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mainstreammix 07-28-2025 04:33 AM

AI / Answer Engine Optimization - Commerce is shifting from browsing websites to talking to AI.
 
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Commerce is shifting from browsing websites to talking to AI.

Your sales funnel is about to be wiped out.

While most sellers are still A/B testing checkout buttons and tweaking product pages, Visa and Mastercard are launching tools that let AI agents make purchases without a customer ever visiting your site.

This isn’t theory.
Mastercard’s Agent Pay is already processing transactions.
PayPal’s agent toolkit goes live next quarter.

Think about what that means.

No more browsing. No more cart abandonment. No more retargeting ads chasing ghosts around the internet.

A customer simply says, “I need winter running shoes,” and their AI assistant buys them from the brand it deems the best match. It doesn’t compare ads. It doesn’t visit websites. It just executes.

Now take that into B2B. A procurement manager says, “Find me a supplier for eco-friendly packaging under $2 per unit with 3-day delivery.” The AI does the sourcing, price benchmarking, risk evaluation and places the order before the sales rep even knows there was an opportunity.

The entire game changes.

Traditional SEO gets bypassed. Conversion rate optimisation becomes irrelevant when there’s no human to persuade. Loyalty programs lose impact when AI decisions are driven by data, not brand perception.

I’m watching companies pour money into funnel optimisation while the entire concept of a funnel is being dismantled.

The winners will be those who understand how to get their products and services recommended by AI agents. Not those with the prettiest site or the best copywriter.

This is where answer engine optimisation (AEO) becomes critical.

Whether you’re ready or not, this is already in motion.
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JesseQuinn 07-28-2025 06:49 AM

for sure that's been becoming more of a thing for a while now, which begs the questions of whether peeps who block AI crawlers from their websites aren't actually shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to appearing in 'new' search

for wp alone there are a ton of plugins that have an option like that for at least some AI crawlers built in. I think with the rationale that doing so would help combat plagiarism

before I installed a browser extension to block those AI overviews from appearing in search queries (nothing against AI, just a massive waste of water/resources) I saw that the overviews were grabbed from websites, and did include links to the sites

for basic queries probs most peeps would never actually click through to the 'source' websites, but still could be a factor for some click throughs at least

I realize AI overviews in browsers are different from the first screencap you posted re performing queries using an AI program, but still def something for site owners to consider in weighing pros and cons of what to block


the output in your second screencap was interesting, advising one to search on pornhub and 'oh, btw, would you like me to grab you some specific vid titles?'

someone needs to train these LLMs to recommend one pay for their fucking porn, dammit

mainstreammix 07-28-2025 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 23387641)

for basic queries probs most peeps would never actually click through to the 'source' websites, but still could be a factor for some click throughs at least

Fast forward a year when you just tell your phone "I want a clean, amateur video of a threesome with 2 blonde women and 1 male. The women should be short and have big tits and at least one should do anal."

I already use AI for 100 things I used to search so I'd imagine this part will take off faster than most. Not the above search AI, just straight up talking to your phone and bypassing all of that.

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JesseQuinn 07-28-2025 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23387650)
I already use AI for 100 things I used to search so I'd imagine this part will take off faster than most. Not the above search AI, just straight up talking to your phone and bypassing all of that.

oh, no doubt

Huggles 07-28-2025 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23387650)
I already use AI for 100 things I used to search so I'd imagine this part will take off faster than most. Not the above search AI, just straight up talking to your phone and bypassing all of that.

My next project with my app is going to involve re-connecting it to the API (I had it working before but because it bugged out, it kept sending requests and I hit my max monthly usage so fast. Whoops! Definitely going to set a max requests per day up.)

This is because I've been watching on X how other people setup Cursor and prompts and all this shit... and I have an idea of how to give the AI memories and directives, so that our entire working relationship can evolve as the AI will have access to knowing what is making money, what isn't, my struggles, our combined resources, how I've made money before, giving it a better picture of the world and how money flows, and train my data-banked AI memories to work through the API to give me a 24/7 virtual assistant that will constantly work towards advancing our business ventures together.

Because I know I'm a fat old drunk, I need an AI trained to be a young go-getter asshole who needs to be rich to be happy! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Huggles 07-28-2025 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23387650)
AI has already replaced a huge chunk of traditional search for a lot of people, so voice-based assistants will probably catch on even faster. Not search AI, but straight up talking to your phone and skipping all the steps.

Next up for my app is reconnecting it to the API. It used to work, but a bug caused nonstop requests and blew through the monthly quota fast. This time it'll have a daily cap to avoid that mess.

Been watching people on X build with Cursor and chain prompts together in smart ways. Gave me an idea: create an assistant with memory and directives. Something that learns what makes money, what doesn't, tracks challenges, knows past successes, and understands how resources move.

With that kind of memory running through the API, it's not just a tool anymore. It's a 24/7 partner locked in on growing the business.

Basically, Bonzi Buddy on steroids.


https://i.ibb.co/23Zd6gjs/Bonzi-Buddy.png

Because I know I'm a fat old drunk, I need an AI trained to be a young go-getter asshole who needs to be rich to be happy! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

mainstreammix 07-28-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23387682)
My next project with my app is going to involve re-connecting it to the API (I had it working before but because it bugged out, it kept sending requests and I hit my max monthly usage so fast. Whoops! Definitely going to set a max requests per day up.)

This is because I've been watching on X how other people setup Cursor and prompts and all this shit... and I have an idea of how to give the AI memories and directives, so that our entire working relationship can evolve as the AI will have access to knowing what is making money, what isn't, my struggles, our combined resources, how I've made money before, giving it a better picture of the world and how money flows, and train my data-banked AI memories to work through the API to give me a 24/7 virtual assistant that will constantly work towards advancing our business ventures together.

Think Bonzai Buddy on steroids!

https://i.ibb.co/23Zd6gjs/Bonzi-Buddy.png

Because I know I'm a fat old drunk, I need an AI trained to be a young go-getter asshole who needs to be rich to be happy! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Which AI are you using?

Claude projects is insanely good, I don't have to tell it anything about the overall purpose at this point.

Huggles 07-28-2025 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23387684)
Which AI are you using?

Claude projects is insanely good, I don't have to tell it anything about the overall purpose at this point.

Claude projects? What's that?

I use Claude in Cursor and I just open the folder and get the AI to read my project log and the AI knows what's up within a few minutes of re-scanning all my files.

What I'd like to do is get the app to code itself through the Cursor CLI... but I gotta move first so my internet actually works again. Half the fucking time I use Cursor lately I get timeouts and retry messages because my connection died. Get the keys to the new place today! :thumbsup

https://i.ibb.co/T9vXd0X/Chat-GPT-Im...0-04-39-AM.png

mainstreammix 07-28-2025 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23387695)
Claude projects? What's that?

I use Claude in Cursor and I just open the folder and get the AI to read my project log and the AI knows what's up within a few minutes of re-scanning all my files.

What I'd like to do is get the app to code itself through the Cursor CLI... but I gotta move first so my internet actually works again. Half the fucking time I use Cursor lately I get timeouts and retry messages because my connection died. Get the keys to the new place today! :thumbsup

https://i.ibb.co/T9vXd0X/Chat-GPT-Im...0-04-39-AM.png

You can add your project overview, instructions and all files to a project on claude so that it knows your goals, etc in addition to what the code is doing.

asorelli 07-28-2025 02:59 PM

Pretty much the reason the AI crawlers didn't find their way on to my IP deny list yet. Although, so far, i have not seen much of returning the favor.


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