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Retiree 07-02-2022 12:15 PM

Adult billing recommendations?
 
I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.

baddog 07-02-2022 12:28 PM

MobiusPay.com

Retiree 07-02-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 23017765)
MobiusPay.com

Thanks! 👍

avx 07-03-2022 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23017763)
I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.

Dialxs.com. Dutch company in the business for ages and has tons of alternate/local billng methods

kuprum 07-03-2022 02:16 AM

Segpay.com

TheDani 07-03-2022 02:39 AM

https://www.probiller.com/

Retiree 07-03-2022 06:31 AM

Thanks, keep them coming! 👍

fuzebox 07-03-2022 09:38 AM

Curious, why wouldn't you want to use the biggest companies who have been around the longest?

Retiree 07-04-2022 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23018059)
Curious, why wouldn't you want to use the biggest companies who have been around the longest?

I do use them...but there is always room for improvement.

NETbilling 07-06-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23017763)
I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.

We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

Let us know if we can assist.

Thanks, Mitch

Retiree 07-06-2022 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 23019211)
We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

Let us know if we can assist.

Thanks, Mitch

Hi Mitch,

I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.

fuzebox 07-07-2022 09:08 AM

I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

https://www.cashtocode.com/

https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/

NatalieMojoHost 07-07-2022 09:29 AM

Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.

NETbilling 07-07-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23019234)
Hi Mitch,

I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.

I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.

Retiree 07-08-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 23019460)
I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.

Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods. :)

Retiree 07-08-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23019409)
I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

https://www.cashtocode.com/

https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/


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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost (Post 23019413)
Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.

Thanks! :thumbsup

NETbilling 07-11-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23019769)
Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods. :)

I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.

Retiree 07-12-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 23020909)
I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.

US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.

$tandaman 07-13-2022 02:29 AM

CentroBill has a ton of alternative options including crypto.

Klen 07-13-2022 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23021013)
US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.

Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.

plsureking 07-13-2022 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23021013)
US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.

i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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Retiree 07-13-2022 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23021343)
Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.

Yes and that works in all of the EU now, its simpler for most people, as they have a bank app on their phone and can pay easily, without even looking for a cc.

Retiree 07-13-2022 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23021344)
i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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Correct! Endless amount of new customers if handled right.

Retiree 07-13-2022 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman (Post 23021342)
CentroBill has a ton of alternative options including crypto.

Email sent. 👍

XMerchant 07-13-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23017763)
I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.

If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!

robmcc 07-14-2022 02:08 AM

Cash payments you have cash2code, Neosurf & paysafecard

In LATAM you could look at Safetypay

Retiree 07-14-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by robmcc (Post 23021592)
Cash payments you have cash2code, Neosurf & paysafecard

In LATAM you could look at Safetypay

Thanks! 👍

Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?

NETbilling 07-14-2022 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XMerchant (Post 23021551)
If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!

You should partner with us for your direct merchant account gateway setups. Authnet and Plugnpay provide NONE of the specialized tools, features and functionality that adult merchants need. Feel free to hit me up directly or contact our VP of sales Wendy Nelson to become a NETbilling Partner.

Thanks, Mitch

CashtoCode_Gio 07-15-2022 03:22 AM

Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

We are available with our alternative solutions, get in touch and we'll inform.

Cheers
Giovanni

Retiree 07-15-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CashtoCode_Gio (Post 23021898)
Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

We are available with our alternative solutions, get in touch and we'll inform.

Cheers
Giovanni

Done. :thumbsup

ZENRA 07-15-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23021744)
Thanks! 👍

Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?

I'm also interested in this.

ZENRA 07-15-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 23021824)
You should partner with us for your direct merchant account gateway setups. Authnet and Plugnpay provide NONE of the specialized tools, features and functionality that adult merchants need. Feel free to hit me up directly or contact our VP of sales Wendy Nelson to become a NETbilling Partner.

Thanks, Mitch


I'm still waiting on when NB will add in velocity controls. Feel free to check my email exchange with tech support about this. Authorize.net and I'm sure many other gateways offer it: https://recdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...activate-them-

Basil CashtoCode 07-19-2022 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23019409)
I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

https://www.cashtocode.com/

https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/

Thanks for the mention @fuzebox

Basil CashtoCode 07-19-2022 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23021744)
Thanks! 👍

Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?

Yes India in INR and USD via the open loop eVouhcer. NO CB risks

Retiree 07-22-2022 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil CashtoCode (Post 23023532)
Yes India in INR and USD via the open loop eVouhcer. NO CB risks

Thanks. Can you recommend some provider who can take care of the technical stuff and provide a gateway for online payments? Needs to accept adult, obviously. :)

EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol

Basil CashtoCode 07-22-2022 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23024378)
Thanks. Can you recommend some provider who can take care of the technical stuff and provide a gateway for online payments? Needs to accept adult, obviously. :)

EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol

Let's take this discussion to Skype and find the best way to move this forward mate.

Retiree 07-22-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Basil CashtoCode (Post 23024389)
Let's take this discussion to Skype and find the best way to move this forward mate.

We will definitely talk next week! 👍

kuprum 08-25-2022 09:58 AM

eMerchant Broker


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