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celandina 09-22-2017 09:58 AM

Drop in traffic ?
 
Did anybody notice a drop in traffic in the last week or so? Another Google update? Or did Trump broke the Internet? :1orglaugh

I am down about 20 %....:Oh crap

nomyenx 09-23-2017 05:21 AM

I'm down 90% :upsidedow from mid xxxx organic.. But that's because I switched to https.. (I think..) but before that I actually saw that my organic went up (10/15%) 3/4 days ago a bit before i made the switch to see it dropped to almost nothing :1orglaugh

Smart Fred 09-23-2017 07:41 AM

You need to know which keywords results send you the traffic and on which you have lost some places. If you didn't change anything from two weeks and expericence a loss on all keywords, it's surely due to a Google update.

topadult 09-23-2017 08:26 AM

There was a Google update some days ago.
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ter-24500.html
Many sites got hit ...

menxzy 09-23-2017 08:53 AM

I lost traffic since last month and this weeks almost all my keywords gone.
Now the visitor coming from direct link and socmed

BigFurry 09-23-2017 09:03 AM

Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

celandina 09-23-2017 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topadult (Post 22011377)
There was a Google update some days ago.
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ter-24500.html
Many sites got hit ...

Can you put Google in jail ??:1orglaugh for breaking the Internets ??? Can you fix it ? Maybe I should go digging thru my old e mails :1orglaugh

Much thanks for the link and info :thumbsup

celandina 09-23-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22011439)
Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

If you find a winner please let me know :thumbsup maybe I'll ask Putin to fix it and if he says no,there is always Topadult :thumbsup

BettyBoob1 09-23-2017 01:16 PM

Yeah on the 17th of September there was on update I think. I have noticed significant drops in mid July, August and now this month.

The Fred update got me in March and I have slowly been cleaning things up and seeing organic traffic coming back.

I guess I need to work harder!

thommy 09-23-2017 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22011439)
Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

doesn´t look like there are winners.
what i can see is that even number one positions (what are still number one) have less traffic.

i assume that have nothing to do with any algo update but with googles new background solution of "I m not a robot".

trying to connect over some well known anonymous proxies let googles site look white.

celandina 09-24-2017 08:31 AM

Can you elaborate a bit on the G I am not a robot BG solution??
Thanks
C.

thommy 09-24-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22012357)
Can you elaborate a bit on the G I am not a robot BG solution??
Thanks
C.

well i can not 100% say if THIS is the case but here is what google changed in that:

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...-mouse-clicks/

that can cause that users using anonymous proxies will possbly wrong dedected.

another change i saw is in the safe search filter.

before you could switch this filter off even when you are not logged into any google solution. now you have to log in to switch it off.

and the most obvious for me is that google has obviously changed the results for some big (but unsharp) keys.

searching for phrases like "porn" or "xxx" brings a lot of results what have nothing to do with porn.

as the most international traffic is not coming from google itself but it is circling from site to site one single user with such a searchphrase would show up on 20 or 30 sites as a "user" - so imagine what happens when this fist one is not there anymore.

i assume that there are a few small circumstances falling together what are creating some kind of butterfly effect. if this effect was wanted or not will show the next few weeks. it would not be the first time that google made a change what had a huge effect in the 50th level of the chaos and they are changing back.

thommy 09-25-2017 03:15 AM

after a few days testing around i think i found the reason fro that drop in traffic.

as far as i see google made a change in their semantic. what means, that search keys what are not 100% recognizable as porn related will not show pornsites. also spelling errors (i.e. "rettube" or "pron") are seldom ending in porn results (exception is when domains are optimized on the spelling error).

for some reason this change does not effect all google DCs and domains.
i.e. it works already at google.de in german but not in google.ch and google.at in german (possibly because google makes a difference in the language definitions of german-de, german-at and german ch)

so i think you can see it hardly in your stats because the huge number of variations will not show such a key as top key but many of them as smaller keys.

celandina 09-25-2017 06:00 AM

Thanks Tommy it is obviously somewhat a mystery. I just hope it bounces back because I have no clue whom this "Google crap" helps. Its a fucking monopoly and the Gov. should break them up as as they did with Microsoft in 2000 , since they are breaching Sherman Act.

thommy 09-25-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22013249)
Thanks Tommy it is obviously somewhat a mystery. I just hope it bounces back because I have no clue whom this "Google crap" helps. Its a fucking monopoly and the Gov. should break them up as as they did with Microsoft in 2000 , since they are breaching Sherman Act.

i don´t think that google really wants that. the problem is that every fucking country in the world wants to rule them and they are using this "unwanted contact with porn from underaged person".

google is forced to show more non explicit results (if the search phrase is not 100% porn)
to defense that complaints.

the future will show how the users will deal with that and how fast they are learning to use exact search terms.

as most of the international market´s traffic is not coming from search engines directly revenge now the circumstance that many sites optimized on blurred search terms like "sex", "grannies", "analsex" or "blondes".

this trend is not a new one - i noticed it already 10 years ago and it was just a question of time til it will hit harder (what is obviously now the case)

NickBaer 09-25-2017 12:12 PM

Maybe the millions in PR, Florida, Mexico wthout electricity, without homes?

thommy 09-25-2017 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22013779)
Maybe the millions in PR, Florida, Mexico wthout electricity, without homes?

nope - the drop is worldwide

celandina 09-26-2017 10:02 AM

After 10 days ( with NO changes on our side) most of the traffic came back, if not all, at least 15 % of the 25 % drop. I will keep you posted if it keeps up.:thumbsup

Plot thickens..?!

NickBaer 09-26-2017 01:44 PM

What is your % of Bot traffic?

thommy 09-26-2017 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22015041)
After 10 days ( with NO changes on our side) most of the traffic came back, if not all, at least 15 % of the 25 % drop. I will keep you posted if it keeps up.:thumbsup

Plot thickens..?!

you mean in general or especially traffic from google ?

celandina 09-27-2017 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22015393)
you mean in general or especially traffic from google ?

About 1/2 of the loss is direct and another 1/2 is referral traffic, have no clue if any of it it boots also have no clue where to find it in my GA :(

celandina 09-27-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22015321)
What is your % of Bot traffic?


See my post above I have no clue how to tell what is boot and what is real :(

NickBaer 09-27-2017 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22016203)
See my post above I have no clue how to tell what is boot and what is real :(

Here's a little PHP I have in my footer or copyright statement:

$date=date("YmdHis");
$Users_IP_address = $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"];
$ref = $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'];
$qry = $_SERVER['QUERY_STRING'];
$ThisPage=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
$usr = $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']

$FWwritethis = $date.', '. $ThisPage.', '.$Users_IP_address.', '.$ref.', '.$qry.'^ '.$usr.PHP_EOL;
$fp = fopen('myfilename.txt', 'a');
fwrite($fp, $FWwritethis.PHP_EOL);
fclose($fp);



The $_SERVER[...] built-in feature is really great!

You can then "read" myfilename.txt from a webpage link you create, or your "files" or FTP directory. I create a new file when it reaches a pre-determined filesize. It is just text.

Most bots or spiders or crawlers, put their name in the $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']. Some put where to get more info about the bot.

You can then add IPs to your .htaccess.

Deny from 5.9.85.245

Because I could read that it is a bot: 20170908000805, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 5.9.85.245, , id=848^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; BLEXBot/1.0; +BLEXBot) |


Snippet from that log file:

20170901005526, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=277^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901005527, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.152, , id=7^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901005527, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.152, , id=7^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901011016, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 77.75.78.165, , id=541^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; SeznamBot/3.2; +Seznam.cz web search | Seznam Nápov?da) |
20170901011016, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 77.75.78.165, , id=541^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; SeznamBot/3.2; +Seznam.cz web search | Seznam Nápov?da) |
20170901011053, /index.php, 144.217.240.34, , ^ Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 |
20170901011055, /index.php, 144.217.240.34, http://gay-dvds-for-women-and-men.com/, ^ Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 |
20170901011302, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=489^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901011302, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=489^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901012019, /titlesbyone.php, 157.55.39.152, , FindStar=Bruce^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901012019, /titlesbyone.php, 157.55.39.152, , FindStar=Bruce^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901013412, /indexAL.php/DVD-Detail-TD.php, 180.76.15.159, , id=1263^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901014839, /indexAL.php/DVD-Detail-TD.php, 180.76.15.163, , id=589^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901015022, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.37, , id=1213^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901015022, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.37, , id=1213^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901015522, /titlesbyone.php, 180.76.15.161, , FindStar=Ian^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901015522, /titlesbyone.php, 180.76.15.161, , FindStar=Ian^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901020312, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=1000^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901020312, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=1000^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |

NickBaer 09-27-2017 01:49 PM

I've got sites with 90% Bots.

celandina 09-28-2017 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22016601)
I've got sites with 90% Bots.

I run the business. Everything else is done " ad hoc" externally, so your little PHP may as well be Mount Everest for me to climb:2 cents::1orglaugh

topadult 09-28-2017 07:46 AM

Hold your breath :-S
The update is not done yet :|
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ing-24532.html

NickBaer 09-28-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22017363)
I run the business. Everything else is done " ad hoc" externally, so your little PHP may as well be Mount Everest for me to climb:2 cents::1orglaugh

What's your percent of BOT traffic? You might be deluding yourself as to "traffic".

celandina 09-29-2017 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22017743)
What's your percent of BOT traffic? You might be deluding yourself as to "traffic".

As I said yesterday, I do NOT have a clue and do not know where in my GA I can find it....:(, but my traffic is down again....:error

celandina 09-29-2017 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topadult (Post 22017397)
Hold your breath :-S
The update is not done yet :|
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ing-24532.html


Thanks again and holy crap, fucking Google :mad:.....I am sure you are on top of it :thumbsup

.... Am off now to the casino, once I win, we will talk again :)

celandina 10-01-2017 08:35 AM

Coming back but slowly :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 10-02-2017 12:26 AM

If that is true -- much of SEO rumors is total horseshit -- I am blocking many server farms from one of my major affiliate sites just to keep the parasites out.

If Google is using what I consider a *parasite host server data center* then they are getting a 403. If googlebot comes from its legitimate IPs using its proper user-agent sig -- then it has access and sees the exact same thing a human would.

Come in like a thief in the night -- I shoot first and ask questions later :2 cents:

NickBaer 10-06-2017 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22018555)
As I said yesterday, I do NOT have a clue and do not know where in my GA I can find it....:(, but my traffic is down again....:error

Have you thought of asking your Hosting company representative?

You may learn that up to 90% of your "traffic" is BOTs. Or, you may not want to find that out, i.e. Delusional.

celandina 10-07-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22027801)
Have you thought of asking your Hosting company representative?

You may learn that up to 90% of your "traffic" is BOTs. Or, you may not want to find that out, i.e. Delusional.

My conversion is about 1% and that has not changed , so if 90 % are bots then they are great in buying our streams :thumbsup

...i have also asked where ( maybe if) I can determine it from my GA.


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