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Grapesoda 03-30-2020 05:56 AM

camera vrs phone
 
https://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-dslr-1092953/

I keep telling you guys just use a phone to produce content :2 cents:

cezar78 03-30-2020 06:37 AM

Samsung takes incredible photos

ilnjscb 03-30-2020 07:09 AM

iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better

celandina 03-30-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22637133)
https://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-dslr-1092953/

I keep telling you guys just use a phone to produce content :2 cents:

Yes, the pictures are nice BUT ALL are either exteriors or daytime in in rooms with big windows. I would like to see a comparison at night or lit interior. Yes, you can somewhat zoom but since there are no lenses to speak of, you are just shooting everything wide or with distorted close ups...

Also the extra "gack" you need can run into thousands... BUT hey what do I know, I still shoot on an old RED..:2 cents:

Grapesoda 03-30-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22637160)
iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better

that's because you use an iphone. iphone is no comparison to a samsung camera :2 cents:

Grapesoda 03-30-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22637196)
Yes, the pictures are nice BUT ALL are either exteriors or daytime in in rooms with big windows. I would like to see a comparison at night or lit interior. Yes, you can somewhat zoom but since there are no lenses to speak of, you are just shooting everything wide or with distorted close ups...

Also the extra "gack" you need can run into thousands... BUT hey what do I know, I still shoot on an old RED..:2 cents:

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=5EA613FB

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMt4OfYVAAE0tv3?format=jpg

shot in the almost dark, a bit OFF because I didn't use a stand

NatalieK 03-30-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22637160)
iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better


nothing on the new Samsung s20 ultra, with 100x zoom and over 100 mb 8k images :2 cents:

candyflip 03-30-2020 10:31 AM

Not a fan of super small sensor video, myself.

Grapesoda 03-30-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 22637375)
Not a fan of super small sensor video, myself.

me either however once you realize the customer is usually viewing on a phone... it's not a big deal

celandina 03-31-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22637227)

OK good, now take the same night picture with a standard "lens" and then zoom in 50 % and 80 % and you may have me convinced at least for the exteriors :thumbsup

Lexi BongaCash 03-31-2020 09:14 AM

At least phone is always with you. For example, if you something amazing on the street, you may not have your camera with you. But phone...

ilnjscb 03-31-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22637224)
that's because you use an iphone. iphone is no comparison to a samsung camera :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22637331)
nothing on the new Samsung s20 ultra, with 100x zoom and over 100 mb 8k images :2 cents:

Really? I stuck with iPhone out of habit, but the new Samsung is better than DSLR? I read some analysis that said that iPhone was comparable, but I'm sure there are pros on here that know for sure.

Grapesoda 03-31-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22638164)
OK good, now take the same night picture with a standard "lens" and then zoom in 50 % and 80 % and you may have me convinced at least for the exteriors :thumbsup

these are full wide uncropped shots, no zoom :2 cents:

Grapesoda 03-31-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22638316)
Really? I stuck with iPhone out of habit, but the new Samsung is better than DSLR? I read some analysis that said that iPhone was comparable, but I'm sure there are pros on here that know for sure.

for years I've shot against iphones with my samsung phone because many many models have iphones. iphones produce shit images comparatively. my daughter has a new iphone, she is SO IMPRESSED with the camera because now the images are similar to a samsung, not the newest samsung, just a samsung.

you'll never get DSLR performance out of 'cell phone' lenses however most people can't get DSLR performance out a DSLR and most people can't see the difference between a DSLR and a phone. and if the images are done correctly in post, shooting the proper subject I can't either. most certainly for facebook/twitter pics.

so for 95% of people a phone shoots as good as a DSLR.

celandina 04-01-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22638344)
these are full wide uncropped shots, no zoom :2 cents:

No zoom ( or different lenses) produces a "rank amateur" content. Good for skateboarding gags and exterior family shots. Not for real productions.

We usually use 30 to 150 mm zoom lens, plus a fix set of primes

But thanks for the info.

Grapesoda 04-01-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22638954)
No zoom ( or different lenses) produces a "rank amateur" content. Good for skateboarding gags and exterior family shots. Not for real productions.

We usually use 30 to 150 mm zoom lens, plus a fix set of primes

But thanks for the info.

I had a 2 17-35 2.8, 3 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 105 2.8, 35 1.4, 58 2.8, 60 macro 2.8 and a 200 2.0. I was a professional photographer for 30 years. I lit film and TV for almost 20 years, local 728, international 600 and DGA for a few years. all studio except maybe 3-5 location shots. game shows, talk shows, sitcoms and infomercials. I worked in maybe 6-7 films in that time. (running man, father of the bride, jack frost, alien 3 or 4, the one with Winona Ryder and I lit live news for about 4-5 years at a number 2 market... i.e news in LA. didn't really care for TV or film to be honest about it... don't really care for the people :2 cents:

celandina 04-02-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22639013)
I had a 2 17-35 2.8, 3 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 105 2.8, 35 1.4, 58 2.8, 60 macro 2.8 and a 200 2.0. I was a professional photographer for 30 years. I lit film and TV for almost 20 years, local 728, international 600 and DGA for a few years. all studio except maybe 3-5 location shots. game shows, talk shows, sitcoms and infomercials. I worked in maybe 6-7 films in that time. (running man, father of the bride, jack frost, alien 3 or 4, the one with Winona Ryder and I lit live news for about 4-5 years at a number 2 market... i.e news in LA. didn't really care for TV or film to be honest about it... don't really care for the people :2 cents:

I also have mainstream production history, not with big studios as you, but as an independent. Maybe you could have gaffed some of my movies :thumbsup So, we have some understanding in common :thumbsup

ilnjscb 04-02-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22638350)
for years I've shot against iphones with my samsung phone because many many models have iphones. iphones produce shit images comparatively. my daughter has a new iphone, she is SO IMPRESSED with the camera because now the images are similar to a samsung, not the newest samsung, just a samsung.

you'll never get DSLR performance out of 'cell phone' lenses however most people can't get DSLR performance out a DSLR and most people can't see the difference between a DSLR and a phone. and if the images are done correctly in post, shooting the proper subject I can't either. most certainly for facebook/twitter pics.

so for 95% of people a phone shoots as good as a DSLR.

Appreciated. I understand the DSLR fairly well, obviously not at your level. As some have stated here, the lenses and accessories available are what can make the difference. I note that ALL the Getty (many of whom just got let go) guys still have DSLR and many have the latest models, so there must be at least $10k worth of value there.

Grapesoda 04-02-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22639667)
I also have mainstream production history, not with big studios as you, but as an independent. Maybe you could have gaffed some of my movies :thumbsup So, we have some understanding in common :thumbsup

yes we do...

Grapesoda 04-02-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22639740)
Appreciated. I understand the DSLR fairly well, obviously not at your level. As some have stated here, the lenses and accessories available are what can make the difference. I note that ALL the Getty (many of whom just got let go) guys still have DSLR and many have the latest models, so there must be at least $10k worth of value there.

I hope to get another DSLR, the Nikon D6 with some nice glass, long and short primes and maybe 1 zoom... my fav to shoot is the 'face'. have 'art' stuff in mind and I might shoot some weird 'david lynch' vids with long glass

ilnjscb 04-02-2020 12:56 PM

D6 $6500 for the body, and another fat stack for the team


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