New to the Forum - Any one know of a good DRM software for adult content
 

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So after 6 months of hard grafting I’m almost ready to release an onlyfans kinda site, but with a hell of a lot more. I’ve spent a lot of time creating software through the site that disables any type of screen recording, downloading and screenshooting, the second it happens, the video is disabled and a notice embedded in the video is triggered, a unique ID of the person is already watermarked as a deterrent. anyway so my question is, are there any developers out there that could help me further with this?

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welcome to the forum, and good luck with your project

Once you get it going I and many other content owners would buy the software and you will be rich.So good luck:thumbsup

https://www.digiregs.com might be what you are looking for.

Don't devote too much time to managing piracy, especially if it interrupts the user experience in any way. Focus on generating sales and retaining members. Full scenes and siterips can be DMCA'd.

You might not want to make the auto-actions too harsh as it could trigger accidentally for legit users. Consider some type of daily access limit along with a way for you to receive email notifications for suspicious activity.

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If it's front end surely if you inject js into it you could disable all of your countermeasures.

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It's impossible to stop downloading. If netflix can't do it, you can't either.

What he said. :thumbsup

It has to be, otherwise he have to be doing on the fly transcoding for each individual user watching something to inject the watermark he spoke about.

Welcome to GFY!

Many screen grabbers create video even select window size etc if they want it they will get it.

Won't fly because...

He could change the watermark position intermittently but still easily blurred out with editing.

OP, In a nutshell, it's not possible to stop downloading/stop recording. At all. You can make it more difficult so that the layman can't do it, but as soon as someone that knows what they are doing comes by it will get circumvented with most likely no more then a few minutes of effort. If you post up an example url, I'm sure one of us will very quickly crack it.

This is why it's important to get an overall idea of what the average user accesses in a month and consider that when looking for anomalies.

Well I appreciate the responses, I’ve helped now develop this further with apple. A unique up, name and email appears in various places around the video with the unique I’d each time with the user that plays it. We have tested and tested and we are almost there with some of the best developers out there. You’d have to be a top end hacker but the security and rigorous encryption is as I’ve shown to a limited number of DRM software developers, I have come up with something unique. Yes it may deter members, but if people want to follow performers then they simply cannot film with a camera, screen shot, download. The minute it’s detected the entire screen is frozen.. account disabled and no less and our system brings up everything from location, device, address.m, everything. I’m doing this for performers, the level of security around the site in conjunction with Signifyd that 100% will not allow and fraudulent sign ups and a terms and conditions that have gone back and forth to get right is atleast a massive step in anti piracy. 600 hours have been spent on this so far with apple, google and my development team. I know I have something here that puts videos in a safety zone that very few websites even care about. Onlyfans are one of the worst, they do nothing to deter people from freely screen recording. They just care about money. I just want to produce a website that only top end performers will be on the site and subscribers will go through a quick, but rigorous check before joining. I have 100 of only fans performers test the system and they haven’t hesitated in coming over. A few tweaks to go, but 2-3 weeks and ready for launch 🙌🏼

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Nothing is impossible if you test, test, test and keep testing. I’m a perfectionist. I’ve put everything into this bar the kitchen sink. I’ll never give up on this and it WILL give the user brand new content from the best guy and girl models, but also provide the user with a non evasive and still pleasurable experience.

You can rotate the watermark at different intervals, as you've suggested. Most importantly though, make sure that watermark/image is an actual registered trademark. Because if a thieving POS content pirate is removing/blurring a trademark, they're going to be hearing from an attorney... not just getting a DMCA notice.

Show me what you have - if I can't figure out how to rip it within 20-30 minutes, I will be impressed. There are only so many ways to stream via html5...

I didn't say that it was 100% 'rip-proof' or that there isn't a work around. However, if you're removing a trademark, the US laws (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1114) make it possible to come after you, your platform, your host, et al.

Porn pirates figure DMCA is almost useless and they mostly ignore it, sure.
But trademark infringement is a whole other ball game. Trademark infringement is what Sony, NBC Universal, YouTube, Disney, etc. use and there are slam-dunk cases where they win big. It's the only real recourse against piracy and it works.

You can rip/remove a watermark, but you best be careful if you're removing a trademark.

So if I trademark and pay the money need which I have investors wanting to do so, I am upping the anti. I can take proper legal action if anyone does hack the software and infringe on the trademark? I am uk based but my site will be used in the US extensively. I’m getting right onto this today. Why on earth have onlyfans with al the money they’ve made not trademarked their name/brand?

I don't think that will make any difference. Hollywood movie companies have trademarks too, but their stuff is all over filehosts and torrents.

If (or rather, when) someone does hack the software and steals your videos, you have no way of knowing who the original ripper was anyways even if you do have a watermarking system. Stolen credit card + vpn + free email account. All you can do is go after site owners.

Yes, a trade mark will "protect you", but at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how much money you are willing to spend on litigation (and internationally at that, because the site owner might be in the US, or Romania, or Russia, or Philippines, or might be some BVI shell corporation with a nominee director that doesn't know anything about the site) vs how much money you will actually get out of the site owners that have your content on them. Do you know how much it will cost to run dozens of lawsuits? With no guarantee of payout? You may lose some of the cases, and some of the ones you do win you won't be able to collect anything because the company in question might not have any assets worth chasing or that you can actually locate other then a shitty domain worth $20. In some cases it might not even be the tube site owner's fault the content is on there to begin with - tube site submitters could take your content, watermark it with their own website domain and upload it to various tube sites using tube submission software. The site owner you go after might have had no idea the video was even there. If I cropped 3-4 minutes out of your video and uploaded it to some random tube site it's really not outside the realm of possibility that the site owner would just accept that it's a promo clip for your paysite even if he did manually review every video.

As for torrents? You will spend a fortune even getting the identities of the seeders. In europe do to GDPR no ISP could release you the personal info attached to an IP without a court order. For each and every user your lawyer (from that jurisdiction) would have to arrange these court orders, and even then someone can argue their wifi was open or was hacked.

If the song and dance of that was worth it, Hollywood would be suing tens of thousands of people a month for sharing movies that are clearly copyrighted and piracy would be stopped dead in it's tracks - and their cases would be far more open and shut as it's pretty clear that someone doesn't have rights to upload entire Fast & Furious movies vs some obscure porn movie someone may or may not have rights to.

Why not let the police take care of that? Free of charge. Intelectual property rights are protected by criminal law.

Not every single instance of piracy will be eradicated or pursued by legal means, no. That doesn't eliminate the need for trademark protection/enforcement.

You can choose not to trademark if you deem it to be pointless and unnecessary. Just know that it means you choose to give up the one and only method by which you can legally address infringement...that's somewhat foolish IMO.

I agree with @GUNNER, I am now processing a worldwide copyright, costing thousands. The thing is the company logo watermark is constantly over the screen, just faded. The ip, name and email is unique to every video played, so it will always come up with the persons details, no amount of cropping or effort is going to be worth the time because you’ll end up with a video about 20px x 20px! Have you guys heard of signifyd(dot)com, they are without the most intelligent anti fraud system out there, they claim 100% security in anyone getting through their system with a fraudulent card, based on about 100 protocols they use and I can monitor on each transaction. I used them before and they stopped every fraudulent transaction that was attempted. Before that, I was getting stolen cards used, chargebacks, the lot. I’ve learned a lot about putting things right. I’m a in a very fortunate position to have a legal advisor who works internationally with court orders on copyright infringement. You canny use a VPN on our website. Yes it’s mar deter subscribers, but if these are real fans and their top performers are ready to move over then I’m sure they will follow. They sign a declaration of the software we are running, the terms and conditions require a digital signature for every new subscriber. Maybe it could be a massive failure, but I’m positive I’m doing it as a deterrent and just that but harder than the likes of onlyfans or similar whose performers have to make 1000’s of DMCA’s for uploads daily.

And just to answer @kOnrAd

Hollywood movies don’t watermark their films, they don’t have so much information on a person every time that individual watches a movie. I do. Surely that makes a difference?

If it's that good, you're wasting your time with an onlyfans site. You need to sell this product.

I don’t want to be another only fans, you’ve got people on there with fake accounts making $1000 a week of photos and vids theyve stolen off porn sites. I’m not cash hungry, this site as shallow as it is will only feature the best guys, girls, trans.etc. But at the same time, making it a community based site, where everyone interacts, that’s why it’s called Xclusive :)

But what information do you have? What if someone buys an account with a stolen card, and uses a VPN? What will you watermark to locate this person?

Also hollywood does watermark movies. They watermark workprints, review copies, etc uniquely.

@Konr4d you cannot sign up with a stolen credit card or with an IP address that does not match the residents address. As I stated Signifyd.com guarantee 100% security in any fraudulent transactions. They use a benchmark test if it doesn’t match up, they won’t get through. If it means putting off subscribers, so be it, security and performer security along with a subscriber who knows they are getting unique content not on other sites will ensure the right people are using the fans. And they will become part of a Xclusive club. I have 20 years of experience in membership websites, so I kinda know what I’m doing, but I am literally trying every possible measure I can to get rid of the shitty accounts on onlyfans, my site is for the most talented individuals of which many I already know.

Sounds like alot of effort is being put into this. There are guys who get their hard on from ripping the unrippable. If Netflix , Apple, Amazon and Disney failed to stop ripping, I doubt you'd be able to but I must admit that you've piqued my interest. Widevine is the DRM that the big boys use but this has been bypassed because all their content has been pirated.

Good luck and be sure to announce the platform here when it's launched.

If I seem like I'm coming off as being difficult or something, I apologize - that's not my intention - but...

I've been developing adult sites for 17 years as a programmer - I know what i'm doing and I know alot about this stuff from the technical point of view. A freshly stolen card will go through, because it is no different then you sitting next to me here, handing me your credit card and me entering your card details, or me handing you my credit card and you entering my details. Another scenario - lets say a user signs up with their card, rips your site not giving a shit about the watermarks and then reports their own card stolen when they get the bill? It's not like chargebacks on legit purchases are unheard of in this business either and if you try to litigate against this person the burden of proof is on you to prove they did it, not vice versa.

I'm sure that service helps, but there is no way they are blocking 100% of fraud. It cannot be based solely on ip address matching resident address because ip geolocation is not that exact. Right now my IP geolocates to another city 20km away. If I had a card from Berlin and hooked up to a VPN in Berlin, then my IP would match. If that made a big difference in the fraud score they give that transaction, the only people that could buy from you would be those living in huge cities. Their 100% guarantee is probably backed by the fact that they will cover your losses if something does get through - because what else can they really do in such a situation?

What it boils down to is that - yes - you will make it harder for joe surfer to download your content. However, the real content stealers, the "release groups" that rip entire sites and post them to torrent tracker will make very quick work of whatever DRM you are using, or will rip your site not care about watermarks.

I would be more then happy to check out your system once you have it up and see if I can bypass it.

So, someone using mobile away from home, or a laptop at a hotel would not be able to sign up?

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I can add how exact ip location depend does ISP send such data or not - sometime it shows always ISP business address or division adress, and sometime exact address of user. Tho, since we slowly moving to mobile connections and classic DSL connection might become obsolete in future, then it will be totally impossible to see where is user located. This can be compared to hosting IP whois, where usually ip whois always show hosting as owner, but it can be changed to actual current user.

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I was told the offending 'download memberships' were purchased in the Ukraine with fake CC's. seems like 'user' lawsuits dried up and went nowhere :2 cents:

Only allowing residential IP addresses in may cost you a decent % of sales. We get many subscribers from developing nations who use VPN's due to ISP blocks (and these are legit users with credit cards issued in their home countries and local billing addresses as well). Do you really want to block the many Middle Eastern and South Asian users (yes, many do have CC's now) from accessing your site? That may happen if you block non-residential IP's.

It's commendable that you're going the extra mile to prevent bad actors from gaining access, but you also may be shoehorning yourself into believing all your subscribers are criminals until proven otherwise. Reality is nearly all are good people who just access the site for their own modest needs. Please keep that in mind when working on your own solutions.

I totally understand and appreciate the responses. I have applied for trademarks in countries with in the EU, America’s and Australia. But am prohibiting Some countries yes. Have you used Signifyd? They tracked and stopped every single transaction that proved to be fradulent after it was first accepted by other payment processors first. I’m working with Hackerone-com who use hackers to actual find any vulnerabilities. And I noticed this website steamingvideoprovider(.)com I was able to use a screen recorder right away so their system is useless!

Spending all that time and money to try to fight piracy is 100% useless. You should put that money instead in making a better product for the paying users and marketing/branding.

The solutions described will only be annoying to regular users, and will not stop the pirates.

You have to realize the pirates and the people that visit pirate content sites will not pay for your content anyway, so you are just wasting your time and making a site that is more annoying than it should be.

Like others have said, if Hollywood can't stop it, so can't you. You are wasting your time as well as making the product worse and harder to join for the people that actually are willing to pay.

It's 100% the wrong way to go about this.

Due to the lack of IPV4 space, more ISPs are moving towards NAT where multiple users are on one ip (especially true on mobile networks). Most ISPs require you pay extra for a static ip and many of those won't actually update the whois for the ip either.

I don't know but most probably because it's not worth it.

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