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Rochard 06-27-2025 06:43 PM

Supreme Court Upholds Texas Age-Verification Law
 
This might have a huge impact on our indsutry.

The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld Texas’s age-verification law (H.B. 1181), ruling that it only incidentally affects free speech and passes constitutional muster under intermediate scrutiny. Justice Clarence Thomas argued that states have the right to require proof of age before accessing sexually explicit content online to protect minors, even if it imposes some burden on adults. This decision significantly impacts the adult industry by legitimizing mandatory ID checks for users, raising serious concerns about user privacy, site traffic, and compliance costs. Critics, including Justice Kagan in her dissent, warned that the ruling lowers the bar for regulating adult content and contradicts previous free speech precedents.

Read the full article on YNOT: https://www.ynot.com/supreme-court-u...ification-law/

cerulean 06-27-2025 07:01 PM

I believe that this will have significant and lasting effects on the industry. An excessive burden will be placed on site operators who wish to comply with these laws, and customers who just wish to support an industry. XBiz has reported numerous sites being sued earlier this year for non-compliance.

I am glad that I spent the time last, and this year, reading the documentation and learning all of the various Age Verification and Know Your Customer solutions. LoginBlue already has a release candidate to integrate them.

I think there are methods to weather this storm by shifting marketing plans and business direction. I've seen a few people on this forum (and some of my clients) already start adopting these plans.

I liked Kagan's dissent, and in following the various adult-oriented attorneys on Twitter, I think there is a lot of disappointment in today's ruling.

CyberHustler 06-27-2025 09:55 PM

We got what we voted for 🍿😎🍿

AmateurFlix 06-28-2025 02:07 PM

Just completed a nipple & hooha purge from my network. All non-nude now.

Big thanks to wowify for giving me the tools to build all those non-nude AI images.

fastball 06-28-2025 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23381170)
We got what we voted for 🍿😎🍿

Well, "we" fucked the whole thing up by supporting tube sites like pornhub that gave away nasty porn for free. No membership required. This industry jumped on it like a fatted cow, and this industry bears a lot of blame for this regulatory mess. Greed got us here, and greed won't save us.
Look in the mirror and stop pointing fingers at regulators. If we had stayed wrapped up in plastic bags on the top shelf, this would probably have been overlooked by a lot of wives of legislators.

BTW, I have been pounding this drum for the last 20 years and you all just carried demolishing our business.
Traffic is not king. It is a demon.

CyberHustler 06-28-2025 02:34 PM

I hear you, and you seem to be correct, though I don't think many had a choice but to compete.

However, we still getting what we voted for.

🍿😎🍿

mainstreammix 06-28-2025 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 23381313)
Just completed a nipple & hooha purge from my network. All non-nude now.

Big thanks to wowify for giving me the tools to build all those non-nude AI images.

I haven't read the regulations but does non nude enticing content actually qualify for an exemption?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381315)
Well, "we" fucked the whole thing up by supporting tube sites like pornhub that gave away nasty porn for free. No membership required. This industry jumped on it like a fatted cow, and this industry bears a lot of blame for this regulatory mess. Greed got us here, and greed won't save us.
Look in the mirror and stop pointing fingers at regulators. If we had stayed wrapped up in plastic bags on the top shelf, this would probably have been overlooked by a lot of wives of legislators.

BTW, I have been pounding this drum for the last 20 years and you all just carried demolishing our business.
Traffic is not king. It is a demon.

This is a silly argument. Everything you say about the effects can be true but 0 people here had the ability to stop it. Everyone here goes pay to play only and some dude in Estonia becomes a billionaire. The "game was over" when YouTube got big, all of this was inevitable. Copyright laws adapted, life went on, anyone boycotting what happened missed out on their share of billions.

If they entire industry was PPV do you really think you could compete with OF models that send me videos of them fucking 2 girls in Facebook messenger to promote their own content?

This industry hasn't even had to deal with "react" content like mainstream. What are you going to do when people start taking paysite content and reacting to it on an adult style Twitch website? Skip another 20 years of revenue?

CaptainHowdy 06-28-2025 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381315)
nasty porn

? ? ? ? ? ? ?

AmateurFlix 06-28-2025 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23381352)
I haven't read the regulations but does non nude enticing content actually qualify for an exemption?

it's not just one set of regulations, it's different per state and there's around two dozen states with these laws.

my content currently is not much different than a Victoria Secrets catalog or a S.I. Swimsuit Edition magazine.

without shutting down entirely, I think I've taken a fairly cautious approach. I'll see how things progress and if needed redirect traffic from some states. worst case I'll just redirect USA traffic entirely but that would destroy my traffic trades and sales.

fastball 06-28-2025 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23381352)

If they entire industry was PPV do you really think you could compete with OF models that send me videos of them fucking 2 girls in Facebook messenger to promote their own content?


Yes, I do. Remember, this was before OnlyFans, which proved that people will pay for adult content if the platform and tech make it seamless.

But let’s be honest: anyone today can find extreme content — even the most vile, taboo, or outright illegal acts — in a few clicks. It’s disturbingly effortless, and even minors can stumble onto it. The industry didn’t fight this flood of free tube content; it eagerly embraced and encouraged it. It was like surrendering to Donald Trump — driven by fear, greed, or plain ignorance, and paving the way for chaos no one wanted to own.

fastball 06-28-2025 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23381355)
? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Why is this a question?

INever 06-28-2025 10:59 PM

It's the internet. Host offshore with an LLC.

INever 06-28-2025 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23381170)
We got what we voted for 🍿😎🍿

25% OF THE PEOPLE.

Only 1/2 the people still bother to vote since it's rigged by computers.

TubesBooster 06-29-2025 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23381170)
We got what we voted for 🍿😎🍿

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

pornmasta 06-29-2025 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381315)
nasty porn

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Making a porn website claim that after all some porn is nasty, matches the concept of this wiki page...

fastball 06-29-2025 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 23381417)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Making a porn website claim that after all some porn is nasty, matches the concept of this wiki page...

You mean like a whore clowning a hooker for running game? Not today. School's out, Pm.

mainstreammix 06-29-2025 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381372)
Yes, I do. Remember, this was before OnlyFans, which proved that people will pay for adult content if the platform and tech make it seamless.

But let’s be honest: anyone today can find extreme content — even the most vile, taboo, or outright illegal acts — in a few clicks. It’s disturbingly effortless, and even minors can stumble onto it. The industry didn’t fight this flood of free tube content; it eagerly embraced and encouraged it. It was like surrendering to Donald Trump — driven by fear, greed, or plain ignorance, and paving the way for chaos no one wanted to own.

OF generates billions in revenue per year, it's actually insane how much they've expanded the porn market. Almost as insane as almost nobody "in the industry" cashing in on it. It has never been easier.

fastball 06-29-2025 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23381519)
OF generates billions in revenue per year, it's actually insane how much they've expanded the porn market. Almost as insane as almost nobody "in the industry" cashing in on it. It has never been easier.

So, what you're saying is that a pay site is making money and not supporting thieves?

RyuLion 06-30-2025 12:29 AM

It was inevitable. It should've happened sooner.
It costs cents to verify each user. This will reduce piracy in the long run..

mainstreammix 06-30-2025 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381542)
So, what you're saying is that a pay site is making money and not supporting thieves?

I'm saying the industry is worth billions and a bunch of idiots took their balls, cries and went home instead of dealing with change.

What exactly do you accomplish by complaining about Tube sites when the results of banning them here would have put them all overseas with more stolen content and less sharing? DVD's sold well when there was no internet and VHS sold well when there was no DVD but none of it matters.

RyuLion 06-30-2025 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23381547)
I'm saying the industry is worth billions and a bunch of idiots took their balls, cries and went home instead of dealing with change.

What exactly do you accomplish by complaining about Tube sites when the results of banning them here would have put them all overseas with more stolen content and less sharing? DVD's sold well when there was no internet and VHS sold well when there was no DVD but none of it matters.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

Tell me about it man..pornhub was the beginning of it..

INever 06-30-2025 03:25 AM

Justice Thomas would have been willing to show id to buy or rent Long Dong Silver? And have that id stored digitally forever.

We've come a long way.

Retiree 06-30-2025 07:50 AM

X and Reddit will benefit the most...they will be the biggest porn websites soon.

You can access them even in countries that banned porn completely, which people over there do.

fastball 06-30-2025 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23381547)
I'm saying the industry is worth billions and a bunch of idiots took their balls, cries and went home instead of dealing with change.

What exactly do you accomplish by complaining about Tube sites when the results of banning them here would have put them all overseas with more stolen content and less sharing? DVD's sold well when there was no internet and VHS sold well when there was no DVD but none of it matters.

I’m beyond complaining. Now just observing and commenting. The flaw in your argument? DVDs and VHS sold; they weren’t dumped online for free to chase clicks.

The real problem wasn’t overseas pirates — it was immunity at home. Section 230’s 26 words gave platforms cover to profit off stolen content without consequence.

If distributors and search engines had been held accountable early, the mass theft wouldn’t have exploded. But instead, the industry, FSC included, backed the free for all, calling it “adaptation” while gutting its own value.

But the elephant in the room is, that the whole biz has an Achilles heel that could shut us down overnight if they really, really wanted us gone. We all know what that is...Visa.

fastball 06-30-2025 08:13 AM

:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23381548)
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

Tell me about it man..pornhub was the beginning of it..

And one of them, Feras Antoon got his brand new wildly expensive palatial house burned down in Montreal.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/upload...y=75&strip=all

https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/u...ca9c6c9abe.jpg

Better days at the Antoons. Pretending to be respectable tech entrepreneurs.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/12...8245324907.jpg

Jman 06-30-2025 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 23381313)
Just completed a nipple & hooha purge from my network. All non-nude now.

Big thanks to wowify for giving me the tools to build all those non-nude AI images.

:thumbsup

xxxclusive 06-30-2025 09:24 AM

Made my tour nude only, hope it's enough. Would do non-nude but would be a lot of work.

Just in case, we already should find and list offshore hosters, because most users simply won't do a face scan.

Retiree 06-30-2025 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23381627)
Made my tour nude only, hope it's enough. Would do non-nude but would be a lot of work.

Just in case, we already should find and list offshore hosters, because most users simply won't do a face scan.

Nude won't help, people are not even sure if non-nude will help, since nude will be hosted behind paywall.

Offshore hosting won't help, since it will be blocked on the ISP level, it probably already is.

And 99% of regular users have no clue how to use VPN, unfortunately, so VPN isn't a great solution either.

xxxclusive 06-30-2025 11:00 AM

Nude is everywhere in mainstream, then they would also need face ID for Netflix etc

mainstreammix 06-30-2025 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23381605)
I’m beyond complaining. Now just observing and commenting. The flaw in your argument? DVDs and VHS sold; they weren’t dumped online for free to chase clicks.

The real problem wasn’t overseas pirates — it was immunity at home. Section 230’s 26 words gave platforms cover to profit off stolen content without consequence.

If distributors and search engines had been held accountable early, the mass theft wouldn’t have exploded. But instead, the industry, FSC included, backed the free for all, calling it “adaptation” while gutting its own value.

But the elephant in the room is, that the whole biz has an Achilles heel that could shut us down overnight if they really, really wanted us gone. We all know what that is...Visa.

I get it, if reality wasn't real we'd still be selling porn with minimal effort.

mechanicvirus 06-30-2025 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23381646)
Nude is everywhere in mainstream, then they would also need face ID for Netflix etc

Yea but they aren't, in fact they will say "netflix? you aren't netflix, take the porn off your site NOW".

Then like 5 posters on here will be like "they can't do that" while offering no support.


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