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mce 12-25-2018 04:49 PM

Should the US also ban puppy and kitten sales by pet shops?
 
https://www.france24.com/en/20181225...ales-pet-shops

I get the noble intentions behind this policy... I really do. But would this REALLY have the intended effect of encouraging rescued pet adoptions?

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 04:58 PM

great they just drove up the price! wonder how many in the gov own breeding kennels!

Bladewire 12-25-2018 05:06 PM

Stupid idea :2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 12-25-2018 05:07 PM

Yes it would...it is a good idea and should be implemented over time so breeders csn sell off their current dogs and cats...shelters should be the primary source...

EddyTheDog 12-25-2018 05:11 PM

It's actually about stopping rogue puppy and kitten farms - A large percentage are really terrible places...

Search "Lucy's Law".....

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 05:14 PM

is it worth paying 3 times the current price??? it will never happen here

Bladewire 12-25-2018 05:26 PM

Here in California they just passed a law where all pet stores are going to be forced to only sell animals from shelters and rescues only.

Puppy Mills will start working with, or creating their own, shelters.

The more puppies and cats the shelters sell, the more money the shelter makes. The more pure breeds of puppies and cats they have that people want to buy, the more money they will make.

Not selling at pet stores just brings them all underground and selling in alternative cenarios.

On Craigslist here in California the breeders use frontmen/women to sell litters as if they were just normal folks with a litter to sell for a "rehoming" fee.

Rochard 12-25-2018 05:35 PM

I remember when I was younger I used to see pet stores in the mall. I haven't seen them in years. This backs up what Bladewide says above about California laws.

My dog recently passed away and it's getting to the point where I think I want a new dog. I've been looking online at pet rescues. Not much sense in me buying a dog that someone else will eventually buy when I can save a dog's life by adapting from a local shelter.

Adult-biz 12-25-2018 07:09 PM

Should be banned in as many countries as possible. If you are after a dog or cat, their is absolutely no reason to use the breeding farms. Their are rescue centres all over the UK (and I am sure all over the U.S too) with pretty much every dog breed imaginable available for rehoming.

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Statiztics (Post 22386608)
Should be banned in as many countries as possible. If you are after a dog or cat, their is absolutely no reason to use the breeding farms. Their are rescue centres all over the UK (and I am sure all over the U.S too) with pretty much every dog breed imaginable available for rehoming.

they can not force you to buy mutts... :2 cents::2 cents: there will be a legal challenge

Adult-biz 12-25-2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22386612)
they can not force you to buy mutts... :2 cents::2 cents: there will be a legal challenge

What the fuck are you talking about? Do you even understand what this law is about?

bronco67 12-25-2018 09:11 PM

I don't think pet shops are good...but what is the intended effect of this ban? To push people toward buying from a breeder or adopting from a shelter? That sounds like a band aid. If they would make breeding without a license a criminal offense it would override the need for so many dogs to be needing adoption, since they would never be born in the first place. When all of these dogs are homeless in shelters waiting to die, why is it legal for any asshole to breed litters of pups, whether intentional or not?

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Statiztics (Post 22386614)
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you even understand what this law is about?

watch the prices jump up :2 cents::2 cents:

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22386623)
I don't think pet shops are good...but what is the intended effect of this ban? To push people toward buying from a breeder or adopting from a shelter? That sounds like a band aid. If they would make breeding without a license a criminal offense it would override the need for so many dogs to be needing adoption, since they would never be born in the first place. When all of these dogs are homeless in shelters waiting to die, why is it legal for any asshole to breed litters of pups, whether intentional or not?

you don't buy purebreds at a shelter.

bronco67 12-25-2018 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22386633)
you don't buy purebreds at a shelter.

People should be able to breed, but only with a license. It would trim down the overall number of dogs being born. Just like there's already too many guns, there's also too many dogs.

MFCT 12-25-2018 09:53 PM

As someone who's proudly offended by everything (except anything I like and anything I like to do, of course) I say ban it all!

thommy 12-25-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22386612)
they can not force you to buy mutts... :2 cents::2 cents: there will be a legal challenge

THIS is their life until they get sold:

http://www.darwindogs.org/site/wp-co...hop-in-001.jpg

they are the mutts

brassmonkey 12-25-2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22386638)
THIS is their life until they get sold:

http://www.darwindogs.org/site/wp-co...hop-in-001.jpg

they are the mutts

that's fucking nuts! here they are in a pin with toys,food and water

mce 12-25-2018 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22386588)
great they just drove up the price! wonder how many in the gov own breeding kennels!

Good point about supply and demand... Seems similar to DRUG prohibition

EddyTheDog 12-26-2018 12:23 AM

I'm not some of you guys are getting it - They are stopping the rogue breeders from hiding behind pet shops and other third parties - Someone who wants a dog will have to go to the breeder themselves and see for themselves what the conditions are like...

Of course there will be numerous loopholes - However, it's a start.....

Paul Markham 12-26-2018 02:05 AM

Anyone who buys from a pet shop is a moron, to buy from a pet shop on price makes you a cheap short sighted moron.

Buy from a place you can meet the breeder, see the mother, litter and conditions the pups are kept in. To make sure puppy farms don't sell you an expensive long term disaster.

When you buy a puppy you buying a life, a member of the family for 10 plus years.

pimpmaster9000 12-26-2018 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22386624)
watch the prices jump up :2 cents::2 cents:

Good...less assholes will have dogs and people will value them more if they pay more...

CurrentlySober 12-26-2018 04:17 AM

i cunt a4d a pet... :(

Manfap 12-26-2018 04:25 AM

My local petshop takes in litters of puppies and gives them away, rather than them going to the pound, and the pound having to deal with/find homes for.

They earn some $ as you have to get them chipped, vaccinated.

mce 12-26-2018 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22386712)
My local petshop takes in litters of puppies and gives them away, rather than them going to the pound, and the pound having to deal with/find homes for.

They earn some $ as you have to get them chipped, vaccinated.

I didn't look at it that way...

HowlingWulf 12-27-2018 11:51 AM

I think a little effort spent on public education on this issue would have been better than a new policy.

brassmonkey 12-30-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22386674)
Anyone who buys from a pet shop is a moron, to buy from a pet shop on price makes you a cheap short sighted moron.

Buy from a place you can meet the breeder, see the mother, litter and conditions the pups are kept in. To make sure puppy farms don't sell you an expensive long term disaster.

When you buy a puppy you buying a life, a member of the family for 10 plus years.

that is fine... but they control the price and will fuck you over in the end :2 cents::2 cents:

SilentKnight 12-30-2018 02:51 PM

Our two rescue lads Marshall and London.

Much better to rescue and save a life than condone and contribute to puppy mills.


https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5CC89CA5

GAMEFINEST 12-30-2018 03:07 PM

I prefer getting from the shelter too

thommy 12-30-2018 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22386674)
Anyone who buys from a pet shop is a moron, to buy from a pet shop on price makes you a cheap short sighted moron.

Buy from a place you can meet the breeder, see the mother, litter and conditions the pups are kept in. To make sure puppy farms don't sell you an expensive long term disaster.

When you buy a puppy you buying a life, a member of the family for 10 plus years.

you know paul. THIS is the reason why i still talk to you in other issues and try to explain you things that you might got wrong or very missinformed. because you HAVE a heart ! i wish your brain would be the same size.

i would wish you have this human thinking not only when it comes to animals

brassmonkey 12-30-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22388640)
you know paul. THIS is the reason why i still talk to you in other issues and try to explain you things that you might got wrong or very missinformed. because you HAVE a heart ! i wish your brain would be the same size.

i would wish you have this human thinking not only when it comes to animals

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NoWhErE 12-30-2018 06:36 PM

Stopping pet stores from selling animals is one step in the right direction to stopping pet mills. They are their #1 client.

That purebreed you are getting from the pet store is most likely trauhahahahahaed by all the shit the pet store and puppy mill owners put him through.

The second step is to stop peer to peer sales. Lots of people go to shelters or wherever they can find cheap dogs and then turn around and sell them for a premium on Craigslist.

Giving away animals or selling them cheaply is only putting them in harms way. If a family can't afford to buy an animal, they probably shouldn't own one.

Lastly, the final step to fixing the issue with puppy mills is to have all animals registered and tracked through a central authority.

All this may seem excessive, but anything else just leaves room to people using living animals for financial gain which leads to abuse.

directfiesta 12-30-2018 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22388630)
Our two rescue lads Marshall and London.

Much better to rescue and save a life than condone and contribute to puppy mills.


https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5CC89CA5

:thumbsup

Beautiful dogs !

I have a cat I rescued , as it was dumped at my sister's house ... Been 3+ years , best cat I ever had ... It plays fetch, like a dog ...

BaldBastard 12-31-2018 02:31 AM

So many Russian clucks.. and then you read about Russian animal rights being upgraded.. and realise their still living in the 1930's.

https://www.rt.com/russia/447604-rus...al-rights-law/
  • Shooting or poisoning stray dogs and cats finally illegal in 2019
  • Organizing animal fights finally illegal in 2019
  • Entertainment animals at bars and restaurants finally illegal in 2019


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