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mopek1 06-16-2023 07:35 AM

Bing & Yahoo not Returning Result for my Site by Name
 
They both were yesterday.

When I type in my site/domain name, those 2 SEs used to give me my site. Now they show sites that are barely related and are non-adult.

If I type in my domain.com it still doesn't return my site.

If I type in http domain .com it finally does. (Which surfer is going to do that?)

BTW, safesearch is off.

If I go to Google and misspell my site it returns my site. So Y & B are doing something purposely.

This could just be an anomaly with my site. But I've been hearing about others in similar situations on other forums.

I've been saying for years, the SEs are trying to minimize adult, as much as they possibly can, but not so much as to alienate their adult surfers - lest they lose money. Years ago they used to show more mainstream terms for adult searches, and then in 2018 they stopped doing that and we all experienced a boom of G traffic again. But for awhile they've been going back to their old ways, pretending to have morals, virtue signalling but really caring only about the bottom line. Not judging them for doing what they can to make money, only the hypocrisy in public relations.

Anyone else experiencing this with Y and B?

WiredGuy 06-16-2023 09:07 AM

I've noticed that Bing has been very hit and miss as to what's considered adult. Doing a search for site:domain.com on my sites that has explicit descriptions I find gets just the home page indexed and nothing else. Very mainstream themed sites (ie: sugar daddy), every single page is indexed. There's no in between, it seems to be all or just the homepage.
WG

TurboB 06-16-2023 09:13 AM

Bing very like to not index sites for non-existing errors, or if site gets indexed - de-index it for no reason.

$5 submissions 06-18-2023 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23145461)
I've noticed that Bing has been very hit and miss as to what's considered adult. Doing a search for site:domain.com on my sites that has explicit descriptions I find gets just the home page indexed and nothing else. Very mainstream themed sites (ie: sugar daddy), every single page is indexed. There's no in between, it seems to be all or just the homepage.
WG

I get better and more comprehensive listings of my pages in Bing's index when I do a site:domain search for my mainstream sites.

I made sure page descriptions and titles are unique enough from each other.

mopek1 06-19-2023 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23145461)
I've noticed that Bing has been very hit and miss as to what's considered adult. Doing a search for site:domain.com on my sites that has explicit descriptions I find gets just the home page indexed and nothing else. Very mainstream themed sites (ie: sugar daddy), every single page is indexed. There's no in between, it seems to be all or just the homepage.
WG

Yeah, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why index just the homepage? Either you have a criteria for what you show and index in your results or you don't.

Either way, I hope this war against adult from the SE's switches back one day.

TheLegacy 06-19-2023 04:49 AM

Indexing: Ensure that your website is indexed by search engines. Submit your website's sitemap to Bing Webmaster Tools and Yahoo Site Explorer to help search engines discover and crawl your site.

Content relevancy: Make sure your website's content is relevant to the search query. Optimize your website's on-page elements, such as title tags, meta descriptions, and headers, to accurately represent your site's content.

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Backlinks: Build high-quality backlinks from reputable websites to improve your site's authority and visibility in search results. Backlinks can positively impact your website's rankings on both Bing and Yahoo.

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Technical issues: Check for any technical issues that might be preventing search engines from crawling or indexing your site properly. Ensure that your website is free from any crawl errors, broken links, or other technical issues that could impact search engine visibility.

Patience: It's important to note that search engine rankings take time to improve. It may take several weeks or even months for your website to appear prominently in search results. Continually monitor and optimize your site to increase its visibility over time.

It's worth mentioning that Bing and Yahoo share the same underlying search technology, as Yahoo's search results are powered by Bing. Therefore, changes in Bing's algorithms and ranking factors can also impact Yahoo search results.

zijlstravideo 06-19-2023 03:22 PM

Bing indexes adult sites with no problem, even includes featured snippets which contain explicit adult content, also shows clickable subheadings, indexes images etc.

I see no difference compared to mainstream whatsoever... :error

Either the pages and/or domain itself are too new and you'll need to have some patience.
That, or the content is considered low quality.

Focus 06-19-2023 04:30 PM

I'd recommend hitting up Bing's support team. They might take a while to get back to you, but they actually read through everything and help out. I faced the same kind of issue and they sorted it for me. Since they share their result with Yahoo, DuckDuckGo ect it might be worth it for you to do so. Here's the link just incase https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help...pport-24ab5ebf. Good Luck 🤞

mopek1 06-19-2023 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus (Post 23146299)
I'd recommend hitting up Bing's support team. They might take a while to get back to you, but they actually read through everything and help out. I faced the same kind of issue and they sorted it for me. Since they share their result with Yahoo, DuckDuckGo ect it might be worth it for you to do so. Here's the link just incase https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help...pport-24ab5ebf. Good Luck 🤞

Thanks. I'll do just that.

Like WiredGuy said, they index very little. I have an older site with over 20,000 pages that only has 44 indexed. If I search my exact site + the name of one of my pages then I will get that page. So it seems most of pages are not indexed when I try a site:domain.com but then if I search the domain + a page name it seems that much of my site is.

I still feel that they are trying hard to show mainstream results for adult terms.

WiredGuy 07-30-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus (Post 23146299)
I'd recommend hitting up Bing's support team. They might take a while to get back to you, but they actually read through everything and help out. I faced the same kind of issue and they sorted it for me. Since they share their result with Yahoo, DuckDuckGo ect it might be worth it for you to do so. Here's the link just incase https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help...pport-24ab5ebf. Good Luck 🤞

I tried this suggestion after you posted it. It took a month to get a reply, but Bing finally did reply.

Quote:

After further review, it appears that your site [REMOVED] did not meet the standards set by Bing the last time it was crawled.
It would seem this is the equivalent of a shadow ban where they do not show any issues in their search console but are indeed blacklisting the domain. Unfortunately their emails bounced when replying to try and clarify, but at least I know it is a manual action. I wish Bing would have shown in this in their webmaster tools, but I'm assuming my other domains showing 0 results have the same issue.

Thank you for the suggestion Focus, now as to how to fix it... fun time :)
WG

Focus 07-30-2023 02:49 PM

Anytime brother, Remember, it may take multiple attempts; it took me a year to regain the search engine links for a site that was blacklisted. The outcome can often depend on who handles your ticket and how it gets escalated to the appropriate technical team. While you're waiting for their response, ensure that your Domain Authority (DA) continues to rise. Best of luck! ✌️

mopek1 07-30-2023 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23160142)

Thank you for the suggestion Focus, now as to how to fix it... fun time :)
WG

How do you fix it? What was the standard they were looking for?

WiredGuy 07-30-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus (Post 23160199)
Anytime brother, Remember, it may take multiple attempts; it took me a year to regain the search engine links for a site that was blacklisted. The outcome can often depend on who handles your ticket and how it gets escalated to the appropriate technical team. While you're waiting for their response, ensure that your Domain Authority (DA) continues to rise. Best of luck! ✌️

Did you know the cause of the blacklisting for your domains? I'm assuming in my case insufficient quality content as my backlinks are all relevant. I can add more content and re-submit although its a bit of a challenge without knowing the exact cause (didn't help that their email bounced, lol).
WG

Denny 07-30-2023 03:04 PM

Recently Bing re-indexed one of my sites that was de-indexed about 3 years ago. It also ranks for related keywords like used to. I didn't do/change anything.

WiredGuy 07-30-2023 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23160201)
How do you fix it? What was the standard they were looking for?

The only suggestion they included in their response was a link to this page which unfortunately is a catch-all of all possibilities: https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help...lines-30fba23a

I've had the thin-content issue from Google where I didn't have enough content. But it's been years since I've had that. It seems to be random, out of a large collection of domains, about 60% seem to be fine, the other 40% seem to be penalized.

WG

mrmister 07-30-2023 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus (Post 23160199)
Anytime brother, Remember, it may take multiple attempts; it took me a year to regain the search engine links for a site that was blacklisted. The outcome can often depend on who handles your ticket and how it gets escalated to the appropriate technical team. While you're waiting for their response, ensure that your Domain Authority (DA) continues to rise. Best of luck! ✌️


Domain authority? Since when did that mean anything?

I have a site with domain authority of 8 getting over 100k from google

Colmike9 07-30-2023 04:21 PM

Is it a new/newly indexed site? If so, that happens a lot at the beginning, just wait.

mopek1 07-30-2023 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23160207)
The only suggestion they included in their response was a link to this page which unfortunately is a catch-all of all possibilities: https://www.bing.com/webmasters/help...lines-30fba23a

I've had the thin-content issue from Google where I didn't have enough content. But it's been years since I've had that. It seems to be random, out of a large collection of domains, about 60% seem to be fine, the other 40% seem to be penalized.

WG

Yeah thanks. That is their way it seems of being able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and have that link as an excuse. If you're 60/40 fine/shadowbanned then it means they have no clue what they are doing and are trying to likely put a damper (to some degree) on adult.

WiredGuy 07-30-2023 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23160235)
Yeah thanks. That is their way it seems of being able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and have that link as an excuse. If you're 60/40 fine/shadowbanned then it means they have no clue what they are doing and are trying to likely put a damper (to some degree) on adult.

I'm wondering if its automated where its their bot that's flagging it or if its manually reviewed. If its automated, then correcting the issue shouldn't be too bad, should be as simple as fixing the issue then re-submitting the sitemap. If its manual, then good luck...
WG

mopek1 07-31-2023 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23160237)
I'm wondering if its automated where its their bot that's flagging it or if its manually reviewed. If its automated, then correcting the issue shouldn't be too bad, should be as simple as fixing the issue then re-submitting the sitemap. If its manual, then good luck...
WG

Well, oddly enough, I just checked and my site is back to being (almost) fully indexed again with Bing. I didn't do anything between the time I created this thread and now. So I don't get what's going on. Traffic is up from Bing and I'm getting more of my pages with my site name put into search that I wasn't getting before.

WiredGuy 07-31-2023 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23160461)
Well, oddly enough, I just checked and my site is back to being (almost) fully indexed again with Bing. I didn't do anything between the time I created this thread and now. So I don't get what's going on. Traffic is up from Bing and I'm getting more of my pages with my site name put into search that I wasn't getting before.

Do you have access to apache logs? Can you check your logs for when Bing spidered your site in the last 30 days and if it corresponds to when traffic started to come back? Your use case would seem to imply it's an automated process rather than a manual process.
WG

mopek1 07-31-2023 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23160465)
Do you have access to apache logs?

Yeah just checked. Bing spiders my site multiple times per day but up until now it was only the mainpage and after 28th it started crawling a whole lot more. So likely an automated process rather than something someone (a live person) looked into.

WiredGuy 07-31-2023 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23160580)
Yeah just checked. Bing spiders my site multiple times per day but up until now it was only the mainpage and after 28th it started crawling a whole lot more. So likely an automated process rather than something someone (a live person) looked into.

Good to know. No changes were made to your site otherwise?
WG

mopek1 07-31-2023 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23160601)
No changes were made to your site otherwise?
WG

None at all. Just adding content as usual.

$5 submissions 08-01-2023 01:51 PM

OP, did your issue get resolved?

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mopek1 08-01-2023 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 23160879)
OP, did your issue get resolved?

For Bing yes, not for Yahoo yet though.

***Edit. Nope, Bing is back to not having my domain come up when I search it by name. The domain is crawled but when I search my domain name I get non-adult results. Things like funny humor, text only pages, social media etc.. purposely trying to not show adult.

dUbster 08-01-2023 04:13 PM

I have a 3 month old site that has over 2000 pages indexed in Bing already


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