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imediacrew 03-13-2020 04:24 PM
OVH Cloud suspended account and 4 servers
 
Hello everyone, just want to caution you, today OVHcloud was suspended our account without any notice. We just received four emails what our four servers was suspended.
Few hours I was tried to understand wtf. Was sent a lot of emails, call to OVH CA, sent DM to twitter and FB.
After, I was received next email:

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We have received a credible report from US authorities of child sexual abuse material ("CSAM") hosted on your servers. Such illegal content is a violation of Section 7(b) of the OVHcloud Terms of Service and grounds for your immediate termination under Section 9(b) of the Terms of Service.

Due to the severity of the incident, OVHcloud has terminated your account.

As provided in Section 9(c) of the Terms of Service, as a result of your termination, your OVHcloud Services will cease functioning immediately and you will not be able to access any of your user data. All such user data will be destroyed. Due to your failure to comply with the Terms of Service, OVHcloud is under no obligation to extend your ability to access the OVHcloud Services following your termination.

Our decision is final and is not subject to appeal.
So... We are tube aggregator like ixxx com, we are not hosted any videos we just collect and sort links to videos from tubes like xvideos, beeg, xhamster, pornhub etc.

I was asked to show URLs of forbidden content and give us some time to download all data from our servers, but received this answer:

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As provided in our prior email, following the termination of your account for violating the Terms of Service, OVHcloud is not obligated to provide you with access to the data stored on the servers which you had subscribed to. Our decision to terminate your account is final.
Is it okay if hosting provider didn't show you abuse URLs and didn't give you 24 hours to solve problem and terminate your account ?

What we can do? Anyone has OVHCLOUD contacts?

Web Hosting Talk thread webhostingtalk dot com / showthread.php?t=1800892

PornMySex 03-13-2020 04:34 PM
It was hosting your thumbs?

I hope you have a backup.

imediacrew 03-13-2020 04:38 PM
It was our main hosting company, thumbs, DB, back-end and front-end...
All backups also was at this data center and server with backups was terminated.

PornMySex 03-13-2020 04:57 PM
It's not legal to erase all your content like that but you will just waste your time and money suing them.

sarettah 03-13-2020 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by imediacrew (Post 22625549)
So... We are tube aggregator like ixxx com, we are not hosted any videos we just collect and sort links to videos from tubes like xvideos, beeg, xhamster, pornhub etc.
That all sucks but that is one of the dangers of giving your content control over to a third party.

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PornMySex 03-13-2020 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22625570)
That all sucks but that is one of the dangers of giving your content control over to a third party.

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Yes but he is scraping xvideos, pornhub and other major tubes. They control their content.

sarettah 03-13-2020 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PornMySex (Post 22625574)
Yes but he is scraping xvideos, pornhub and other major tubes. They control their content.
But they don't always control it so well, ya know. There have been posts on here about people seeing illegal content on various tubes.

While I would think that the host should check and see if the content was actually hosted on their server, sometimes it just doesn't work like that.

I have the same issue with my cam sites. I have to be concerned that my sponsors are doing their due diligence to ensure that the performers are legal.

Like I say, danger of having a third party control your content.

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imediacrew 03-13-2020 05:22 PM
No one can control it for 100%

PornMySex 03-13-2020 05:24 PM
They still shouldn't have erased all his sites.

If They were hosting a big mainstream tube like dailymotion and someone uploaded illegal content, OVH wouldn't have erased the whole site without notice.

sarettah 03-13-2020 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PornMySex (Post 22625580)
They still shouldn't have erased all his sites.

If They were hosting a big mainstream tube like dailymotion and someone uploaded illegal content, OVH wouldn't have erased the whole site without notice.
I agree totally. That sucks.

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King Mark 03-13-2020 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by imediacrew (Post 22625558)
All backups also was at this data center and server with backups was terminated.
That sucks bro. I would be flipping shit. I hope you (and other readers) learned a valuable lesson here.

My basic rule of thumb is I never keep the domain, hosting & backups of a site at the same company. All 3 have to be in different locations in order for me to sleep well.

Also, back up to personal hard drive.

I don't care about any company's awesome reputation, I'm only throwing one egg in that basket.

shake 03-13-2020 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22625594)
That sucks bro. I would be flipping shit. I hope you (and other readers) learned a valuable lesson here.

My basic rule of thumb is I never keep the domain, hosting & backups of a site at the same company. All 3 have to be in different locations in order for me to sleep well.

Also, back up to personal hard drive.

I don't care about any company's awesome reputation, I'm only throwing one egg in that basket.
Good ideas, also good to keep a backup VPS ready to go and running so you just and to swap the DNS and upgrade the plan handle the bandwidth.

sarettah 03-13-2020 06:46 PM
I found the thread I was looking for. Back a month ago, about a mainstream article discussing illegal content hosted on pornhub.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...cking-wow.html

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22607181)
Phh... All these tube sites have no control over their content. They don't follow 18 U.S. Code § 2257. So what do you expect?

I'll tell you more. Literally 3 or 4 days ago I was walking through tube sites in search for XML feeds, and I've got a popup with a cp site. And that was not a darknet site etc. That was a regular .com site. They were selling videos via a filelocker. I haven't downloaded them of course but I've seen the preview screenlists. The site was reported and now it's gone (that was quick). But I don't know how many such sites are still online and how tube owners must be desperate to earn on such pop-ups. So when the legal adult is dead (it can't be monetized IMHO), the illegal shit literally pops up in the net.

P.S. Yet another example. Was zoo easily available about 10 years ago? Now Google shows it in SERP's left and right. It's not a crime in my country, but in the USA it's barely legal. Just for a note: Google is the US-based company... Sometimes ago fake rape videos were banned by all billing companies. Now kink sells them openly.

That is very scary when the big guys are not handling their due diligence properly and affiliates are embedding those vids into their sites.

That is what it sounds like happened to the OP. Something in one of the feeds was bad enough that the Feds hit OVH up over it.

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iceboi 03-14-2020 01:38 AM
Question is, did ovh give them your info? Are they tracking you down as we speak? Blindly rehosting thumbs was a big mistake.

Klen 03-14-2020 03:51 AM
There is a reason why i promote adult friendly hosts, liike mojohost, vacares and m3server, and this is exactly the reason. Almost every host which is not adult focused will rather kill your server instantly then bother with your explanations.

Klen 03-14-2020 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by iceboi (Post 22625761)
Question is, did ovh give them your info? Are they tracking you down as we speak? Blindly rehosting thumbs was a big mistake.
There is no other way but to "rehost", that is how scrapping tube works. Only way to deal with it is to manually check content before you publish it or to have report button on each thumb, as AWN network have it.

avx 03-14-2020 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22625787)
There is a reason why i promote adult friendly hosts, liike mojohost, vacares and m3server, and this is exactly the reason. Almost every host which is not adult focused will rather kill your server instantly then bother with your explanations.
OVH is adult friendly, since they started in the business.
They are just too big to bother wasting time with explanation.
CP suspicion = account termination, period.

Klen 03-14-2020 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by avx (Post 22625793)
OVH is adult friendly, since they started in the business.
They are just too big to bother wasting time with explanation.
CP suspicion = account termination, period.
Adult friendly it means they understand is it something ok or not. In this case is just "adult tolerant"

ladida 03-14-2020 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22625795)
Adult friendly it means they understand is it something ok or not. In this case is just "adult tolerant"
No host is going to keep you alive once they get the notice from the big man. Especially not "adult" hosts. You can be sure about that. They also aren't going to bother with your explanations. Once you draw attention from the feds you're gone.

plsureking 03-14-2020 03:09 PM
"credible report from US authorities" doesn't necessarily mean fed gov. it could simply mean someone at pornhub who doesn't like your site. they have a long history of wiping out good people in this industry...

:2 cents:
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ladida 03-14-2020 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22626076)
"credible report from US authorities" doesn't necessarily mean fed gov. it could simply mean someone at pornhub who doesn't like your site. they have a long history of wiping out good people in this industry...

:2 cents:
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I don't know how much you dealt with fraud (be it cc banging/dmca hosts/illegal content) but no one gives a flying rat's ass unless you either subpoena them or a gov agency is in play. Im talking outside US hosts/vpn's. OVH hosted so much crap over the years, it did not become so popular because it was killing shady content on someone's email, you had to have damn good footprint to make it stick with them.
Actually i still think ovh and kimsufi are probably hosting biggest amount of torrent/seedboxes out there.

Klen 03-15-2020 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 22626015)
No host is going to keep you alive once they get the notice from the big man. Especially not "adult" hosts. You can be sure about that. They also aren't going to bother with your explanations. Once you draw attention from the feds you're gone.
By that logic top tube sites would be gone long time ago.

lezinterracial 03-15-2020 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22626267)
By that logic top tube sites would be gone long time ago.
Don't the big sites pretty much own or control their hosting company?
I really don't know.

ladida 03-15-2020 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22626267)
By that logic top tube sites would be gone long time ago.
No. Top tube sites don't have cp. I wonder why...

Do a test, upload banned content, then upload some normal porn. See how long each lasts.

celandina 03-15-2020 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imediacrew (Post 22625549)
Hello everyone,........

We have received a credible report from US authorities of child sexual abuse material ("CSAM") hosted on your servers. Such illegal content is a violation of Section 7(b) of the OVHcloud Terms of Service and grounds for your immediate termination under Section 9(b) of the Terms of Service.

So... We are tube aggregator like ixxx com, we are not hosted any videos we just collect and sort links to videos from tubes like xvideos, beeg, xhamster, pornhub etc.
This is an EXCUSE of all pirates and thieves. WE do NOT host anything, we just fucking steal it ! It is NOT our fault !! Good riddance, stop complaining and mainly stop stealing !

You would have NO clue how many times we got: " We do not host any of your videos", when we sent DMCA to thieves. So :321GFY

Klen 03-15-2020 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 22626360)
No. Top tube sites don't have cp. I wonder why...

Do a test, upload banned content, then upload some normal porn. See how long each lasts.
Only way to make that working is to check for docs of each upload. Since that is not done, every upload could be illegal.

sarettah 03-15-2020 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 22626360)
Do a test, upload banned content Then wait for the knock on your door.
Fixed it for you :thumbsup

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ladida 03-15-2020 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22626429)
Only way to make that working is to check for docs of each upload. Since that is not done, every upload could be illegal.
No it's not rofl.
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22626461)
Fixed it for you :thumbsup
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haha, well, that's partly true as well :)

imediacrew 03-16-2020 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22626389)
This is an EXCUSE of all pirates and thieves. WE do NOT host anything, we just fucking steal it ! It is NOT our fault !! Good riddance, stop complaining and mainly stop stealing !

You would have NO clue how many times we got: " We do not host any of your videos", when we sent DMCA to thieves. So :321GFY
We have DMCA forms on all our sites and remove content without any investigations. Just if you don't like the thumb, you can send request and we will remove it asap. Receiving a lot of DMCAs daily and all of them was solved. So :321GFY too.

We still have not received any answers from OVH team.
Still not saw text of abuse and URLs of "illegal" content.

If anyone have any OVH contacts (not regular support) please DM me.

Thanks

celandina 03-16-2020 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by imediacrew (Post 22626869)
We have DMCA forms on all our sites and remove content without any investigations. Just if you don't like the thumb, you can send request and we will remove it asap. Receiving a lot of DMCAs daily and all of them was solved. So :321GFY too.

We still have not received any answers from OVH team.
Still not saw text of abuse and URLs of "illegal" content.

If anyone have any OVH contacts (not regular support) please DM me.

Thanks
DMCA is NOT a cover for thievery. But I am done here !

Holy Damage 03-28-2020 11:03 AM
That's one of the reasons that I dont have "teen sites"...


BTW, how you guys are handling with your backups? any recommendation? Downloading everything to a HD is painful and this can take hours

ZENRA 03-28-2020 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22635808)
That's one of the reasons that I dont have "teen sites"...


BTW, how you guys are handling with your backups? any recommendation? Downloading everything to a HD is painful and this can take hours
Most hosts should be doing backups as well. On top of that, always have a server at an additional host located somewhere far away from your main one that you also make regular backups too.

SekobA 03-28-2020 12:45 PM
Depends how they see this statement..My FB account got suspended becouse i had picture on a beach with my 3 yearsold daughter was top half naked

trevesty 03-28-2020 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22626076)
"credible report from US authorities" doesn't necessarily mean fed gov. it could simply mean someone at pornhub who doesn't like your site. they have a long history of wiping out good people in this industry...

:2 cents:
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What kind of childish, conspiracy theory BS is this? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

trevesty 03-28-2020 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22626267)
By that logic top tube sites would be gone long time ago.
Top tube sites have in house legal teams, or at the very least an in-house general counsel.

Comparing some small site with 1-2 man team to companies with hundreds of employees and millions monthly in revenue makes total sense. :winkwink:

trevesty 03-28-2020 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22626429)
Only way to make that working is to check for docs of each upload. Since that is not done, every upload could be illegal.
It's almost like huge tube sites have massive data sets and they could write a script to test against that database.

It's amazing how little some of you know, but always always offering your input. :1orglaugh

celandina 03-29-2020 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by imediacrew (Post 22626869)
We have DMCA forms on all our sites and remove content without any investigations.
You should NOT have such stolen content in the first place. But that is for another discussion. :2 cents:

Markul 03-29-2020 11:44 PM
This sucks. Hopefully this will teach people a lesson about OVH and stay the fuck away from them.

trevesty 03-30-2020 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 22636997)
This sucks. Hopefully this will teach people a lesson about OVH and stay the fuck away from them.
I host two quite large tubes there without issue across 13 servers. :winkwink:

Like others have said, get a report from the authorities about CP and you're pretty fucked. No smart host is going to risk their entire infrastructure or their name in the press attached to those words over a couple hundred bucks.


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