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Originally Posted by k0nr4d
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In this case, it does.
Allow me to elaborate. Yes, we know more now about anatomy and medicine then 1000 years ago. A good movie that illustrates this is The Physician - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2101473/ - it was against religious doctrine to desecrate a body. However, even in those times no one could dispute that there were no more genders then male and female.
The fact that only two genders exist has been established for millions of years. In fact, lets go back. You have your parents, your grand parents, your great grand parents, etc. This goes back forever. Back to when we were neanderthals, back when were monkeys. Even back before that. You are here, because every single entity in your ancestral lineage was able to produce offspring, because every single one of them knew consciously or instinctively that they needed to reproduce with a member of the opposite gender. You can go backwards with this right up until we get to the beginning of mammals.
You are the first generation of a lineage that has been produced by exclusively by males and females since the fucking dawn of mammalian life on earth that believes there are more then two genders. Hundreds of millions of years of evolution that produced exclusively males and females of a million different species, and now, suddenly, in the last few years, it surfaces that there are 70something genders?
If someone wants to be transsexual I'm fine with that. I don't approve of it and I think it's gender dysphoria, but those are my views. I will probably not refer to them by whatever pronouns they decide they want to use, and I will simply "call 'em as I see 'em". If they make a convincing woman *when I first meet them*, i'll call them she, otherwise it's just a man with tits much like the two in the article are just women with beards. What I will not do, is spit in the face of evolution by pandering to made-up genders such as "non-binary".
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correct, every person alive today has a biologically correct mother and biologically correct father. this will continue in the foreseeable future. sure being gay is great fun however there is no future for humanity in it. and at the same time being gay is natural to humanity. always has been and always will be. however for survival of the species heterosexuality is center weighted on the graph with minorities on each end of the graph.
I'm not sure why we have chosen to cosign gender dysphoria as opposed to treatment. these guys are rolling back science 500 years :(
the thing is all this gender bullshit is a 'quality' problems... people being starved and getting murdered for their social or hereditary circumstance don't much care about their dicks and what they should or should not do with it a dick :2 cents:
this is interesting for historical perspective. the inca's. personally I don't think homosexuality has ever been an issue until the last 100-150 years
Age and defining gender
The high infant mortality rates that plagued the Inca Empire caused all newborn infants to be given the term ‘wawa’ when they were born. Most families did not invest very much into their child until they reached the age of two or three years old. Once the child reached the age of three, a "coming of age" ceremony occurred, called the rutuchikuy. For the Incas, this ceremony indicated that the child had entered the stage of "ignorance". During this ceremony, the family would invite all relatives to their house for food and dance, and then each member of the family would receive a lock of hair from the child. After each family member had received a lock, the father would shave the child's head. This stage of life was categorized by a stage of "ignorance, inexperience, and lack of reason, a condition that the child would overcome with time."[40] For Incan society, in order to advance from the stage of ignorance to development the child must learn the roles associated with their gender.
The next important ritual was to celebrate the maturity of a child. Unlike the coming of age ceremony, the celebration of maturity signified the child's sexual potency. This celebration of puberty was called warachikuy for boys and qikuchikuy for girls. The warachikuy ceremony included dancing, fasting, tasks to display strength, and family ceremonies. The boy would also be given new clothes and taught how to act as an unmarried man. The qikuchikuy signified the onset of menstruation, upon which the girl would go into the forest alone and return only once the bleeding had ended. In the forest she would fast, and, once returned, the girl would be given a new name, adult clothing, and advice. This "folly" stage of life was the time young adults were allowed to have sex without being a parent.[40]
Between the ages of 20 and 30, people were considered young adults, "ripe for serious thought and labor."[40] Young adults were able to retain their youthful status by living at home and assisting in their home community. Young adults only reached full maturity and independence once they had married.
At the end of life, the terms for men and women denote loss of sexual vitality and humanity. Specifically, the "decrepitude" stage signifies the loss of mental well-being and further physical decline.
Marriage
In the Incan Empire, the age of marriage differed for men and women: men typically married at the age of 20, while women usually got married about four years earlier at the age of 16.[41] Men who were highly ranked in society could have multiple wives, but those lower in the ranks could only take a single wife.[42] Marriages were typically within classes and resembled a more business-like agreement. Once married, the women were expected to cook, collect food and watch over the children and livestock.[41] Girls and mothers would also work around the house to keep it orderly to please the public inspectors.[43] These duties remained the same even after wives became pregnant and with the added responsibility of praying and making offerings to Kanopa, who was the god of pregnancy.[41] It was typical for marriages to begin on a trial basis with both men and women having a say in the longevity of the marriage. If the man felt that it wouldn't work out or if the woman wanted to return to her parents’ home the marriage would end. Once the marriage was final, the only way the two could be divorced was if they did not have a child together.[41] Marriage within the Empire was crucial for survival. A family was considered disadvantaged if there was not a married couple at the center because everyday life centered around the balance of male and female tasks.[44]
Gender roles
In the eyes of the Inca, male and female roles were considered equal. The "indigenous cultures saw the two genders as complementary parts of a whole."[44] In other words, there was not a hierarchical structure in the domestic sphere for the Incas. Within the domestic sphere, women were known as the weavers. Women's everyday tasks included: spinning, watching the children, weaving cloth, cooking, brewing chichi, preparing fields for cultivation, planting seeds, bearing children, harvesting, weeding, hoeing, herding, and carrying water.[45] Men on the other hand, "weeded, plowed, participated in combat, helped in the harvest, carried firewood, built houses, herded llama and alpaca, and spun and wove when necessary".[45] On looking Spaniards did not understand the complementary nature of men and women roles within the Inca culture and believed women were treated like slaves.[46] However, Inca women did not view themselves as slaves, nor did they do their job for the man. The women completed their daily tasks for the improvement of her household and community, to ensure her family would survive.[45] Furthermore, women were allowed to own land and herds because inheritance was passed down from both the mother's and father's side of the family.[47] Kinship within the Inca society followed a parallel line of descent. In other words, women ascended from women and men ascended from men. Due to the parallel descent, women had access to land and other necessities through her mother, and communities flourished because of the environmental social ties among women.[45]
