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Bladewire 12-17-2018 05:23 PM

Awesome pics from pristine newly discovered 4,400-Year-Old Tomb in Egypt
 
So the Egyptians were full-on 100% black?

I had heard this previously but it seems this newly discovered tomb verifies that as fact that one of our most advanced early civilizations was created by black people :thumbsup

This 4,400-Year-Old Tomb Is In Great Condition And Officials In Egypt Are Stunned


JFK 12-17-2018 05:48 PM

saw that elsewhere, looks great, wonder what happen to the coffins ?

pimpmaster9000 12-17-2018 05:50 PM

black jews! a redhats worst nightmare!!!

Diomed 12-17-2018 06:10 PM

Connect 4.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blac...ian_hypothesis

Jerome remembers back in the day he was a kid but he's not a kid anymore, though some days and some times he wishes he was a kid again.

Bladewire 12-17-2018 06:25 PM

Ok more proof Egyptians were black. Interesting

Diomed 12-17-2018 06:58 PM

More proof you are a cuck nutter ya mean?

"The study showed that Ancient Egyptians had the greatest affinity for modern Middle Eastern (Arab, Levantine and Anatolian) populations, and had significantly more affinity with southeastern Europeans than with sub-Saharan Africans."

CaptainHowdy 12-18-2018 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22383172)
So the Egyptians were full-on 100% black?

What difference does it make?

The Porn Nerd 12-18-2018 08:27 AM

Well Egypt IS in Africa (duh) so I'm sure the Egyptians were a mix of African black and Arab (semitic) tribes.

Or maybe they were aliens? LOL

King Mark 12-18-2018 09:07 AM

I'm not an expert of all this, but I read somewhere years ago that "race" wasn't an issue in "ancient Egypt" and they were ethnically diverse af.

Paul Markham 12-18-2018 09:29 AM

Bladewire is trying to convince us that because they were advanced 4,000 years ago, they are the same as Europeans today.

Good luck with that BW. LOL

King Mark 12-18-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22383452)
Bladewire is trying to convince us that because they were advanced 4,000 years ago, they are the same as Europeans today.

Good luck with that BW. LOL

Well, it's not the same. People were sabotaged, libraries burned, art stolen, mass murders, monuments destroyed and people enslaved to whitewash history.

Paul Markham 12-18-2018 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22383454)
Well, it's not the same. People were sabotaged, libraries burned, art stolen, mass murders, monuments destroyed and people enslaved to whitewash history.

What race didn't do that?

Some races in some parts are still doing it.

Stop looking at things from a racist slant and look at individuals on what they bring to the table.

King Mark 12-18-2018 09:40 AM

I didn't bring race into this. Y'all did. Y'all just don't like being corrected about it.

sleazyashell 12-18-2018 10:00 AM

Even White or brown Faces can be matched. This proves nothing

Bladewire 12-18-2018 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22383452)
Bladewire is trying to convince us that because they were advanced 4,000 years ago, they are the same as Europeans today.

Good luck with that BW. LOL

The statues of black men & women in the tomb speak for themselves. you are trying to convince yourself opposite of the obvious.

The stautues are of black people. I find it extremely odd people fighting the obvious black skin, black curly hair, brown eyes. Black Kings. Black Queens. Black Gods. But hey, those are your issues.

I'm fine with one of the most pivotal, advanced, wealthiest societies in history on earth being comprised of black people.

Sarn 12-18-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

So the Egyptians were full-on 100% black?
:1orglaugh

https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/co...mFUGetXAbs.jpg

VRPdommy 12-18-2018 11:48 AM

See these the other day.
Remarkable find.
It is a early generation of dynasty that were guardians of the sacred ship, for those of you who are not aware, was buried next to the great pyramid. And is now a museum itself.
The wiki page will give you a few extra detail but there is much more to know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khufu_ship

I have has some long standing theories about that ship and many of them will be revealed in this find. Then you will know exactly where the first dynasties came from... who by the way, did not build those pyramids nor the sphinx.
They came to inhabit them and make them their own.

VRPdommy 12-18-2018 12:33 PM

For those that want to play the race card... besides being a a-hole, you prove the point you only have a desire to know the truth until it does not serve your political purpose.

The ruling class in the early dynasty 'may have been' more 'meso-american' in color and race. Throughout time, these faces changes as the ruling class changed without the culture fully changing with it. And at least for one period, it was ruled by a black class who overthrew because of discrimination believe it or not. But probably not the kind you are thinking. Before this time race was never a issue.

Whenever you speak of 'Egyptian's' you really need to specify a time period to know who you are talking about as it was never the same over the last 5000 years.

It can be rather confusing to see people migrate and take the religion of the new place as their own while bringing a new language to them at the same time as merging cultural habits. You have to track them all separately.

The Bible and Torah was formed by taking in the writings of the Sumerian/Akad/Babylonian culture when the Hebrew were in exile in Babylon as a prime example. Migrating back to their homeland with the new version after Cyrus the great released them.

It is this discovery that will reveal more about the original period of rule. There is much more to be revealed in this find. We have little history for this period.

The Porn Nerd 12-18-2018 06:18 PM

Look, the Egyptians weren't black otherwise The Bangles wouldn't sing about walking like them.

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Bladewire 12-18-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22383589)
For those that want to play the race card... besides being a a-hole, you prove the point you only have a desire to know the truth until it does not serve your political purpose.

The ruling class in the early dynasty 'may have been' more 'meso-american' in color and race. Throughout time, these faces changes as the ruling class changed without the culture fully changing with it. And at least for one period, it was ruled by a black class who overthrew because of discrimination believe it or not. But probably not the kind you are thinking. Before this time race was never a issue.

Whenever you speak of 'Egyptian's' you really need to specify a time period to know who you are talking about as it was never the same over the last 5000 years.

It can be rather confusing to see people migrate and take the religion of the new place as their own while bringing a new language to them at the same time as merging cultural habits. You have to track them all separately.

The Bible and Torah was formed by taking in the writings of the Sumerian/Akad/Babylonian culture when the Hebrew were in exile in Babylon as a prime example. Migrating back to their homeland with the new version after Cyrus the great released them.

It is this discovery that will reveal more about the original period of rule. There is much more to be revealed in this find. We have little history for this period.

I find this all very fascinating thanks for the insight

VRPdommy 12-18-2018 08:54 PM

If you look at this pic from the find...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1240
I find this one most interesting from all the photos I have seen.
This part of tomb is much older than 3000 years.
Took me a while to find the page it came from again from since I read this last month.
I am waiting on more info from this find.
Obviously, it has been re-opened and re-used at different times.
Going to have to wait on the radio carbon dating if they release that.

VRPdommy 12-19-2018 08:57 AM

But this was found in the Americas, New Hampshire to be exact in 1872.
Likely 6000 years old
4"x2.5"
https://www.sott.net/image/s13/26253...ngs_stones.jpg

CaptainHowdy 12-19-2018 09:04 AM

Now we're all anthropologists . . .

Paul Markham 12-19-2018 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22383465)
I didn't bring race into this. Y'all did. Y'all just don't like being corrected about it.

I didn't bring race into the discussion. I brought today's skills, culture and ethics into the discussion.

Paul Markham 12-19-2018 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22383478)
The statues of black men & women in the tomb speak for themselves. you are trying to convince yourself opposite of the obvious.

The stautues are of black people. I find it extremely odd people fighting the obvious black skin, black curly hair, brown eyes. Black Kings. Black Queens. Black Gods. But hey, those are your issues.

I'm fine with one of the most pivotal, advanced, wealthiest societies in history on earth being comprised of black people.

So if they were so advanced and Homo Sapiens started out black and in Africa. Why are they not as advanced as Europeans today?

jiguideveloper 12-19-2018 10:54 AM

Awesome pics

King Mark 12-19-2018 11:03 AM

Lol, Paul's racism he been trying to hide slowly stepping out of the closet. You sure you want that answer bro? Make sure you ready.

Bladewire 12-19-2018 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22384135)
So if they were so advanced and Homo Sapiens started out black and in Africa. Why are they not as advanced as Europeans today?

Come on Paul you can't be that myopic, or maybe you can. Why do we have a disproportionately higher amount of black scientists and computer engineers in America?

VRPdommy 12-19-2018 09:03 PM

LOL
Not all white men should feel inferior. Just some !

dillfly2000 12-19-2018 09:24 PM

Love this stuff.

Paul Markham 12-20-2018 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22384146)
Lol, Paul's racism he been trying to hide slowly stepping out of the closet. You sure you want that answer bro? Make sure you ready.

Please do answer. Bladewire is trying but failing over and over again.

Paul Markham 12-20-2018 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22384148)
Come on Paul you can't be that myopic, or maybe you can. Why do we have a disproportionately higher amount of black scientists and computer engineers in America?

There you go again making it about the colour of their skin. A black man in born or living long term America or Europe is by definition an American or European.

Please stop being racist and look beyond a persons colour.

pimpmaster9000 12-20-2018 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22384135)
So if they were so advanced and Homo Sapiens started out black and in Africa. Why are they not as advanced as Europeans today?

it is because of your advanced alzheimers paul....you keep forgetting that the white man has been exploiting the living shit out of africa for centuries and he never stopped...the whip was replaced by debt...it is hilarious that africa still "owes" its oppressors money...

anyway, take your alzheimers meds paul :thumbsup

VRPdommy 12-20-2018 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22384510)
There you go again making it about the colour of their skin. A black man in born or living long term America or Europe is by definition an American or European.

Please stop being racist and look beyond a persons colour.

So you are saying it is the environment they are brought up in, not the color of their skin ? I agree to that.

Paul Markham 12-20-2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384613)
So you are saying it is the environment they are brought up in, not the color of their skin ? I agree to that.

Give that man a cigar, he's our winner.

Others are obsessed by the colour of a person. But if you give a white American baby into an, for instance, African family he will grow up to be like them. If yo u take a baby from that tribe and give it to a White educated family. He will grow up to be like them.

So the colour of a persons skin is irrelevant.

Bladewire is trying to prove otherwise. :upsidedow

King Mark 12-20-2018 09:29 AM

The fact you consider "African families" as "tribes"... Nevermind man... Have fun deflecting the fact you're raci...

VRPdommy 12-20-2018 09:59 AM

Nobody asked me, But I think modern man is quite stupid.
To even think we can have these conversations.
It is obvious to me that when you look at such things as the great pyramids, Machu Picchu and items like the Anti Kythera device and can not be explained by modern man really says something to me.

There are no superior beings on earth anymore. If there were, they could at least explain those 3 things without a argument.

Face it, we are all dumb shits trying to learn what was once handily known !

We can not build like they did nor understand the universe as they did. We can't even figure out how they moved those massive stones ! Dumb ass's we are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism (i'm building one of these from 3d cad files from those xrays)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_Picchu

How old is man ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...an_settlements

Throughout time, we have faced those that make a claim to be descendants of those superior beings.

ghjghj 12-20-2018 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22383172)
advanced early civilizations was created by black people

:1orglaugh

https://i.imgur.com/IwfzK7R.jpg

King Mark 12-20-2018 10:30 AM

To Paul, those were just "uncivilized savages... Like those injuns"

CaptainHowdy 12-20-2018 10:33 AM

https://i.imgur.com/rWTRh1E.jpg

VRPdommy 12-20-2018 12:13 PM

The theories of man starting in Africa went to the trash a long time ago.
Man himself is much older than that old migration pattern theory shows.

The answer is, we do not know. How smart is that ?

Evidence show us that the great pyramids and Spinx are probably 12,000 years old but we have no human remains of that time period. In that area anyway.

There are plenty more pyramids than those in Egypt. Just less known.

https://www.talesofcroatia.com/en/jo...snian-pyramids

https://lostworlds.org/ancient-walle...georgia-coast/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

Most folks vision of history is limited to their cultural upbringing and religion that went with it.

There is plenty of evidence of worldwide trade before Christ Helios but why does it escape the history books.

https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/egyptiancanyon/

Take a look at these artifacts pulled from a cave in Illinois
(10's of thousands of artifacts are not hoax)
https://www.google.com/search?q=burr...w=1280&bih=624

Or these pulled from mounds in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana...
https://www.google.com/search?biw=12...mg.ud72o6Wo0DU

And everyone 'THINKS' they have a grip on history...
I could go on for days on this stuff. And yes, I have studied these old languages enough to read some of them. Being able to speak the sounds has nothing to do with understanding the content and context of what is being said. That takes a very long time.

Everyone needs to re-think what they think they know of history.

Diomed 12-20-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384689)
The theories of man starting in Africa went to the trash a long time ago.
Man himself is much older than that old migration pattern theory shows.

The answer is, we do not know. How smart is that ?

Evidence show us that the great pyramids and Spinx are probably 12,000 years old but we have no human remains of that time period. In that area anyway.

There are plenty more pyramids than those in Egypt. Just less known.

https://www.talesofcroatia.com/en/jo...snian-pyramids

https://lostworlds.org/ancient-walle...georgia-coast/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

Most folks vision of history is limited to their cultural upbringing and religion that went with it.

There is plenty of evidence of worldwide trade before Christ Helios but why does it escape the history books.

https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/egyptiancanyon/

Take a look at these artifacts pulled from a cave in Illinois
(10's of thousands of artifacts are not hoax)
https://www.google.com/search?q=burr...w=1280&bih=624

Or these pulled from mounds in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana...
https://www.google.com/search?biw=12...mg.ud72o6Wo0DU

And everyone 'THINKS' they have a grip on history...
I could go on for days on this stuff. And yes, I have studied these old languages enough to read some of them. Being able to speak the sounds has nothing to do with understanding the content and context of what is being said. That takes a very long time.

Everyone needs to re-think what they think they know of history.

I agree with this.

The first thing all of us should realize is that we know almost nothing.

VRPdommy 12-20-2018 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384107)
But this was found in the Americas, New Hampshire to be exact in 1872.
Likely 6000 years old
4"x2.5"
https://www.sott.net/image/s13/26253...ngs_stones.jpg

This 'egg stone' actually tells a story of the rejuvenation of the earth in a cycle.
When I first laid eyes on it nearly every symbol was recognizable to me.
Never had I seen them used together in this way.
The one icon with 2 pointy peeks represents the precession of the earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession
Something we know people of pre-history were aware of.... but how ?

And we think we are so smart.

pimpmaster9000 12-21-2018 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384689)
The theories of man starting in Africa went to the trash a long time ago.
Man himself is much older than that old migration pattern theory shows.

The answer is, we do not know. How smart is that ?

Evidence show us that the great pyramids and Spinx are probably 12,000 years old but we have no human remains of that time period. In that area anyway.

what do you mean there are no human remains in that area? the giza plateau has builders quarters still remaining with tons of stuff found there...they even found the specific builders tombs...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._%28map%29.svg


Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384689)

the bosnian pyramids are a complete hoax...the dude who "found" them wants to drill a hole in them to release cosmic energy and he is batshit crazy...tons of geologists and archeologists have been at the site and they did not find shit...he then rented some excavators and tried to make a fake step pyramid and then called journalists who called him out on the BS :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 12-21-2018 02:44 AM

yea really cool.. there is a facebook group by the museum there: https://www.facebook.com/Egypt.Culture/

best part of fb currently lol

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22384957)
what do you mean there are no human remains in that area? the giza plateau has builders quarters still remaining with tons of stuff found there...they even found the specific builders tombs...

the bosnian pyramids are a complete hoax...the dude who "found" them wants to drill a hole in them to release cosmic energy and he is batshit crazy...tons of geologists and archeologists have been at the site and they did not find shit...he then rented some excavators and tried to make a fake step pyramid and then called journalists who called him out on the BS :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your not reading what I wrote.
Fine... I'll break it down for you...
show me human remains 12,000 years old in that area of Egypt, which is the time these are estimated to have been built. This places it before the 'flood story'.
Plenty of human remains, just none from the period it was built.

Those that we think of as the Egyptians, came to inhabit these structures much the same as the Inca inhabited Machu Picchu in Peru and made it their own, building on top of and fixing what was bad . For our story, Khufu even re-carved his likeness in the sphinx. Those same folks tried to re-make the pyramids in a image they were creating. In the process, covered the' eye of horus ' (see the back of a $1 us bill), a large mica slate 12 ft thick at the top of the great pyramid, found to be of south american origin by mineral content. All art, writing and cultural artifacts are newer than 5,000 years.

So make sure you read it as I wrote it.

The Bosnian Pyramids have been recently excavated and continue to reveal secrets from those underground passageways. Just because one 'nutter' is making strange claims does not make it all a hoax. Folks do the same with the great pyramid and even our landing on the moon.

Just like politics, you have to have a BS filter. I follow only the science. But the last 25 years, I started following cultures, languages and religions. As I did, I had a much better BS filter. I can better date any writing because of looking at it in that way.

The 'great flood story' is told by all cultures around the globe. Best told in the Sumerian texts, clay tablets that date back to 4k bc+ and is some of the oldest writing to date.
The event likely happened between 8500 and 6500 bc that was likely caused by celestial events from the gravity of a near passing body to earth. Some of the same events that likely created the asteroid belt past mars.

If you don't keep up with rapid science discovery of the last 15-20 years, you probably don't even know that our solar system was originally part of the Sagittarius Minor when it got swept up by the Milky Way.

Anyway the ancient folks had a good foundation of celestial events. Why ?
All cultures were tracking the precession of the earth for a new coming of the 'GODS'.
The sphinx that is LEO (the lion) denotes a time marker of the 'age of leo' which is the first astro symbol in the morning of the spring equinox when this was built. Around 10,500 bc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age
And is why it faces East.

The 3 pyramids when viewed from the top, show a exact alignment with the 'Belt of the constellation ORION' which is the last constellation they see at sunset for this 'time marker'. Almost every strange science tid-bit in this area before the coming of Khufu show strange ties to Orion.
And all those facts nobody has really been able to piece together for a reason.
Probably a mystery till we know who built them and why. I have always believed they tell a story to last ages but was not the sole purpose. But I will not go there now.

Most theory of what we were taught in school has been totally discredited by real science, not theory. I can only guess the only reason most of it does not make bigger headlines is much of it would break religious belief.

Anyway, as long as I have been studying this stuff, I always find at least one story calling things a hoax. Sound familiar. Some of them are, but some things like the findings of 'Soper and Savage' in the Midwest could not possibly manufacture over 30,000 artifact containing languages that were hardly known in the 1800's (would be 2 pretty busy guys).But others were unearthing the same during the late 1800's and early 1900's and number well over 100k most in private collections now. You are no longer allowed to dig into these mounds anymore even if on your own private property.

But those Soper/Savage artifacts are discredited to this day. The reason then...
At the time they were believed to be 'Indian artifacts' and the Indians were not known to have a written language and would change their classification in the eyes of the US government as 'NOT A SAVAGE PEOPLE' and that would stop them from 'stealing their land'.
That was done by the head of the freshly formed Smithsonian Institution.
Of course, they were not native artifacts but from folks that visited/migrated from areas of the middle east areas around 1700 bc. But why discredit them now ? After getting tossed around for a while, they recently found a home in Michigans' museum's.
There is at least one language yet to be deciphered on some of them and it is found in remote places like Greece and some coastal areas in china on pottery fragments.

Anyway, it's not very often I get the chance to talk about this stuff. And much of it is not believable if you have not followed the true science lately. I understand that.
And no, I don't follow those folks talking about capturing/focusing energy of/by the pyramids. Sorry.

Bladewire 12-21-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22385144)
Your not reading what I wrote.
Fine... I'll break it down for you...
show me human remains 12,000 years old in that area, which is the time these are estimated to have been built. This places it before the 'flood story'.
Plenty of human remains, just none from the period it was built.

Those that we think of as the Egyptians, came to inhabit these structures much the same as the Inca inhabited Machu Picchu in Peru and made it their own, building on top of and fixing what was bad . For our story, Khufu even re-carved his likeness in the sphinx. Those same folks tried to re-make the pyramids in a image they were creating. In the process, covered the' eye of horus ' (see the back of a $1 us bill), a large mica slate 12 ft thick at the top of the great pyramid, found to be of south american origin by mineral content. All art, writing and cultural artifacts are newer than 5,000 years.

So make sure you read it as I wrote it.

The Bosnian Pyramids have been recently excavated and continue to reveal secrets from those underground passageways. Just because one 'nutter' is making strange claims does not make it all a hoax. Folks do the same with the great pyramid and even our landing on the moon.

Just like politics, you have to have a BS filter. I follow only the science. But the last 25 years, I started following cultures, languages and religions. As I did, I had a much better BS filter. I can better date any writing because of looking at it in that way.

The 'great flood story' is told by all cultures around the globe. Best told in the Sumerian texts, clay tablets that date back to 4k bc+ and is some of the oldest writing to date.
The event likely happened between 8500 and 6500 bc that was likely caused by celestial events from the gravity of a near passing body to earth. Some of the same events that likely created the asteroid belt past mars.

If you don't keep up with rapid science discovery of the last 15-20 years, you probably don't even know that our solar system was originally part of the Sagittarius Minor when it got swept up by the Milky Way.

Anyway the ancient folks had a good foundation of celestial events. Why ?
All cultures were tracking the precession of the earth for a new coming of the 'GODS'.
The sphinx that is LEO (the lion) denotes a time marker of the 'age of leo' which is the first astro symbol in the morning of the spring equinox when this was built. Around 10,500 bc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age
And is why it faces East.

The 3 pyramids when viewed from the top, show a exact alignment with the 'Belt of the constellation ORION' which is the last constellation they see at sunset for this 'time marker'. Almost every strange science tid-bit in this area before the coming of Khufu show strange ties to Orion.
And all those facts nobody has really been able to piece together for a reason.
Probably a mystery till we know who built them and why. I have always believed they tell a story to last ages but was not the sole purpose. But I will not go there now.

Most theory of what we were taught in school has been totally discredited by real science, not theory. I can only guess the only reason most of it does not make bigger headlines is much of it would break religious belief.

Anyway, as long as I have been studying this stuff, I always find at least one story calling things a hoax. Sound familiar. Some of them are, but some things like the findings of 'Soper and Savage' in the Midwest could not possibly manufacture over 30,000 artifact containing languages that were hardly known in the 1800's (would be 2 pretty busy guys).But others were unearthing the same during the late 1800's and early 1900's and number well over 100k most in private collections now. You are no longer allowed to dig into these mounds anymore even if on your own private property.

But those Soper/Savage artifacts are discredited to this day. The reason then...
At the time they were believed to be 'Indian artifacts' and the Indians were not known to have a written language and would change their classification in the eyes of the US government as 'NOT A SAVAGE PEOPLE' and that would stop them from 'stealing their land'.
That was done by the head of the freshly formed Smithsonian Institution.
Of course, they were not native artifacts but from folks that visited/migrated from areas of the middle east areas around 1700 bc. But why discredit them now ? After getting tossed around for a while, they recently found a home in Michigans' museum's.
There is at least one language yet to be deciphered on some of them and it is found in remote places like Greece and some coastal areas in china on pottery fragments.

Anyway, it's not very often I get the chance to talk about this stuff. And much of it is not believable if you have not followed the true science lately. I understand that.
And no, I don't follow those folks talking about capturing/focusing energy of/by the pyramids. Sorry.

A lot of really great info there thank you! Who knew we are all actually from a different galaxy Sagittarius Minor originally.

It's amazing how our universe works so many mysteries yet unsolved so many bits of knowledge not revealed yet.

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 12:29 PM

I really like to show how some 'hoax' stories get started.
A few years ago, a discovery was made in lake Michigan. It was a Stonehenge like structure all discovered by mistake while doing some sonar readings of the lake floor.
Anyway, divers went down to have a peek and this is what they confirmed.

Now because of a discovery of the carving of a elephant on a stone, one 'SMART PERSON?' made a claim that mastodons were in north America while people inhabited it.
And they continued to date the find 10's of thousands of years older than it is.

Now someone else comes along to rightfully say that is not possible. Many call the whole find a hoax.

Now, to show you there is a truth to this find, just not the one being presented to you.
From the Soper and Savage story I mentioned above, folks were migrating here from mid-east areas in large numbers 1750BC and perhaps earlier, but I would mention your biblical story of Joseph who was Sobek's right hand man that came to what we know as the Americas bringing back grains to Egypt and thwarting famine. And is why he is so much of a hero.

But at that time, in the mid-east areas, they had 'war-ing elephants', yes used in battle probably much before this time but were continued to be a celebrated animal.

So now you know why it is there and when it was put there.
But, as all of this history leads me to one other favorite topic that can tell other stories of history like geology. Why is this all 12 meters below the waters surface ? and the level of the great lakes have been shrinking ! I have already tied those findings to figure out how they got those ships through the St Lawrence seaway to the lakes.
A story for some other time.

But here is a story from the web that may not be the best. Just wanted to give you some additional reading on the topic.

Ancient "Stonehenge" at the bottom of Lake Michigan | Earth Chronicles News

Don't take a pass on science just because someone makes a outrageous claim. Stick to the facts.

CaptainHowdy 12-21-2018 12:30 PM

Science isn't about always getting it right, VRPdommy . . .

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22385211)
Science isn't about always getting it right, VRPdommy . . .

Theory is not always getting it right.

Theory is conclusions from the best representation of the science.

Most bad theory is based on bad science to begin with. Or to many assumptions from the lack of clear answers in science. But this always changes and is updated.
Don't confuse theory with fact and/or science.

Most of us grew in this world accepting theory as fact. Which is why it runs against the grain today when we know better that the old theory is invalid. It's just that it takes much longer to update the thinking, even in this high speed data world.

It is still hard today to speak against things that defy religion. So nobody does.

I quest to put history together in a way that makes sense without ferry tales.


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