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Za Ha 02-22-2004 03:24 PM

The customer is NOT king - Discuss
 
I cannot understand why webmasters cannot understadn that the surfer is NOT king. You cannot treat all surfers the same. A surfer from Spain or Germany is less valuable than a surfer from the US.

Non US/Canadian surfers have a MUCH smaller chance of having a CC and if they do have a CC they are less likely to use it online.

So why do webmasters not notice this? Why do they bitch about sites that have autodialers for countries that make close to NO money at all for the webmaster?

No one cares about traffic stats if only 30% of the surfers actually have CC's.

So why do webmasters care soo much about their foreign traffic that makes them no money?

Oracle Porn 02-22-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
I cannot understand why webmasters cannot understadn that the surfer is NOT king. You cannot treat all surfers the same. A surfer from Spain or Germany is less valuable than a surfer from the US.

Non US/Canadian surfers have a MUCH smaller chance of having a CC and if they do have a CC they are less likely to use it online.

So why do webmasters not notice this? Why do they bitch about sites that have autodialers for countries that make close to NO money at all for the webmaster?

No one cares about traffic stats if only 30% of the surfers actually have CC's.

So why do webmasters care soo much about their foreign traffic that makes them no money?

they click like crazy fuckers.

Trax 02-22-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn


they click like crazy fuckers.

which is only 1 reason

Za Ha 02-22-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn


they click like crazy fuckers.

But they make no money.
By sending someone shit traffic in exchange for good traffic you are doing the same thing as a hitbotter. (Not saying you, just explaining)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-22-2004 03:30 PM

Funny thing is most of the major sponsors knew that shit many months ago and all those little penny pinching non CC holding surfers made them millions while you retarded webmasters had no clue...

Only now do you realise that dialers are some money and only recently have you people began to ask about getting dialer revenue from sponsors with your traffic.

:321GFY
Thats how fucken stupid most ya people are.

DBS.US 02-22-2004 03:30 PM

Because People are Dumb
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Basic_man 02-22-2004 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by DBS.US
Because People are Dumb
http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/museum4kids/jump.gif

You got it right ! :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-22-2004 03:36 PM

Appearently most of ya still have no clue...

just a punk 02-22-2004 03:40 PM

Actually this is a matter of mentality. Most of European surfers also have CC's as well, but only the US ones are ready to spend the money just to jerk off on computer. Thus you may do some profit on this. Just send the non-US traffic to the services/goods they are ready pay for. So even the Chinese surfers will pay the money if you suggest them something really worthwhile. I.e. try to consider non-adult sponsors.

Just another example. I doubt there is at least a few Russians who will pay even a cent to jerk off. However lots of them are ready to spend $50..$300 on a nice-looking hooker (this why there practically no Russian-oriented porn sites, but lots of online escort services).

Remember: mentality is the key!

Sexzity 02-22-2004 03:50 PM

The best selling traffic is foreign traffic.
Many countries do have a lot of Credit cards.
If you take a country like Dk, a small one, only 5.500.000 people.
Of the adult part of the popultion in Dk, 90% has a Dankort, and 80% has a Dankort with VISA.
Many allso have a Mastercard.

But why dont anyone try growing that marked? Maby becouse they allmost never see a signup from Dk. But if you calulate a little, you will see this:

US population 360.000.000
Dk population 5.500.000

360/5.5 = 65.45
Every time you make 65.45 US signup, you should get 1 signup from Dk.

But do you thing, people will signup to anything if they get 3-10 popups asking for installing a dialer?

taboo_gal 02-23-2004 09:00 AM

Interesting perspectives.

I think its a matter of the amount of foreign traffic one gets as to whether it is beneficial to go the dialer or sms route. IMO I don't see that you could lose by having at least one method on hand to at least test it. I wouldn't immediately assume the traffic is worthless just because of the low probability of cc ownership/usage. This is the purpose of having an alternate billing method, correct?


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