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Grapesoda 01-29-2020 08:48 PM

what do you guys think of a flat tax?
 
say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?

sarettah 01-29-2020 10:03 PM

I don't think flat girls should have to pay any more tax then big boobie girls.

Sounds like discrimination to me :mad:

All boobs should be taxed equally!!

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CurrentlySober 01-30-2020 02:50 AM

My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

I would have been COMPLETELY fucked !

TampaToker 01-30-2020 03:31 AM

I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.

Paul Markham 01-30-2020 07:38 AM

Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.

Grapesoda 01-30-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 22601543)
I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.

with this table below you still need to add SSI, Disability and State. at least if I remember correctly, and this is on the net. not the gross. with a flat tax there are no deductions. just a straight %

https://static.businessinsider.sg/20...076d294700.png

Grapesoda 01-30-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22601638)
Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.

https://rippreport.com/wp-content/up...8/06/0-13.jpeg

Shoplifter 01-30-2020 12:23 PM

Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.

artwilliams 01-30-2020 12:42 PM

Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?

CaptainHowdy 01-30-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 22601786)
Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?

:2 cents: . . .

Busty2 01-30-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22601530)
My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

I would have been COMPLETELY fucked !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Snap!

fuzebox 01-30-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22601771)
Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.

I prefer it versus someone arbitrarily deciding how much income is "too much" and needs to be taxed higher (fair share???)... At least america is capped at 37%, many other countries that number just keeps climbing.

slapass 01-30-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22601464)
say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?

The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?

Grapesoda 01-30-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 22601786)
Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?

nope the political area is not for discussion, only there to slander trump :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-30-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22601822)
The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?

it's a mess but some how they always figure it to money the political. the 3 richest counties in American are around Washington DC, an area with no industry except politics :2 cents:

Paul Markham 01-30-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22601651)

Do you want to pay less tax and higher debt? Or see the private sector take over more or just do away with things that go to make a modern civilised country?

Will your flat rate of tax raise what the country needs?

Is the U.S. the Highest Taxed Nation in the World? | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

https://www.crfb.org/sites/default/f...%20Revenue.png

k0nr4d 01-31-2020 02:22 AM

Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd

amcic1998 01-31-2020 09:18 AM

If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes

Paul Markham 02-01-2020 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by amcic1998 (Post 22602220)
If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Grapesoda 02-01-2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22602064)
Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd

what about SSI and disability and 'state' taxes? the last year I made big bucks I paid 53%

Grapesoda 02-01-2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by amcic1998 (Post 22602220)
If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes

don't care for Asia as a place to live, as far as Africa... we already left once :1orglaugh


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