 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21931498)
Who is to say what is art and what is "art"? Like many things in life, art is subjective.

Agreed, however for the purposes of this thread, we know its 'art' because its part of an art exhibition. It is being presented to us as being art. I just feel that if it needs an explanation, it negates the possibility of it being considered art.

Art should need no explanation, nor apology... :2 cents:

CurrentlySober 08-04-2017 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21931720)
I have personally only witnessed true art once...a friend of mine who went to art college made a giant white canopy and took a knife and cut holes in it and it looked like Jesus crucified when he put a lamp behind it...the light kind of popped out to make the Jesus...

But did it have a little card next to it that said "The artist made a giant white canopy and took a knife and cut holes in it, so now it looks like Jesus crucified when he put a lamp behind it... as you can see, the light kind of pops out to make the Jesus..." ?

If it had, would that have not somewhat devalued the experience for you ?

CaptainHowdy 08-04-2017 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21931498)
Who is to say what is art and what is "art"?

That's the task of the curator.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dson-Venus.png


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