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crockett 05-23-2019 10:35 PM

A reminder of why Baby boomers and the Rolling stones are the worst people ever...
 
Today marks the 1st day that the song writer Richard Ashcroft makes a dime from his Grammy nominated 1997 hit Bitter Sweet Sympathy by his band The Verve.

Why are Baby Boomers so greedy and selfish? Why is Mick Jagger & Keith Richards such a cunts?




The story for those who don't know... Also for those that claim it was the Stone's manager not Mick Jagger/Keith Richards that is not True. The Stones were behind the lawsuit to fuck over Richard Ashcroft. After they sued the fuck out of him once the song got popular the Stone's manager then fucked over Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and kept the royalties for him self. (poetic justice maybe?). Then went on to licence the Verve's song commercially and collected 100% of the money. (several millions).

The extremity of this was absolutely absurd because this was never a case of the Verve "stealing" the Stones work and using a sample with out permission. The Verve legally negotiated for the rights to use the sample in their song but after the song became a hit the Stones turned around and sued him saying he used "too long" of a sample..


The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?

"It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum.



Edit.. For the record the Album Urban Hymns was a great album.

optics 05-23-2019 10:46 PM

Without reading the whole post (I don't do walls of text)...Boomers are greedy and selfish because they were the weak people created by good times.

Thank me later.

escorpio 05-24-2019 04:34 AM

Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

RedFred 05-24-2019 06:05 AM

Unlike the Stones, if the Beatles were still around they would have had more than a few hits in the past 45 years. Stones have not had one. They are the most overrated band ever.


John Lennon: Micks a joke and was jealous of the Beatles :1orglaugh



crockett 05-24-2019 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22474789)
Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

Bladewire 05-24-2019 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22474893)
He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

He tries to derail any thread not made by a trump troll.

Your title clearly states the rolling Stones AND baby boomers as being two separate entities not the rolling Stones being baby boomers :thumbsup

Blocked alt-right hate troll reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

escorpio 05-24-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22474905)
He tries to derail any thread not made by a trump troll.

Your title clearly states the rolling Stones AND baby boomers as being two separate entities not the rolling Stones being baby boomers :thumbsup

So what do baby boomers have to do with it?

escorpio 05-24-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22474893)
He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

I'm splitting hairs. Got you on a technicality.

crockett 05-24-2019 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22474910)
So what do baby boomers have to do with it?

They are the worst people ever aside from the Stones.. Boomers were the Stones fan base...

crockett 05-24-2019 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22474912)
I'm splitting hairs. Got you on a technicality.

You didn't get shit.. you don't have the brain capacity to "get" anything.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

escorpio 05-24-2019 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22474928)
They are the worst people ever aside from the Stones.. Boomers were the Stones fan base...

Once again, the hateful intolerant crockett stereotypes and disparages an entire group of people.

escorpio 05-24-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22474929)
You didn't get shit.. you don't have the brain capacity to "get" anything.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I get that baby boomers weren't born in 1943. :winkwink:

The Porn Nerd 05-24-2019 10:39 AM

Rolling Stones: overrated.
Baby Boomers: sociopaths
Richard Ashcroft: who??

crockett 05-24-2019 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22474934)
Rolling Stones: overrated.
Baby Boomers: sociopaths
Richard Ashcroft: who??

Song writer and lead signer for the Verve. A rock band who's 1st album hit 22nd spot on the billboard top 100 for the year it was released and 1st single was Grammy nominated. They were fucked out of existance by Stones lawsuits causing the band to break up.

The Porn Nerd 05-24-2019 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22475002)
Song writer and lead signer for the Verve. A rock band who's 1st album hit 22nd spot on the billboard top 100 for the year it was released and 1st single was Grammy nominated. They were fucked out of existance by Stones lawsuits causing the band to break up.

I know who he is. I interviewed Rich in 1996.

SINCE then....who??
I get him confused with the former Attorney General or whoever the fuck that creepy Ashcroft dude was. LOL

Bryan G 05-24-2019 02:33 PM

Crockett, for such an annoying cunt I’m surprised you actually have good musical taste. The Verve were great and Ashcroft still is. He released an album last year and it’s fantastic.

crockett 05-24-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 22475072)
Crockett, for such an annoying cunt I’m surprised you actually have good musical taste. The Verve were great and Ashcroft still is. He released an album last year and it’s fantastic.


Didn't know he released another album. Figured he was hurt out on the music industry after that.

Is it a new band?

Bryan G 05-24-2019 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22475073)
Didn't know he released another album. Figured he was hurt out on the music industry after that.

Is it a new band?

Solo album - the name of the album is Natural Rebel.

He’s never been out of the industry, he’s still pretty massive in the UK. He toured with Liam Gallagher from Oasis last year.

Bladewire 05-24-2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22475061)
I know who he is. I interviewed Rich in 1996.

Uh huh yeah sure

Link to interview

Grapesoda 05-24-2019 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22474789)
Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

stop posting truth in corkit threads :disgust and we both know the rolling stones voted for trump

Grapesoda 05-24-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22474711)
Today marks the 1st day that the song writer Richard Ashcroft makes a dime from his Grammy nominated 1997 hit Bitter Sweet Sympathy by his band The Verve.

Why are Baby Boomers so greedy and selfish? Why is Mick Jagger & Keith Richards such a cunts?




The story for those who don't know... Also for those that claim it was the Stone's manager not Mick Jagger/Keith Richards that is not True. The Stones were behind the lawsuit to fuck over Richard Ashcroft. After they sued the fuck out of him once the song got popular the Stone's manager then fucked over Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and kept the royalties for him self. (poetic justice maybe?). Then went on to licence the Verve's song commercially and collected 100% of the money. (several millions).

The extremity of this was absolutely absurd because this was never a case of the Verve "stealing" the Stones work and using a sample with out permission. The Verve legally negotiated for the rights to use the sample in their song but after the song became a hit the Stones turned around and sued him saying he used "too long" of a sample..


The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?

"It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum.


Edit.. For the record the Album Urban Hymns was a great album.

you think he's cute don't you..

crockett 05-24-2019 03:46 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/enter...gbr/index.html


Guess after all these years he still has it.. from a live show the other day




oh shit.. I totally forgot about this song..



crockett 05-24-2019 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22475100)
you think he's cute don't you..

What's with you right wingers and your gay fantasies?


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