23 died in Norway after vaccination
 

Src: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/...os-de-svakeste

they were all 80yr+

Food for thought: every single person who got the smallpox vaccine later died.

NO most in the landslide and a few in car accidents :1orglaugh

So were most of the COVID victims :2 cents:

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I'm not sure what exactly is "really controversial" about that? He was pointing out that everyone that died from the vaccine was 80+, and i'm pointing out that most people that die of covid to begin with are 80+. This is verifiable, factual information, and not 'controversial' :thumbsup

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...th-by-age.html

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

Have it your way. :thumbsup

indeed. :2 cents: :pimp

We're all adults here, for the most part. Business is business, opinions are opinions.

You can't trust Vikings.
They have weird immune systems.
Too much fish in their diets.
I watch HBO so I know.

COVID-19 also kills 80+. So that's not an argument.

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Current overall deaths: 2 million

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

without the 100k Russia was hiding and meanwhile admitted to

Idiot. :warning

Damn Vikings!

For saying most covid victims are over 80 ??

Which they are...

how many died before? that's the real statement :2 cents:

That’s sissy homo talk

2 million died on planet Earth during the pandemic or COVID-19. 2 millions... of 7.7 billions. For example, Spanish flu has killed about 50 millions and that was not a global world we live in. I mean a world when today you are in Moscow, tomorrow in NYC and after-tomorrow in Sidney...

The article itself says "We do not see anything alarming with these figures. All deaths are in elderly and frail people with underlying diseases, says Madsen."

These are older people with underlying health conditions to begin with... Chances are they would have died with or without the vaccine.

and 8million people died from hunger last year :disgust

The same thing we heard about whose 2 millions who died of COVID-19. They mostly are older people with underlying health conditions... Chances are they would have died with or without COVID-19.

Agreed.

There's plenty of people on here I would not be friends with but have done business with because they are just good at what they do, and I'm smart enough to know the difference.

But do you think at this point (if they could)...they are like...damn wish I took my chances?

My 79-year-old Uncle just got it. So far so good. He has been very healthy for the past few years and still works full time at lowes so, if it fucks him up....I will 100% blame it on the vaccine.

People should stop having sex if they can't afford to feed their babies. Why is this such a hard concept.

3.1 million children die from hunger a year. Every 10 seconds a child dies from lacking basic nutrients.

My 91 yr. old grandma, mom and I survived it.
grandma was in bed for 10 days because of it, its all about your immune system, eat healthy and active, at least walks every day.

be a few years before covid catches up with you germans :2 cents:

how did you do?

Yes, exactly, I bought a script today from that noted trouble-maker Konrad of Mechbunny fame.

its strange pandemic when not patients look for the doctors, but doctors look for patients, and to check if you are healthy or not you have to pay XXx USD for "PCR TEST".

also, stats can be manipulated, but what really can not, is the total number of deaths in previous year.
Its higher yes, but in Poland at least, around 60 % of "higher than usual deaths" are NOT from covid, but from denied access to the healthcare ("because of covid").
Also, overall these "higher" numbers are not that alarming like during the times of REAL pandemic. because its not.

so its like Auschwitz - people did it to themselves!

However I always had low ratings of humanity and collective human intelligence, but this time even these rankings tanked to the all the time low:1orglaugh
wtf happened to the people and this planet if there are so many pussies living here and so many idiots:winkwink::winkwink:
also, wtf happened to the good old flu??? all diseases magically disappear, now its covid-only... biggest hoax of the last decades, fueled by the idiocy of the people

If these people are total idiots and they decide to buy some shitty and overpriced software instead of a good one just because they don't like the author as a person then... Aliyah brother! For example I, as a software developer here (see sig), will be very happy to know that they those have never bought my license, because having a clinic imbecile among your customers is a real pain in the ass which doesn't cost any money. I believe that k0nr4d feels the same.

I bet almost everybody in this thread had COVID-19 already... at least once. Almost everybody who I know in person were tested positive. Others who believe they had no COVID-19 just never tested at all and I'm one of these. I believe we with my wife had it twice during a year, but we haven't tested because the result doesn't change anything. My mom was 79 when she was tested positive (two days in bad coughing and she was ok again). My sister was tested positive, her husband was tested positive too (both had a rather heavy form of the sickness). Their friends were tested positive, but their son haven't tested at all, but he lives with his parents in the same apartments. I think he also got it but just didn't notice.

P.S. A cat of my sister hasn't survived COVID-19 unfortunately. A boy has died :(

There is no getting "upset" in business so I see no reason to avoid working with someone because of some political beliefs. PHP code works the same regardless if you are left or right wing. None the less, like you said... meh, if someone wants to use a different or worse product then so be it - their loss. Childish behavior like that in business reflects more poorly on them then the fact that they have some opposing view point.

We most likely had it in February - we all got SUPER sick. Fever for 4 days, coughing for months. Diagnosed as viral pneumonia. This was a month before first covid case in Poland. Since then, I've caught a couple of colds and had a few hour fever once when kids started back up in school. My wife is an orthodontist and digs in 30 mouths every day, I have 2 kids, tons of parents of other kids in those classes had confirmed covid. We are since then not sick despite having very frequent exposure for sure suggesting we already had it and have some immunity. Everyone in office got sick around same time and not one person from our team has caught covid - "officially" at least.

I would not inject some rubbish into myself. And I advise you not

You didn't get my point. I also don't care about race, sexual orientation, political preferences, hobbies, fetishes and other personal aspects of customers. I just said that I don't want to have idiots among them. I mean the clinically stupid people. So if someone decided to buy or or not to buy a product just because he likes or hates the author, he is an idiot by default. If he is acting like an idiot when he's choosing a product to buy depending only on personal properties of the developer, he will stay an idiot forever and he will pull your soul out with all the same questions he asks every day just because "he is too smart to read the manual, which is written for losers of course".

comrade, you finally managed to put out the advanced manual somewhere?
what is the link ?
:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

Finally??? :eek7

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The left in a nutshell in a couple of sentences. Have a different opinion from me and your business will be hurt. Basically bullying censorship. How folk that are not on the left or right of politics can look at things like that and not oppose it make me dumbfounded

My wife just got her second vaccine shot yesterday and I'm scheduled for my first vaccine shot in another week. I'm old enough to remember kids with polio. Darwinism loves anti-vaxxers. A person is entitled to make their own decisions about their health, they can live or die with that decision.

Let's see the results after few months. To early to go with predictions and analysis

Good, I was only in bed for 2 days, same for my siblings that are the same age range.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Why is it that people who happen to be skeptical of this particular vaccine are labelled as (stupid) anti-vaxxers?

Part of the problem in our discourse is that if you have any skepticism or any differing opinion on whatever the government and mainstream media tells you, you are labelled as some form of idiotic or reprehensible human being?

They have us at each other's throats and we are falling for it time and again.

I am very pro vaccine but am cautious about this one as it has been rushed. Doesn't mean I won't take it one day but why is it so bad to say I want to gather more data, evaluate it more and based on that may or may not take it? If I decide I don't want it after my own evaluation process I will be labelled "one of them."

So there is no room for discussion or rational discourse. It's you believe what we tell you to believe or we will label you as "bad" and won't even care to listen to your side of the story.

That is the real crime in this pandemic. Shutting down thought, discussion and perspective.

Instead of thinking only of yourself, why don't you look at it from the point of view that you might want to help protect others? How bad do you think the vaccine could be compared to the actual viral infection? To you, your family, your friends and others that interact with you? There are only those that are for the vaccine and those against, and they are necessarily called anti-vaxxers. It's like wearing a mask, it isn't about you, it's about everybody.

So what you're saying is that people shouldn't make the best decision for themselves and their families. They should do something they may not agree with and take risks they don't want to take for the "possibility" of perhaps making someone else's life better?

= sacrifice self for others.

Isn't that something that people could at least discuss? I'm not even saying the vaccine is bad either.

Cmon now. So someone rushes a vaccine and now you're dictating that the only possible positions that people can take are to be "for" or "against" it completely? Nobody is allowed (in your world) to see pros and cons, to voice criticisms (something that science actually counts on to get things right) or to see both sides of the equation?

A person either agrees with you or they are your enemy?

Again, can we at least discuss how to best go about implementing mask use? Or no? It's again, "do it your way or we'll brand you a reprehensible person.


Your thoughts most reflect a socialist dictator's - sacrifice yourself and do and think as I say or else. The exact opposite of a democratic and open society that tolerates opinion and even welcomes opposing viewpoints.

I disagree with you 200%. They keep saying that they don't know if the vaccine prevents YOU from spreading it, which means you taking it does not help others. It can only potentially help you, or it can harm you. There are already a lot of stories of people being crippled, killed, or otherwise harmed. If the vaccine was completely safe, they wouldn't have been released of all liability for it - and that right there should strike a red flag. No liability is a great way to run a business - you get to capitalize all profits, while socializing all risks.

I am not against vaccines, I am against THIS vaccine.

I can't speak on how it is in Europe, but in the USA we are on our way to a half million dead. Use of a mask is common sense, there is no good argument about not using one. A vaccine is something we don't have time to fully vet. If you don't want to take one, so what? Why even bring it up? What do you think this vaccine is going to do to you? The argument for it is being made by scientists, smart people whom I personally trust. I'm going to get a vaccine and I'm going to wear a mask. I'm no longer worried about anyone else's opinion. I'm going to look out for myself and my family and I'm going to stay away from people who don't take the vaccine and wear a mask. I guess I'd say it's pretty black and white with what we all know. So you all can do what you want and make whatever point it is you're trying to make. It just makes me think you don't realize just how nasty COVID-19 really is. Good luck.

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https://www.who.int/indonesia/news/d...id-19-outbreak

if you feel threatened by covid, go ahead, take the vaccine..as many as you like.
I dont deny it to you.
but why force it on others? you will be protected by your own vaccine (according to your thinking, which is wrong, at least when it goes to mRna vaccines), so why you should care about people that did not take it?

masks are useless (unless you and others walk 24/7 in hazmat suits) and even harmful, this is huge psy op,conditioning people (for long period) for conformity and vaccines. nothing else.

Also, "trusted" WHO changed recently their "herd immunity" definition, now its all about vaccinating enough of people. Before was about people getting natural immunity.
very interesting, but not so much, if you know that...The biggest contributor to WHO are the Gates' foundations (Gates+Gavi), even bigger than the WHOLE USA (when it was paying to WHO). And its no brainer what kind of agenda these foundations have.

Well, the problem is exactly with these scientists, smart people and "trust the science". We've heard masks work, we've heard masks don't work, we've heard they work as long as you socially distance, we've heard it doesn't affect kids, we've heard it does affect kids, we've heard you can get it twice, we've heard you can't get it twice. We've heard lockdowns work, and we've seen
research showing lockdowns make no difference at all. We've heard dozens of contradicting things from scientists and researchers. It's far, far from black and white. I can link you to contradicting information from scientists on any of the above topics.

Some of what you have said is simply illogical. If you are getting the vaccine, and your family is getting it, then why stay away from people that haven't gotten the vaccine? Why keep away from people with no masks? Don't say it's because the vaccine isn't 100% effective - that's not really an argument given that they don't know if the vaccine will stop someone from spreading covid meaning that if it's ineffective, you are potentially just as likely to catch it.

If you want to take the vaccine, go for it - but it seems like a stupid risk to take if you are going to behave exactly the same as unvaccinated. I won't take it - at least until long term effects are known and until then I would rather covid then the vaccine. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.