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brassmonkey 02-14-2018 01:23 PM

Breaking: Florida high school shooting
 
Police in Broward County responded to reports of an active shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High school in Parkland, Fla., on Wednesday. According to local news reports, at least 20 people were injured. Police say the shooter is still at large. click here for the latest updates.

Rochard 02-14-2018 01:32 PM

FUCK THIS.

I'm tired of kids having to live in fear because we allow everyone and their mother to own firearms. Right now I'm watching live TV and I'm seeing hundreds of kids running from a school with their hands up in the air. Kids should NEVER have to go through this.

One time I was at my kid's school picking her up and she was walking through a grassy field when shots rang out. Ten seconds later the school went on lock down. Nothing puts the fear of god in you like your child being caught out in the open when an active shooter is firing off rounds. (Turns out it was a police shooting a block away from the school.)

When is our government going to do something about this?

"It's too soon to talk about gun control".

2MuchMark 02-14-2018 01:40 PM

Some ass-clown from the NRA will be give a speech telling people to buy more guns, and to arm teachers, in 5, 4, 3, 2....

GFY Nutters will hit this thread screaming 2nd Amendment rights bullshit, in 3...2...1.... Fuck you in advance.

starling 02-14-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204337)
FUCK THIS.

I'm tired of kids having to live in fear because we allow everyone and their mother to own firearms. Right now I'm watching live TV and I'm seeing hundreds of kids running from a school with their hands up in the air. Kids should NEVER have to go through this.

One time I was at my kid's school picking her up and she was walking through a grassy field when shots rang out. Ten seconds later the school went on lock down. Nothing puts the fear of god in you like your child being caught out in the open when an active shooter is firing off rounds. (Turns out it was a police shooting a block away from the school.)

When is our government going to do something about this?

"It's too soon to talk about gun control".

Move elsewhere then

Rochard 02-14-2018 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22204347)
Some ass-clown from the NRA will be give a speech telling people to buy more guns, and to arm teachers, in 5, 4, 3, 2....

GFY Nutters will hit this thread screaming 2nd Amendment rights bullshit, in 3...2...1.... Fuck you in advance.

A friend of mine is a police officer and just about to retire. The police department offered him a five year contract to be a "school resource officer" - which means he does nothing but hangs out at a high school all day in uniform hoping nothing happens.

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204337)
FUCK THIS.

I'm tired of kids having to live in fear because we allow everyone and their mother to own firearms. Right now I'm watching live TV and I'm seeing hundreds of kids running from a school with their hands up in the air. Kids should NEVER have to go through this.

One time I was at my kid's school picking her up and she was walking through a grassy field when shots rang out. Ten seconds later the school went on lock down. Nothing puts the fear of god in you like your child being caught out in the open when an active shooter is firing off rounds. (Turns out it was a police shooting a block away from the school.)

When is our government going to do something about this?

"It's too soon to talk about gun control".


Just treat it like terrorism; we can profile the school shooters by race and religion and
prevent them from owning guns.

:winkwink:

:1orglaugh

crockett 02-14-2018 02:57 PM

Maybe we should start shooting NRA lobbyist... now there is a idea...

brassmonkey 02-14-2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204421)
Maybe we should start shooting NRA lobbyist... now there is a idea...

yeah sure start blame guns because someone has family issues.

Rochard 02-14-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22204417)
Just treat it like terrorism; we can profile the school shooters by race and religion and
prevent them from owning guns.

:winkwink:

:1orglaugh

Sure, that will go over great. The man in Vegas who killed fifty was white, so let's start profiling white people and denying them firearms.

crockett 02-14-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22204439)
yeah sure start blame guns because someone has family issues.

I blame the easy access to high capacity weapons.. for that reason it is the NRA who is to blame because they lobby on behalf of the gun and ammo manufacturers who sell these weapons..


The NRA used to be a gun safety organization but now they are just a lobbyist for the gun manufacturers.

If these nutters couldn't get their hands on guns with 30 round clips or high capacity pistols the nutters wouldn't be killing 14 people and wounding countless others.. in a single shooting..

pimpmaster9000 02-14-2018 03:18 PM

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it would be funny if it was not sad...

brassmonkey 02-14-2018 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204457)
I blame the easy access to high capacity weapons.. for that reason it is the NRA who is to blame because they lobby on behalf of the gun and ammo manufacturers who sell these weapons..


The NRA used to be a gun safety organization but now they are just a lobbyist for the gun manufacturers.

If these nutters couldn't get their hands on guns with 30 round clips or high capacity pistols the nutters wouldn't be killing 14 people and wounding countless others.. in a single shooting..

people have access to cars and? they are used in mass killings. you know the reason why they dont ban those right? really banning any firearm is a violation of the constitution. that is not enough to piss people off. i wonder what will be the breaking point...

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204421)
Maybe we should start shooting NRA lobbyist... now there is a idea...

Maybe you should live in a nice house in a rural area and dial 911 one time.
I bet you change your mind as soon as someone knocks on the door at midnight.


:helpme

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204455)
Sure, that will go over great. The man in Vegas who killed fifty was white, so let's start profiling white people and denying them firearms.

Don't you want to fix the problem?

Well what do you think gun control is going to do; just take guns from Brown people?

:1orglaugh

astronaut x 02-14-2018 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starling (Post 22204353)
Move elsewhere then

This is our country bitch. This country doesn't belong to NRA. They have stolen it.

kane 02-14-2018 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204413)
A friend of mine is a police officer and just about to retire. The police department offered him a five year contract to be a "school resource officer" - which means he does nothing but hangs out at a high school all day in uniform hoping nothing happens.

All of the high schools in my area have school resource officers. I have mixed feelings about them. They add extra security (as you say, security that, in a perfect world, shouldn't be needed) but it also makes a lot of the kids feel like they are constantly under the eye of the law. It's sad that we live in a time where kids needs to be under armed protection just to go to school.

crockett 02-14-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22204473)
Maybe you should live in a nice house in a rural area and dial 911 one time.
I bet you change your mind as soon as someone knocks on the door at midnight.


:helpme

You don't need a aka47 or a m16 to defend your farm.. a shot gun is better in every aspect for home protection, not to mention dealing with wild animals.. you won't accidentally shoot your kids or wife in the other room with a shot gun...

Acepimp 02-14-2018 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204337)
FUCK THIS.

When is our government going to do something about this?

"It's too soon to talk about gun control".

Hey Rochard:

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are we not understanding?

The millions of responsible gun owners didn't so anything wrong. Please take your communist ideals and kindly relocate to Venezuela.

:2 cents:

brassmonkey 02-14-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22204501)
Hey Rochard:

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are we not understanding?

The millions of responsible gun owners didn't so anything wrong. Please take your communist ideals and kindly relocate to Venezuela.

:2 cents:

this is what im talking about. the government has already violated the agreement and the supreme court knows it and allows it! i wonder what issues will break the camels back.

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22204489)
All of the high schools in my area have school resource officers. I have mixed feelings about them. They add extra security (as you say, security that, in a perfect world, shouldn't be needed) but it also makes a lot of the kids feel like they are constantly under the eye of the law. It's sad that we live in a time where kids needs to be under armed protection just to go to school.

Resource officers are bullshit; they assault more students than they protect and they
need to watch the teachers who are fucking the students instead of looking at students.

Just profile the shooters, they are all the same :

https://www.google.com/search?q=scho...B9lX OFsrBuM:



We can do profiling at airports, in traffic, walking down street, shopping malls, so why not at the school where all the children are getting murdered?

We can profile a guy for selling weed but not for murdering school kids??
Why is that I wonder?

:winkwink:


Disclaimer : I enjoy acting like a Republican when the criminals are Republicans. :1orglaugh

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204493)
You don't need a aka47 or a m16 to defend your farm.. a shot gun is better in every aspect for home protection, not to mention dealing with wild animals.. you won't accidentally shoot your kids or wife in the other room with a shot gun...

You don't need an AK or M16 to shoot up a classroom either.

:helpme


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...h-shooting.jpg

crockett 02-14-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22204471)
people have access to cars and? they are used in mass killings. you know the reason why they dont ban those right? really banning any firearm is a violation of the constitution. that is not enough to piss people off. i wonder what will be the breaking point...

When was the last time a car was used to mow down kids in class?

onwebcam 02-14-2018 04:07 PM

Another ISIS wannabe camel jockey. Apparently he was such a deranged individual he wasn't even allowed to carry a backpack to school last year.

astronaut x 02-14-2018 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22204439)
yeah sure start blame guns because someone has family issues.

Guns ARE the fucking problem. Too fucking many of them.

Too cheap, background checks are a fucking joke.

Here is something for you....

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency

brassmonkey 02-14-2018 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204493)
You don't need a aka47 or a m16 to defend your farm.. a shot gun is better in every aspect for home protection, not to mention dealing with wild animals.. you won't accidentally shoot your kids or wife in the other room with a shot gun...

and you don't need to know what type of firearm that farm has. :2 cents::2 cents: i dont give a fuck if i own 10 it's none of your or big brothers biz. they are registered and stored safely. which is close to 95% of america i don't know the real percentage lol

brassmonkey 02-14-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22204533)
Guns ARE the fucking problem. Too fucking many of them.

Too cheap, background checks are a fucking joke.

Here is something for you....

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency

what??? :1orglaugh that is a russia and trump issue. the guys shooting are clean. if they have cash they just buy privately

kane 02-14-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22204513)
Resource officers are bullshit; they assault more students than they protect and they
need to watch the teachers who are fucking the students instead of looking at students.

Just profile the shooters, they are all the same :

https://www.google.com/search?q=scho...B9lX OFsrBuM:



We can do profiling at airports, in traffic, walking down street, shopping malls, so why not at the school where all the children are getting murdered?

We can profile a guy for selling weed but not for murdering school kids??
Why is that I wonder?

:winkwink:


Disclaimer : I enjoy acting like a Republican when the criminals are Republicans. :1orglaugh

I've said for a long time that we don't have a gun problem in this country, we have a mental health problem. Solving that is not going to be easy.

EonBlue 02-14-2018 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22204539)
I've said for a long time that we don't have a gun problem in this country, we have a mental health problem. Solving that is not going to be easy.

^^^ This 100%.

But people don't get to play the political blame game with that, so.....



.

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22204533)
Guns ARE the fucking problem. Too fucking many of them.

Too cheap, background checks are a fucking joke.

Here is something for you....

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency

You're kidding yourself; when there are no guns the perpetrator will pour gasoline on the
classroom doors and light it with the kids inside or build a pipe bomb.

The killer will just find a different tool.

:2 cents:

BaldBastard 02-14-2018 04:21 PM

"My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families"

It's as cold as the shooting itself really, but yeah... Amerika.

beerptrol 02-14-2018 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22204531)
Another ISIS wannabe camel jockey. Apparently he was such a deranged individual he wasn't even allowed to carry a backpack to school last year.

says the guy who isn't allowed to carry pointed scissors

nico-t 02-14-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204529)
When was the last time a car was used to mow down kids in class?

You're right, cars and trucks are never used to kill innocent adults and children. Except for almost every one of the dozens of ISIS terror attacks in the western world over the last few years.

Jesus christ. Are you really this dense or is it all just some elaborate act?

Acepimp 02-14-2018 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22204533)
Guns ARE the fucking problem. Too fucking many of them.

Too cheap, background checks are a fucking joke.

Here is something for you....

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency

^^^ WRONG! That's like saying that because there are DUI fatalities, all cars should be banned. OK- sell your car and buy a bus pass, because someone else was drinking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Also, Russia Russia Russia! LoLoLoLoLoLoLoL!!!

FBI Loses ALL Credibility=> Is Now Investigating Whether Russians Gave Money to NRA to Help Trump

:pimp

Rochard 02-14-2018 04:37 PM

Sixteen dead.

More Winning.

Rochard 02-14-2018 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204457)
The NRA used to be a gun safety organization but now they are just a lobbyist for the gun manufacturers.

I remember the NRA from when I was a kid. They held safety classes, and sold us shooting gloves and shooting glasses. Now they are pushing assault rifles.

Kafka 02-14-2018 04:46 PM

Why is it legal to have guns? Who is the enemy? So fucking stupid.

Rochard 02-14-2018 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22204493)
You don't need a aka47 or a m16 to defend your farm.. a shot gun is better in every aspect for home protection, not to mention dealing with wild animals.. you won't accidentally shoot your kids or wife in the other room with a shot gun...

A friend of mine got a handgun recently and I asked him why. He told me he needed it for protection. He was worried about someone breaking into the house. I laughed at him. For home protection you do not need a handgun, you need a shot gun. Hard to miss someone at short range in your house with a shotgun.

Rochard 02-14-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22204565)
You're right, cars and trucks are never used to kill innocent adults and children. Except for almost every one of the dozens of ISIS terror attacks in the western world over the last few years.

Jesus christ. Are you really this dense or is it all just some elaborate act?

You cannot be remotely serious. What does a terrorist group in Iraq and Syria have to do with a kid killing a dozen students in Florida? Nothing.

We don't ban cars because we need cars on a daily basis. Everything you eat or use is transported by an automobile or truck. At the same time, it's ten times more difficult to get a driver's license than it is to buy a firearm.

onwebcam 02-14-2018 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafka (Post 22204579)
Why is it legal to have guns? Who is the enemy? So fucking stupid.

The religion of peace?

beerptrol 02-14-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22204595)
The religion of peace?

mentally unstable people like yourself

adultchatpay 02-14-2018 05:06 PM

this is so horrific, these kids are firing up semi auto riffles like in the video games

astronaut x 02-14-2018 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22204537)
what??? :1orglaugh that is a russia and trump issue. the guys shooting are clean. if they have cash they just buy privately

You think that's funny Irwin?

The fucking NRA is a stain on this country.

How in the fuck is that a russia trump issue only?

They buy privately because there a surplus of fucking guns to buy privately.

You guys can argue all you want and nitpick all of your conversations, but, the truth is, there are too many fucking guns.

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafka (Post 22204579)
Why is it legal to have guns? Who is the enemy? So fucking stupid.

Here's a short list :

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...g+home+invader


:helpme

Rochard 02-14-2018 05:14 PM

Turns out the kid was armed with an AR-15.

crockett 02-14-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22204535)
and you don't need to know what type of firearm that farm has. :2 cents::2 cents: i dont give a fuck if i own 10 it's none of your or big brothers biz. they are registered and stored safely. which is close to 95% of america i don't know the real percentage lol

Yes, yes every gun owner thinks they are the one who knows what he's doing and has his shit secured.. right up till he shoots himself cleaning it or his kid kills his classmates... They are all responsible gun owners they claim...

Will never happen to them...

Question for you.. if all your guns are locked up and secured.. how you supposed to shoot that bogeyman intruder???

astronaut x 02-14-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22204567)
^^^ WRONG! That's like saying that because there are DUI fatalities, all cars should be banned. OK- sell your car and buy a bus pass, because someone else was drinking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Also, Russia Russia Russia! LoLoLoLoLoLoLoL!!!

FBI Loses ALL Credibility=> Is Now Investigating Whether Russians Gave Money to NRA to Help Trump

:pimp

You can go fuck yourself. Arguing with you pro-gun whackos is like beating a dead fucking horse.

You have the same tired old arguments about cars, and knives, and this and fucking that. Ive heard it all.

When is the last time you heard of anyone drunk or sober driving a car through a school to purposely kill people? Never.

The fact that you can't wrap your head around this systemic issue, is the same reason you shouldn't be allowed to own a fucking gun.

blackmonsters 02-14-2018 05:24 PM

Here's a good video for you naive fuckers.

Watch the whole god dammed video then tell me why he didn't need a gun :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT1JjwuAxmQ

astronaut x 02-14-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22204585)
A friend of mine got a handgun recently and I asked him why. He told me he needed it for protection. He was worried about someone breaking into the house. I laughed at him. For home protection you do not need a handgun, you need a shot gun. Hard to miss someone at short range in your house with a shotgun.

Even then, you still have an extreme disadvantage. The intruder has the element of surprise. Unless you are one of those people that have a shotgun loaded and in your hand, the chances of you getting to your gun cabinet and loading it, or even making it to the place you keep your loaded gun, are pretty small. I'll bet more people survive a home invasion because the intruder has them secured compared to those who try to go for a weapon. Not saying that a reason to not a own a gun. I'm just saying, the "protection" reason is full of holes.

Kafka 02-14-2018 05:34 PM

Why are there so many home invaders in the US? Maybe you should solve that first (not by a shotgun).

astronaut x 02-14-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22204629)
Here's a good video for you naive fuckers.

Watch the whole god dammed video then tell me why he didn't need a gun :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT1JjwuAxmQ

How do you get into a situation where you have someone with a machete breaking down your door? What are you involved in? Looks like to me, a better fucking door would have come in handy.


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