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Duckers 12-08-2025 05:08 AM

Any legal consequences of Ofcom’s requirements?
 
I was contacted by representatives of ofcom.org.uk demanding that I install age verification on my website.
As far as I understand, Ofcom is a UK government agency. I’m an EU resident.
Logically, I don’t see their demand as fair. However, I’m interested in the legal aspect: what consequences could my refusal to implement this age verification lead to, considering that I have no connection to the UK?
Perhaps someone has explored this topic and knows the answer.

CaptainHowdy 12-08-2025 07:02 AM

Why you wouldn't want to implement it on the first place ? ?

cordoba 12-08-2025 07:11 AM

I doubt if they could do anything other than block your site.

NatalieK 12-08-2025 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duckers (Post 23417525)
I was contacted by representatives of ofcom.org.uk demanding that I install age verification on my website.
As far as I understand, Ofcom is a UK government agency. I’m an EU resident.
Logically, I don’t see their demand as fair. However, I’m interested in the legal aspect: what consequences could my refusal to implement this age verification lead to, considering that I have no connection to the UK?
Perhaps someone has explored this topic and knows the answer.

OFCOM is the "office of communications" for the UK, they regulate what is seen, fining those that do not apply with rules, most definitely when dealing with online porn & AVS, deterring underage viewing of your website...

I would most definitely implement AV to your websites, amazed you´re not already compliant.

The EU is following suit as will it be world wide, so may as well get on it now & deal with it :thumbsup

Duckers 12-08-2025 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23417543)
I would most definitely implement AV to your websites, amazed you´re not already compliant.

Oh, you're surprised that someone is still not compliant? Then don't check the UK Google top, you'll be shocked like never before :)

Duckers 12-08-2025 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23417539)
Why you wouldn't want to implement it on the first place ? ?

Did you already add age verification to your site? Mind sharing how it affected your traffic?

pornlaw 12-08-2025 09:24 AM

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...ust-age-checks

Let us know when you dont do it, how they can affect your business...

1) block your site
2) seize your domain
3) seize any corporate assets
4) seize any personal assets

Im generally curious to know how far Ofcom will go.

Beaver1 12-08-2025 09:25 AM

The criminal and civil law of the operator, owner, and server location are decisive. Everything else is irrelevant!

Otherwise, one would have to abide by the laws and prohibitions of 200 different countries.
Conversely, that would mean that you are allowed to sell cocaine on your server, because that's permitted by law in Colombia!

3xmedia 12-08-2025 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 23417540)
I doubt if they could do anything other than block your site.

:2 cents:

Beaver1 12-08-2025 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23417558)
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...ust-age-checks

Let us know when you dont do it, how they can affect your business...

2) seize your domain
3) seize any corporate assets
4) seize any personal assets

Im generally curious to know how far Ofcom will go.


Given the current tense political situation between Europe and the US, they are not doing any of this.
It is hard to imagine that Starmer or the EU would actually want to censor US servers or seize domains at this time.

pornlaw 12-08-2025 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 23417566)
Given the current tense political situation between Europe and the US, they are not doing any of this.
It is hard to imagine that Starmer or the EU would actually want to censor US servers or seize domains at this time.

Im not saying they would any of that. I was serious about my curiosity about how Ofcom plans to implement their fines.

4Chan told them to fuck off over the summer and then filed suit in the US.

I havent heard anyone publicly state if and/or how Ofcom has gone after them.

Matyko 12-08-2025 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 23417540)
I doubt if they could do anything other than block your site.

tubecorporate just got a one million GBP penalty.. I doubt they can be forced to pay (russian owners) but I also doubt they can enter UK or probably even the EU if they won't pay.

The Porn Nerd 12-08-2025 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 23417583)
tubecorporate just got a one million GBP penalty.. I doubt they can be forced to pay (russian owners) but I also doubt they can enter UK or probably even the EU if they won't pay.

After Brexit England is not part of the EU anymore so I'm sure they can enter Europe. For now.

And hey, not being able to enter the UK is actually a blessing these days given how insane that place has become. :2 cents:

BobJones123 12-08-2025 12:00 PM

Since we made our landing pages softcore and added a pop-up about being over 18, our conversions in the UK have gone up 9%.

We made this change in May 25 before the Ofcom deadline and as all the landing pages are softcore, ofcom can't challenge us. It's been a winwin

Duckers 12-08-2025 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 23417583)
tubecorporate just got a one million GBP penalty.. I doubt they can be forced to pay (russian owners) but I also doubt they can enter UK or probably even the EU if they won't pay.

I read in the news that their legal entity is registered in Belize. And Belize is officially ruled by the King of the United Kingdom :) Maybe that’s why they came up with such crazy fines...
But I still don’t understand why the EU should force its own citizens (or visitors) to pay fines issued by the United Kingdom.

Kelli58 12-08-2025 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23417558)

1) block your site
2) seize your domain
3) seize any corporate assets
4) seize any personal assets

Im generally curious to know how far Ofcom will go.

I'm with you. I'm curious how far they will go as well. Block your site, for sure

But can they seize your domain if it's not a .uk domain?
And can they seize your personal assets if you are in the US?

daviking 12-09-2025 12:44 AM

Did they threaten any consequences, or just asked nicely?

cordoba 12-09-2025 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 23417683)
I'm with you. I'm curious how far they will go as well. Block your site, for sure

But can they seize your domain if it's not a .uk domain?
And can they seize your personal assets if you are in the US?

No. No more than China could seize your domain and assets for blogging about Tibetan independence.

plsureking 12-09-2025 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobJones123 (Post 23417590)
Since we made our landing pages softcore and added a pop-up about being over 18, our conversions in the UK have gone up 9%.

We made this change in May 25 before the Ofcom deadline and as all the landing pages are softcore, ofcom can't challenge us. It's been a winwin

this is definitely the best way to go if you don't want these new "laws" to put you out of business.

implementing a forced ID verification is a death sentence for your site/network. i've seen it a few times this year. most of the producers have been run out of the business.

softcore/SFW tours sell better anyway. :2 cents:

#porncms

Duckers 12-09-2025 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23417767)
this is definitely the best way to go if you don't want these new "laws" to put you out of business.

implementing a forced ID verification is a death sentence for your site/network. i've seen it a few times this year. most of the producers have been run out of the business.

softcore/SFW tours sell better anyway. :2 cents:

#porncms

Probably yeah, but that method doesn’t really work for a tube site.

BobJones123 12-10-2025 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duckers (Post 23417771)
Probably yeah, but that method doesn’t really work for a tube site.

Good. Cause tube sites caused the down spiral of the porn industry.

cordoba 12-10-2025 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23417767)
this is definitely the best way to go if you don't want these new "laws" to put you out of business.

implementing a forced ID verification is a death sentence for your site/network. i've seen it a few times this year. most of the producers have been run out of the business.

softcore/SFW tours sell better anyway. :2 cents:

#porncms

Smaller affiliates for certain wont be able to make a profit with ID age verification installed.

But most sponsors are still not providing SFW promotional content.

fuzebox 12-11-2025 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobJones123 (Post 23417590)
Since we made our landing pages softcore and added a pop-up about being over 18, our conversions in the UK have gone up 9%.

A pop-up about being over 18 is not compliant though...

pornmasta 12-11-2025 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 23417750)
No. No more than China could seize your domain and assets for blogging about Tibetan independence.

Yeah but freedom of speech has to be enforced in China

BobJones123 12-12-2025 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23418192)
A pop-up about being over 18 is not compliant though...

But there is nothing pornographic on the sites when you make the landing/public pages softcore. Therefore, it doesn't fall into Ofcom's realm :thumbsup

NatalieK 12-12-2025 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duckers (Post 23417525)
I’m an EU resident.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23417558)
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...ust-age-checks

Let us know when you dont do it, how they can affect your business...

1) block your site
2) seize your domain
3) seize any corporate assets
4) seize any personal assets

Im generally curious to know how far Ofcom will go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 23417566)
censor US servers or seize domains at this time.

Duckers is in the EU not the US...

although, not sure what servers or where he purchased his domain, however, let´s not forget, the AVS process & idea isn´t just the UK, many states ask AVS & the EU is becoming AVS regulated...

I would like to see how far this goes, already have AVS on our pay sites & our own blog...

traffic hasn´t changed, well, maybe a little dip from the UK, but then, it´s probably UK traffic using VPN, hence a dip in UK, but up on other countries :2 cents:


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