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rowan 08-28-2003 06:34 PM

ccbill declined BOTH my Visa cards
 
Just adding to the "WTF" posts about ccbill lately...

Tried a standard Visa credit card issued by one of the "big 4" Australian banks.

Available credit $AUD1,129 (about $USD750)

"Card declined by bank. Please try a different card"

This card has been used to sign up with ccbill before.

Ok, second try, my Visa Debit card. I think it's called Visa Checking in the USA, it's linked directly to your bank account.

Available balance $AUD1,452 (about $USD950)

"Card declined by bank. Please try a different card"

Again - this card has been used with ccbill before.

:helpme

GeXus 08-28-2003 06:35 PM

Good.. ccbill is protecting itself against scammers

Juicy D. Links 08-28-2003 06:36 PM

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Living For Today 08-28-2003 06:40 PM

thats not to good.
discrimination against us aussies :Graucho

hopefully its not to common :)

plsureking 08-28-2003 06:44 PM

yo man. i doubt downunder has been added to the ccbill blacklist. i do know that they are picky as shit though. your info on the form has to match exactly to your banks info. we had a german dude that got declined cuz he had some weird dots over his u. he removed them and it went through.

what were you signing up for anyway?

corvette 08-28-2003 06:55 PM

rowan, your card could have been declined for many reasons. If it was declined by the bank, then when we tried to submit it to the bank, the bank said ?no?

rowan 08-28-2003 06:56 PM

I put in the proper data both times. Double and triple checked it even. :) Correct billing address, correct name (same as it appears on the card - no funny characters), correct card#, correct CVV2, correct expiry. I have never had either card declined by ccbill before. They've been used for a total of 6 initial transactions (and a few rebills) through ccbill in the past year or so.

I doubt that ccbill has given us Aussies the flick, but it seems strange that a couple of Australian people have had 4 different cards - from 3 different (and major) Australian banks - declined in the past few days.

plsureking 08-28-2003 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
rowan, your card could have been declined for many reasons. If it was declined by the bank, then when we tried to submit it to the bank, the bank said ?no?
hey whats up mark. ryan from hegre.

i've had my card declined at some ccbill clients and then it works at others on the same day. rowan you're probably trying to buy at an inferior site. try a better site! hehe

rowan 08-28-2003 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
i've had my card declined at some ccbill clients and then it works at others on the same day. rowan you're probably trying to buy at an inferior site. try a better site! hehe
That's weird, if the bank is declining the card then wouldn't it happen to any ccbill signup page?

I already have a hegre-archives membership. :winkwink:

brutus 08-28-2003 07:08 PM

THat's not so funny - my cards incl. business cards - are declined when issuing banks are closed i.e. outside business hours. That's scary. Including cards from Finland, Viro, Russia and Germany. Fuck. Just wondering how much saaes is lost becouse of that... too much.

Funny - at lest my finnish and german cards works when local banks are open. Too strange ???

plsureking 08-28-2003 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan


That's weird, if the bank is declining the card then wouldn't it happen to any ccbill signup page?

I already have a hegre-archives membership. :winkwink:

well at least you have some quality porn in your life! you should try galitsin-archives dude. that site is going crazy lately with all the hot little russian chicks we're posting. are you an affiliate there? make a grand and i'll give you a password.

mark will have to answer the credit card stuff. i'm boggled..

corvette 08-28-2003 07:15 PM

hi ryan, hope all is well

There are many good reasons and different factors that can cause a card to be declined. I would list them all, but I don?t want to compromise the integrity of our fraud scrubbing system.

We want good transactions and we want to minimize risky transactions?but the fact remains that if we submit a transaction to your bank and your bank declines it for whatever reason, our hands are tied?

Bottom line is that our interests are aligned with our webmasters. We only lose money off of declined cards; we make money when our clients make sales.

I am going home now, should be back online in a bit

beemk 08-28-2003 07:16 PM

pay your bills

bhutocracy 08-28-2003 07:30 PM

cards issued by a couple of the australian banks just will not get through the system.. ccbill has been particularly harsh to aussie cards for several years... the national is particularly bad

rowan 08-28-2003 07:39 PM

Can it happen the other way around, with the bank indiscriminately blocking transactions that are initiated through ccbill?

chromium 08-28-2003 07:41 PM

I suggest you try again tomorrow with your tests.

Sometimes with the wonderful interent... bank connections are not fully made "in a timely manner" and a decline is quickly issued.

Could also be a problem with your local bank.

(I am not defending CCBILL... not a client)

Joe Average 08-28-2003 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
we had a german dude that got declined cuz he had some weird dots over his u. he removed them and it went through.

For future reference, those 'weird dots' are called an Umlaut.

Kimmykim 08-28-2003 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Can it happen the other way around, with the bank indiscriminately blocking transactions that are initiated through ccbill?
Technically anything is possible, though it would be more of a situation where the banks would block a transaction on an MCC basis just like they do with gambling.

plsureking 08-28-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


For future reference, those 'weird dots' are called an Umlaut.

yeah i tried to spell umlaut but gave up. sorry german dudes.

Indeed 08-28-2003 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Good.. ccbill is protecting itself against scammers
:1orglaugh

spooky181 08-28-2003 10:43 PM

When I was using CCbill I used to sign up to my site using my credit cards as I was always suspicious of their rediculous scrub rate. Some days my card would be accepted then others it would not. I used to be driven crazy by the constant decline emails from CCbill.

As soon as I switched to Verotel (yes I know you will say they won't be around for long) my signups % had a huge jump and no increase in chargebacks. It is a pity that CCbill has pretty much a monopoly now as they can scrub even tighter now.

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rowan 08-31-2003 07:17 PM

Following this up...

Signup was successful today using the Visa credit card.

dirtyone 08-31-2003 07:41 PM

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:glugglug

stocktrader23 08-31-2003 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spooky181
When I was using CCbill I used to sign up to my site using my credit cards as I was always suspicious of their rediculous scrub rate. Some days my card would be accepted then others it would not. I used to be driven crazy by the constant decline emails from CCbill.

As soon as I switched to Verotel (yes I know you will say they won't be around for long) my signups % had a huge jump and no increase in chargebacks. It is a pity that CCbill has pretty much a monopoly now as they can scrub even tighter now.

Spooky



www.CheatingXXXWife.com/extremecash/index.html

They keep telling me they don't scrub harder but my CCBill ratios keep going from great to shit to great to shit. I pulled all the links to CCBill sponsors I had on Google Adwords just a couple of days ago.

Sausage 08-31-2003 09:40 PM

Yeah I have 3 credit cards from different aussie banks and CCBill declines them all. All the other processors I have tried accept them.... so its not the bank.


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