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Deepundercover 10-15-2004 11:50 AM

Bangbus Article In Miami New Times Makes Industry Look Bad
 
www.lukeisback.com

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/...4/feature.html

The camera's red light eye blinks on, and the hardcore sex, choreographed for maximum visual exposure and female humiliation, begins in earnest. While camera operator Greg Entner taunts and insults her, a slip of a young woman with curly brown hair whom we'll call Lori, performs oral sex on her partner, and chokes, partially on stifled tears.
The scene will be edited into a 45-minute episode depicting Lori's sexual escapades and uploaded onto the Website of Miami-based porn giant Bangbus.com.

Alltopnotch 10-15-2004 11:50 AM

lol...they do be doggin bitches on there though! of course some squares are gonna give negative criticism to shit like that...

pornstar2pac 10-15-2004 11:51 AM

your 2 days late Luke. Old news.


That chick is just plain dumb:2 cents:

BRISK 10-15-2004 11:52 AM

Luke might be back, but he's a bit slow

johndoebob 10-15-2004 11:54 AM

Jesus... :1orglaugh

Seems seome people still belive that Bangbus isn't staged :helpme

johndoebob 10-15-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Anyone with a digital video camera and at least one person willing to perform a sex act in front of it can make and distribute pornography.
Yeah sure... :1orglaugh

Mutt 10-15-2004 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Jesus... :1orglaugh

Seems seome people still belive that Bangbus isn't staged :helpme

the concept is staged but what happens when the film starts rolling isn't scripted or staged. same thing for a Max Hardcore shot, a Khan Tusion shoot and many others, girls have an idea what's going to go on but many aren't prepared for the humiliation and abuse once they are in the middle of it.

hardcore porn biz ain't pretty - gets nastier all the time.

SmokeyTheBear 10-15-2004 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Jesus... :1orglaugh

Seems seome people still belive that Bangbus isn't staged :helpme

they don't really hide that fact. but in order to make it realistic he bashes on the women, and even if they are informed some of them are obviously upset.

I think its funny that the women get upset when they KNOW its staged.

Its like women who take cumshots and make a sad face and obviously don't like it.

I dont know their procedures, but im sure it goes something like this.


Hi stephanie welcome to bangbus , we are an adult video company, we will pay you $XXXX for a 2 hour shoot.

The script goes like this. We will pick you up infront of a house , and just pretend like you dont know us , get in and do what we tell you to do. They may even tell them, that they will be mean , but not to be offended, just play along.

Either way the girl knows what she is up for and at any time is told ( IN ANY PORN SHOOT I HAVE EVER SEEN ) , if you feel uncomfortable or want to stop at any point , let us know.

Alltopnotch 10-15-2004 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
the concept is staged but what happens when the film starts rolling isn't scripted or staged. same thing for a Max Hardcore shot, a Khan Tusion shoot and many others, girls have an idea what's going to go on but many aren't prepared for the humiliation and abuse once they are in the middle of it.

hardcore porn biz ain't pretty - gets nastier all the time.

yea...you basically laid it down...

johndoebob 10-15-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Either way the girl knows what she is up for and at any time is told ( IN ANY PORN SHOOT I HAVE EVER SEEN ) , if you feel uncomfortable or want to stop at any point , let us know.
But she wouldn't get the money if she stopped in the middle of the scene, maybe even some penalty for wasting time, so she got through it and complained after it.

"Oh I was so mentally instable blah blah blah"

All I'd have to say is stfu bitch :thumbsup

I'd never do interviews with the press, all lying bastards going into the "porn is evil" direction beside a few exceptions.

Gynecologist 10-15-2004 12:13 PM

Actually I think it makes stupid desperate girls look bad.

jade_dragon 10-15-2004 12:14 PM

Anyone who thinks this makes the industry look bad does not like porn anyway so why should we even worry about it. When I had some non industry people read it they thought:

1) The girl was stupid
2) She lied or the lawyer lied (most likely her)
3) The people who run porn companies make a lot of money and are cool.

People who thought that Ox Ideas was evil already did not like porn and when I made them give a reason other than not already disliking the industry they could not come up with logically how this was not all the girl's fault.

1) She walked into a CORPORATE office not someone's house. Do a google or yahoo search for the name of the company, .36 seconds later you can take the first link. It shows you all of their sites, each of those sites has a free downloadable trailor like any good porn site :Graucho
2) She is well over 18, not that an 18 year old is an excuse. You are deemed old enough by the governing body of this country to make your own decisions then you are responsible for your own decisions
3) Her boyfriend fucked her not one time but twice. Got her pregnant (her choice also) and then took the money for being her pimp and left her OWNED!
4) Internet porn does not go away in 2 weeks, shit dvd/vhs porn does not go away in 2 weeks, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that it is going to be out there forever now. So even IF I believed they told her that it does not matter, that was just stupid to think it would just go away in 2 weeks.


And what the hell is up with McKay. He is not all that good looking and certainly not built. He was picked up out of a dead end job and told he could fuck chics, and they were payed 300 a shoot? How many of you guys out there pay the male star 300 a day let alone each time. He was making all of 10.00 an hour if he was lucky and spent what time he could have been getting educated as the front man of some emo/goth band chasing fame and he has the nerve to complain about this. He would be just another post 22 year old serving one of us a mocha sippy at some coffee shop full of emo/goth/punks talking about how outcasted they are if not for Entner, he should be kissing his chubby ass for more than doubling his wage and making him famous! If he knew anything about anything he could book himself on Howerd Stern and he could have branched out on his own and used his shoots with Ox to perhaps launch is own site or something. This is if he had not wasted the 300.00 a shoot on political statement filled shirts and strings for his guitar....... [/rant]

Axzar 10-15-2004 12:20 PM

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johndoebob 10-15-2004 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Anyone who thinks this makes the industry look bad does not like porn anyway so why should we even worry about it. When I had some non industry people read it they thought:

1) The girl was stupid
2) She lied or the lawyer lied (most likely her)
3) The people who run porn companies make a lot of money and are cool.

People who thought that Ox Ideas was evil already did not like porn and when I made them give a reason other than not already disliking the industry they could not come up with logically how this was not all the girl's fault.

1) She walked into a CORPORATE office not someone's house. Do a google or yahoo search for the name of the company, .36 seconds later you can take the first link. It shows you all of their sites, each of those sites has a free downloadable trailor like any good porn site :Graucho
2) She is well over 18, not that an 18 year old is an excuse. You are deemed old enough by the governing body of this country to make your own decisions then you are responsible for your own decisions
3) Her boyfriend fucked her not one time but twice. Got her pregnant (her choice also) and then took the money for being her pimp and left her OWNED!
4) Internet porn does not go away in 2 weeks, shit dvd/vhs porn does not go away in 2 weeks, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that it is going to be out there forever now. So even IF I believed they told her that it does not matter, that was just stupid to think it would just go away in 2 weeks.


And what the hell is up with McKay. He is not all that good looking and certainly not built. He was picked up out of a dead end job and told he could fuck chics, and they were payed 300 a shoot? How many of you guys out there pay the male star 300 a day let alone each time. He was making all of 10.00 an hour if he was lucky and spent what time he could have been getting educated as the front man of some emo/goth band chasing fame and he has the nerve to complain about this. He would be just another post 22 year old serving one of us a mocha sippy at some coffee shop full of emo/goth/punks talking about how outcasted they are if not for Entner, he should be kissing his chubby ass for more than doubling his wage and making him famous! If he knew anything about anything he could book himself on Howerd Stern and he could have branched out on his own and used his shoots with Ox to perhaps launch is own site or something. This is if he had not wasted the 300.00 a shoot on political statement filled shirts and strings for his guitar....... [/rant]

Totally agree man. :thumbsup

tony286 10-15-2004 12:45 PM

In porn Its not as simple as this is what we are going to do and the girl knows it all before hand. The common scenerio is when they meet the girl they give a very vague outline of what will happen . Then the girl shows up the day of the shoot, she is nervous ,chances are broke and a little intimidated. She then gets hit with the oh by the way, if the girl gives any sign she is unhappy with this, the guilt trip starts. What do you mean you wont do this? you will never work again . I know a few models who do porn and they all had some version of this story, some did it some told them to go fuck themselves.
That article was embarrassing and I didn't think anyone was cool. It shows us to the general public as slime , that doesn't make me happy. I have sent many girls to Score to do soft and hardcore shoots and they were dealt with a high degree of respect and no surprises were thrown on them. Score is a very successful company showing you can do adult and have a high degree of integrity. Unfortunately slime sells more papers.

johndoebob 10-15-2004 12:48 PM

http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/245/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/246/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/247/

She looks sooo unhappy :winkwink:

PiksalDesign 10-15-2004 12:53 PM

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Dax 10-15-2004 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/245/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/246/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/247/

She looks sooo unhappy :winkwink:


Wrong girl.. the newspaper changed her name...

johndoebob 10-15-2004 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Wrong girl.. the newspaper changed her name...
Quote:

While camera operator Greg Entner taunts and insults her, a slip of a young woman with curly brown hair whom we'll call Lori
Dunno, but matches somehow, lead me to the bangbus vid :Graucho

Dax 10-15-2004 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
the concept is staged but what happens when the film starts rolling isn't scripted or staged. same thing for a Max Hardcore shot, a Khan Tusion shoot and many others, girls have an idea what's going to go on but many aren't prepared for the humiliation and abuse once they are in the middle of it.

hardcore porn biz ain't pretty - gets nastier all the time.


Actually Mutt to my knowledge..they show the girls a bangbus video.. before they shoot...

I remember they would bring the girl or the couple and make them watch a full episode... so they had an idea of what was about.. Maybe that has changed.. but doubt is much different..

I know Greg personally and he is one of the few ppl i would be 100% associated with in this industry.. the kid is good people..

:2 cents:

Dax 10-15-2004 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Dunno, but matches somehow, lead me to the bangbus vid :Graucho
Yes it does match... but that girl is not in bangbus is she? and if that was it.. she would have mentioned that site on the article wouldnt have.. ?

fl_prn_str 10-15-2004 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/245/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/246/
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/cf/247/

She looks sooo unhappy :winkwink:


Cum Fiesta is not Bang Bus.....Bang Bus is Bang Bus.

fl_prn_str 10-15-2004 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
In porn Its not as simple as this is what we are going to do and the girl knows it all before hand. The common scenerio is when they meet the girl they give a very vague outline of what will happen . Then the girl shows up the day of the shoot, she is nervous ,chances are broke and a little intimidated. She then gets hit with the oh by the way, if the girl gives any sign she is unhappy with this, the guilt trip starts. What do you mean you wont do this? you will never work again . I know a few models who do porn and they all had some version of this story, some did it some told them to go fuck themselves.
That article was embarrassing and I didn't think anyone was cool. It shows us to the general public as slime , that doesn't make me happy. I have sent many girls to Score to do soft and hardcore shoots and they were dealt with a high degree of respect and no surprises were thrown on them. Score is a very successful company showing you can do adult and have a high degree of integrity. Unfortunately slime sells more papers.

Score Group is VERY methodical about their shoots. All talent must have current PCR DNA Testing....whereas most shooters (in So. FL) dont either have the time (for talent to be tested) or dont care (and use condoms) to do such prelim work as testing.

johndoebob 10-15-2004 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fl_prn_str
Cum Fiesta is not Bang Bus.....Bang Bus is Bang Bus.
But also belongs to OX Ideas.

johndoebob 10-15-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Yes it does match... but that girl is not in bangbus is she? and if that was it.. she would have mentioned that site on the article wouldnt have.. ?
I don't know I'm not a bangbus member anymore so I can't tell.

I just know to never trust the press cause they like to twist things on controversial topics :thumbsup

Manowar 10-15-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Luke might be back, but he's a bit slow
:1orglaugh

Drake 10-15-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
the concept is staged but what happens when the film starts rolling isn't scripted or staged. same thing for a Max Hardcore shot, a Khan Tusion shoot and many others, girls have an idea what's going to go on but many aren't prepared for the humiliation and abuse once they are in the middle of it.

hardcore porn biz ain't pretty - gets nastier all the time.

If this is true then there really is a problem in this industry in the way content is produced. Precisely what's going to happen in a scene should be spelled out and defined beforehand. There shouldn't be surprises.

fl_prn_str 10-15-2004 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
But also belongs to OX Ideas.
Ok, I will take your word.....I just find talent for them (as an independent recruiter/talent scout).... so I dont know too much.

fl_prn_str 10-15-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
If this is true then there really is a problem in this industry in the way content is produced. Precisely what's going to happen in a scene should be spelled out and defined beforehand. There shouldn't be surprises.
Yeah I?m sure there would be a line several miles long of girls waiting to be tortured and tormented. If the so called "shady" companies spelled it out for them. :1orglaugh Some people call it the bait and switch routine.

johndoebob 10-15-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fl_prn_str
Ok, I will take your word.....I just find talent for them (as an independent recruiter/talent scout).... so I dont know too much.
RK Netmedia (Nastydollars) are in the same building as Ox Ideas (Bangbros/Oxcash), they belong together, how far I don't know.

Drake 10-15-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fl_prn_str
Yeah I?m sure there would be a line several miles long of girls waiting to be tortured and tormented. If the so called "shady" companies spelled it out for them. :1orglaugh Some people call it the bait and switch routine.
We don't want shady companies, that's the point. Girls would still line up for it. They're doing it for money. They already have an idea of what can happen. Making explicit what will take place in each scene would ensure no surprises.

NichePay_Manny 10-15-2004 03:29 PM

Any publicity is good publicity.

xxxdesign-net 10-15-2004 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by NichePay_Manny
Any publicity is good publicity.
uh no...

jade_dragon 10-15-2004 04:51 PM

Did you guys watch porn before you got into the industry? In any of those porns did it seem like the woman was being babied and loved? No she was a super horney woman who wanted to please a man and be pleased. In the late 70's and early 80's it was pretty rough, she was more just a thing to be used, dialog was something like.


"Yeah bitch, suck my fucking cock, yeah you like that don't you"


Porn is not "I love you baby, I want to make love to you" it is raw and carnal, it is man and woman at their most honest with each other. Above that Bangbus is Ganzo porn it is not even big industry porn with all the guidlines and fronts of being nice. It is off the wall, fantasy based crazyness based in the stupidity of the average girl. I think a 22 year old who has sex without a condom with someone as shady as her man and then is stupid enough to let the check be signed over to him fits RIGHT into that stupid girl scenario of bangbus. My point is what the hell is a "suprise" in a porn shoot? She had the name of the company, that means she had access to everything they ever shot. I know if I did porn I would expect to be treated like an object, get fucked and that involved, anal, vaginal or oral.

We are all smut peddlers here, the christians of this world do not see any honor in anything we do, why are you worried about appeasing them or fitting into their system. You could be as nice and honest with the girls as you want, you are still "scum" to them. The girl signed a contract, there was 2 weeks for her to research the company, there were 2 weeks for her to back out, she could have backed out at the shoot, sure no money but also no "shame". Do not feel sorry for people like this, you are doing nothing more than telling them that their stupidity is ok and that the world needs to hold their hands, they will never grow up that way.

robfantasy 10-15-2004 04:54 PM

i think its funny to see these porn girls with cum on their faces...

maja 10-15-2004 04:59 PM

FUCK. i HATE the mainstream media. all of them. they're all against us!!


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