Question for the Anti Trumpers
 

Just curious with Trump being president how has his presidency affected YOU personally?

Rent increase, 35% gas price increase, cost of food increase, 25% tarriffs on most everything imported, 30% health insurance price increase, companies closing because of tarriffs, layoffs because of tarriffs, feds have raised the cost of credit 6 times in the last 18 months due to skyrocketing inflation, etc.

Gas has gone through the roof. This has had a MASSIVE impact on me.

I just went to buy a new fridge, the first time in my life. All of the houses I have ever bought were brand new and came with a fridge, etc.... Ours is now fifteen years old and it's dying slowly so time to buy a new one... I went to Home Depot and I had sticker shock. They told me two months ago everything was $300 less.

My healthcare has also gone up.

Local/State property taxes.

You can thank Jerry Brown for the gas tax increase

Directly related to the cost of gas. See above

ObamaCare

Trump has nothing to do with the Fed's interest rate hikes.

Bladelier or his cronies will call me all sorts of names in......

Healthcare has gone up. My black friends and family have been traumatized with the resurgence of racism. My Hispanic friends have been publicly ridiculed. I love these people and it hurts me to see them be socially ostracized. Gas is higher. My grocery bill has gone up over $50 a week. My electricity, and water have both gone up. Wages are not.

No tax break? You probably don't have a "real" business ... it's probably more like a hobby :2 cents:

But hey, you got that $6 a month tax cut hu?

Rent increase: Supply and demand home prices are getting out of control which means more people renting and less home buying rent prices increase for a while to home prices come back down.

Food Increase: On food prices for me anyways from moving from Tampa to Las Vegas food is actually cheaper here. We did a price comparison bought same exact items from our last shopping bill from Florida was $27 cheaper. Will have to watch the prices to see if the do go up.

Tariffs: Hard to say how much those tariffs effect us personally so really hard to gauge.


Inflation: That's a tough one to argue if you wanna borrow money or buy a house. But i do see the global banks are following the feds leads and raising interest rates. Sadly they are talking about inflation lasting for a good bit here. that will affect us all but you could argue last 3 administrations are responsible for this.

He is trying to destroy Obamacare. This is going to cause the cost of my health insurance to go up even more than it otherwise would have (information came out recently that rates will skyrocket next year due to some of what Trump has been doing to undermine it). I have a preexisting condition. If Trump has his way and Obamacare collapses, I won't be able to buy health insurance any more.

My fuel prices before Trump started going on a rampage was sometimes as low as $1.99/gal . It's now in the $2.60-70 range.. That is $0.60-.70 cents a gallon that I wasn't paying before Trump started fucking shit up..

Now on the flip side, I will give credit, that I now save money on taxes via my LLC, but I also know many guys who got royally fucked by the tax cuts because they lost their ability to claim perdiem on their taxes. Many of these guys supported Trump and are probably too dumb to realize they got fucked, but come tax time they will realize real fast..

Anyway.. I was fair, and I gave both good and bad example of how Trump has affected my business..


I will mention a upcoming issue that hasn't really hit hard yet but it's coming. How it will affect me I'm not sure yet. I haul refrigerated products and many of our customers, think Tyson, Cargill ect..ect have had to do drastic production cuts due to Trump's trade war.

This means less product is getting hauled. Now due to the industry already being over booked as it is we can likely find lots of loads to make up for the meat loads, however in refrigerated, meat to the east coast from the mid west is very good paying..



Also as Kane mentioned, I still can't get affordable heath insurance.. Remember Trump was gonna fix that...

Um, no.

Obama DROPPED the fed rate 12 times in his 8 years and raised rates 1 time... in 8 years. You don't blame Obama for Trumps inflation & Trump's tarriff war :1orglaugh

Just moving to Las Vegas i went paying 2.44 a gallon to 3.17 a gallon still do not know why such a big difference. I did see opec in June agreed to increase production by 1 million barrels a day. Oil prices have come down but gas prices have gone up go figure..


Funny you mention a fridge just walked into Samsclub this weekend same Fridge we bought was almost $400 cheaper here which does not make any sense either.

My wife transferred her job from Florida to Las Vegas same health issuance policy same company $144 a month cheaper for what ever reason another go figure.

Switching are car insurance from Florida to Nevada insurance fringing doubled from $225 a month for 2 cars to $447 another wtf moment

You realize he is serbian, right?

Well i give you props on being civil and yes you did give good examples which is what i asked for. I will say this now and i will say this again healthcare and immigration will never be fixed. Those folks in Washington left or right do not give a flying fuck about either of those 2 issues as long as they are profiting from it.

Fun fact.. in Croatia, price of gasoline is around 1.8$ per LITER (that is around 6.66$ per gallon), and sorta kinda all of europe is similar to that

With lower interest rates money is cheaper to borrow which means people buy more and the whole supply and demand makes prices shoot up. You need higher interest rates to control supply and demand and inflation. :2 cents:

Ah i am truly sorry to hear that man i really am. This is one of those issues i hear about daily from my wife. Now keep i mind most people who are dealing with pre existing conditions was do to actions of there own but there are people like yourself who are caught up in this mess. But the insurance company are in for a profit and i do not see any way for the government to step in besides taxing everybody to holly hell.

yeah that's just pure crazy :2 cents:

To me, we will eventually end up with some kind of universal heathcare like they have in Canada, Europe etc.

Costs were going up fast pre-Obamcare then they went up faster with it (because we were suddenly using insurance to pay for uninsured instead of tax dollars etc like before) and now it is going to go up even faster as they chip away at it. At some point we are going to hit a breaking point and something will have to happen.

As i posted our healthcare has gone down and our food cost so go figure. Though i have not been publicly ridiculed but i have been called online racist and so many other things that are not true because i support trump policy's. People get so wrapped up in there own lives they forget there is a whole country out there. Hell this thread is a good example how different things are for others. For me things are going good and for others things are not going so great.

I am totally game for universal healthcare but as long as it does not affect my income or heathcare cost in any way. I know it sounds selfish but just being honest.

It personally bothers me that we have a low IQ person as our leader. I know it is petty. I just hate it. The fact that he knows so little and does not care feels personal. Add in that he is a complete ass with weird non-smiles and weird handshakes.

Otherwise he gave me a huge tax break. He would be doing good stuff with China if he had a plan or a clue. I think he really wants to do something, he just has such a little clue as to how everything works. And seems completely unable to get good advice. I think his being a huge ass all the time adds to that. No one wants to help him.

Fuck totally, forgot the racism stuff. It gets old having a flagrant racist as president. I have people I love who are of color.

Huh.. so that's why every Western nation on Earth , but America, has affordable and/or free public healthcare with meds 90% less than what we pay. Got it

I lived in Australia for 5 years and the quality of living, and cheap high quality healthcare there, really opened my eyes to how we're being fucked in America.

Obama almost got us out of the healthcare trap and Republicans pull us right the fuck back in.

Its good you are doing great. Honestly. I think though there is a lot of deserving people out there that do work hard, and also deserve to have things going good.

There were a couple of good escort agencies sending fresh South American bombshells to the New York area via Miami. These girls were early 20's, fit Brazilian, Venezuelan and Colombian girls...many of them could barely speak English. I can't describe the joy of walking out of a hotel shower to have waiting on the bed in lingerie a 21-year-old, Spanish speaking Latina with the face of Selena Gomez and the body of Rachel Starr (sometimes even better than I could describe with words). And she's there to make you cum as many times as possible in an hour. Did I mention she doesn't speak the same language? Do you know how hot that is?

Trump put a stop to that feeling, which I can no longer experience.

I spent about a year over in NZ. I didn't have any major health issues but when i got sick, i got seen right away, and the drugs were cheap. Never paid more than $15 NZ for meds.

Damn... :1orglaugh:(:(

It's kind of funny that you think he will grasp the concept. Trump is pissed that every time he makes improvements, the Fed raises interest rates to balance things.

Even if he did understand, he would never admit it.

Not sure how old you are, but it won't happen in my lifetime.

Sorry if your rates went up because I am not being forced to buy something I don't want, but I don't want to be forced to buy something I will not use.

I can only imagine what he looks like now after running his liver to the ground almost daily. No wonder he's such a hateful person. Sad

honestly, there is no real way to make healthcare affordable or free, it is a trap on it's own

lemme explain how it is in my country and everywhere where it is free (probably better in super rich countries like Norway and such, but no one can compete with that):

PROS
- it is "FREE"

CONS
- you get an added tax or expense for it, automatically deducted from your salary / profit / whatever, which means it isn't really free (example being, I pay around 100$ / month)
- it is pretty low quality in most places (like, 1 new hospital - good, 9 old ones - crap)
- WAITING PERIODS ARE INSANE (example, to get a "free" MRI of my back I was supposed to wait for 12 full months, so I simply popped 300$ to get it in a privately owned clinic)
- surgery waiting periods are so big to the point that for most stuff, you'd want to stick a knife and do it yourself if you can't afford private clinic
- once again, waiting periods are insane - I can't even stress it how big, to the point where people would be dying if they would actually be waiting for free healthcare schedule
- constant problem with rare diseases (those rare ones with a handful of patients that need very very expensive monthly therapy that costs $$$$), healthcare is always too broke to have a steady supply of their stuff too
- I have all dental stuff covered in my free healthcare but I haven't visited a "free" dentist in probably 15 years or so, I do all my shit in private dental clinics
- list goes on... and on........

Well it all depends on who you are I suppose.

Its going great for some people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45137752

Not so good for others.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...-trial-n886141

Overall I know he could not lift a finger for the entire 8 years he will be president and still do better things for the USA than Obama. #fact #stillyourpresidentlol

It bothers me deeply that our country is being represented by an ignorant, racist buffoon with child-like impulses. That should bother all of you.

This coming from a buffoon who supports illegal escort prostitution.
The girls are most likely underage from a international sex trafficking ring :2 cents:

Not understanding her saying "stop, stop, Get off of me, you're raping me".
That's what you consider hot ? :2 cents:

that show again how few you know about economy.

but look to turkey - dictator erdogan is actually doing it the way trump would like to do it.

maybe good for trump because now he learns that he should take professional advice on economic issues because this specialist didn't study it for years just for fun.

trump is a real estate salesman and only knows how to rip off people.
this knowledge will not help him in a global economy and it will not help him to tread his own people equal. he fucks you up and you say thanks to it.
and that´s why he loves the low educated people so much because you will wake up when he is already laughing about you and the other morons who have voted for him.

the only thing what will finally be great again is the trump empire.

but let´s discuss that after this years end or in 2019.
because it will hit than - no matter if trump is still the president or not.

but he's smart enough to know when he's going in to stage someone else's performance and he also knows when to get out to pass on the crap he's tapped into to someone else.

the bill ALWAYS have to be paid at the end.
and this bill is HUGE !

He's disrupted my sleep. I'm seriously worried about what he has done to our favourite neighbours to the south, and the effects of his actions around the world. People were making great progress up until 2016 and now things seem to be going backwards. All jokes aside, this is a seriously fucked-up situation.

Sure...5'10, 130 pound girls who look like supermodels and know how to fuck like a pornstar are underage. Do you know the difference between a girl and a woman?

Sorry man if you let a 70+ man keep you up at night that's on you not him. You should never let any person consume your mind so much were it disrupts your sleep. Do yourself a favor cut back on the news i did man and i feel hell of a lot better. No more going to bed mad, cutting back on posting and most of my stress has vanished :thumbsup

And what was the difference under Obama? Your issue with him was what? The economy rocked and I made tons of money under Obama. I am doing good under Trump. I don’t see much difference.

Obama had the longest expansion in US history without much inflation. Sort of tepid numbers though is the knock.

Tariffs will create inflation. Rising costs without growth. It is probably time we see rising rates.

its always easy to look in the past but to look in the future is much harder.

obama had the problem that he got in office in one of the biggest economy crisis worldwide.
no country in the world went faster through that as the US under obama.
not ALL what he did was right and the worst but inevitable problem is that he had to do it all with borrowed money.

every toddler knows that you have to pay back debts at some point and actually now would be the time to do that. instead, the economy artificially continues to heat up with even more debts, which are to be repaid from now less tax revenues. who believes that this is going well is either completely stupid or completely blind.

that dow and nasdaq have still not collapsed is due to the fact that companies are using their tax savings to buy back their own shares - the so-called flourishing economy has nothing to do with this because it has not been flourishing as expected for months now but is stagnating.

the tax reduction briefly triggered increased demand. this increased demand plus the tariffs introduced by trump resulted in higher prices.

higher prices = inflation. higher inflation can only be fought with higher interest rates (which trump doubts as much as erdogan and erdo will have to declare his country bankrupt in the next few weeks).

higher interest rates would trigger higher demand for the dollar and with it the dollar would rise in regions that make all export products from the USA far too expensive.
exports will decrease - products will not be produced - jobs will be lost.
american companies that can move into other countries will do it. others who can´t will suffer.

and all that with higher budgets for military, walls and other nonsense and with FAR less tax income.

all this are manifested rules - every child should know them.
the more strange it is for me that adult people obviously do not know these rules or do not want to know them.

EVERYTHING that trump has been tried or preached here has already been tried. by bush, reagan and many others and ALL have failed miserably.

so either we're talking about huge educational gaps or infinite ignorance. because that CAN'T go well.

You can also inflate out of the debt. The US wants to do this. I am not sure whose plan it is or if it even is much of a plan but we bring it up a lot.

only up to a point - if this point is passed the inflation can´t be stopped.
as US also have dept in other currencies the only ones who can lose on that are the own citizens and banks - but the dept in foreign currencies would rise.
so this is also not a good plan.

the true answer is as simple as it is frightening:

no president can ever be elected who tells the people the truth - and the truth is that US lived in the past centuries from borrowed money.
if someone comes and would say: "time to pay back" he would not have the smallest chance to win.
So people will keep trying to choose a supposed wizard who promises them everything he can never keep.

americans are not even reasonable enough to give up their weapons - and even less are they willing to forego prosperity to finally pay off the debts of their fathers and grandfathers.

nobody with the truth on their lips would be listened to. because this truth is unpleasant. and that goes on until the big crash.

The whole global banking system is a game. It's not real. Just like banks are too big to fail, so is America.

Oh please...tell your "black friend" that despite being outnumbered by whites five to one, blacks commit eight times more crimes against whites than vice-versa, according to FBI statistics from 2007. A black male is 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. These figures also show that interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white.

when your dog bites you it is mostly not the dog´s fault.
education is the answer.
you can see it on yourself. if you would receive a good education you would probably see
the roots of the problem and not use your energy to make it bigger.

so you see - exactly what these uneducated people are to you you are for educated people.
the only difference between you and them is that you HAD the chance.

The whole western world and then add in Japan are in the same boat. We are bankrupt. Growth is not possible with all of the workers retiring.

if profit rallies would not be the goal the world would be able to stand that.
Japan is in a horrible situation too but look at the people there. they are WILLING to suffer for their country and they WOULD suffer for it. the mentality there is very different to the west.

also retiring workers are not really the problem because those are consumers also.
an economy is no economy without people who want/can buy - and this is the biggest goal for the next 100 years when 90% of mankind is replaced by robots.
for WHOM should they produce when nobody have money ?

when you think this thought til the end you will find out very fast that this could not work. because all the goods would have to be bought by the few who have money and they have to buy it so expensive that they can make as much money as they want - they would not live prosper.

so the one and ONLY LONGTERM way out is a socialist system where the people who don´t work OWN the robots. but if mankind will survive til than is the second question because our planet is on the way to die.

but on short term we still can do a lot. there are plenty of new markets and technologies that are crying for workers (sure not in coal).
ALL this chances are denied from trump because he is an old fart with no idea what is going on in this world and how world economy works.

all his advisors told him that and got fired for it. instead, he now has advisors that are even dumberr than him and that's where he builds his policy.

no country in the world can act alone anymore. our technology is so advanced that even tiny banana states are able to wipe out the world. against each other ends in the apocalypse. but trump will NEVER understand that - and he don´t have to because he is old fart full of inferiority complexes and don´t cares a fuck what happens after him.