U.N. climate panel says global warming man-made
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070202/...lwarming_dc_18
By Gerard Wynn and Alister Doyle

PARIS (Reuters) - The U.N. climate panel issued its strongest warning yet on Friday that human activities are heating the planet, adding pressure on governments to do more to combat accelerating global warming.

The IPCC, the most authoritative group on warming grouping 2,500 scientists from more than 130 nations, predicted more severe rains, melting glaciers, droughts, heatwaves and rising sea levels, especially if Antarctica or Greenland thaw.

The final text said it was "very likely" -- or a probability of more than 90 percent -- that human activities led by burning fossil fuels explained most of the warming in the past 50 years.

That is a toughening from the last report, in 2001, when the IPCC said the link was "likely," or 66 percent probable. Signs of change range from drought in Australia to record high January temperatures in Europe.

"February 2, 2007 may be remembered as the day the question mark was removed from whether (people) are to blame for climate change," Achim Steiner, the head of the U.N. Environment Program, told a news conference.

He urged governments to inject more momentum into stalled talks on long-term cuts in emissions. Greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere have not been higher in 650,000 years.

"We are in a sense doing things that have not happened in 650,000 years, based on the scientific evidence," Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, told a news conference.

A 21-page summary of scientific findings for policy makers outlines wrenching change such as a possible melting of Arctic sea ice in summers by 2100 and says it is "more likely than not" that greenhouse gases have made tropical cyclones more intense.

The report predicts a "best estimate" that temperatures would rise by between 1.8 and 4.0 Celsius (3.2 and 7.8 Fahrenheit) in the 21st century, within a likely range from 1.1 to 6.4 Celsius.

Temperatures rose 0.7 degrees in the 20th century and the 10 hottest years since records began in the 1850s have been since 1994.

U.N. officials hope the report will prompt governments -- led by the United States, the top emitter -- and companies to do more to cut greenhouse gases, released mainly by burning fossil fuels in power plants, factories and cars.

CORAL ATOLLS

Many backers of the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol, a plan binding 35 industrial nations to cut emissions of greenhouse gases by 2012, want outsiders to get more involved. The United States and China are not bound by Kyoto targets.

The head of the U.S. delegation said that President George W. Bush's policies, braking the rise of emissions rather than cutting them, were working.

"The President has put in place a comprehensive set of policies to address what he has called the 'serious challenge' of climate change," Sharon Hays, Associate Director of the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy, told Reuters.

Bush pulled out of Kyoto in 2001, saying caps would harm the economy and that Kyoto unfairly omitted developing nations from a first period to 2012. He focuses instead on big investments in technologies such as hydrogen and biofuels.

The President of Kiribati, a group of 33 Pacific coral atolls threatened by rising seas, said time was running out.

"The question is, what can we do now? There's very little we can do about arresting the process," President Anote Tong said.

The report projects a rise in sea levels of between 18 and 59 centimeters (7 and 23 inches) in the 21st century -- and said that bigger gains could not be ruled out if ice sheets in Antarctica and Greenland thaw.

Some leading scientists had criticized an earlier draft for cutting the range after the 2001 forecast a rise between 9 and 88 cms by 2100. Rising seas threaten countries such as Kiribati and cities from Shanghai to Buenos Aires.

If the UN said so, then it must be true :1orglaugh

Actually there's no doubt that part of it is man-made, but there were drastic temperature variations throught history before humans evolved.

LOL as opposed to what, heads of state and corporate managers?

so what?

part of it is enough to fuck the planet

Not this drastic. "An Inconvenient Truth" is up on peekvid. Check it out.

Must have been a lot of women on the panel since they said it was "man-made"...

Otherwise, the report would have said it was human-made, or caused by humans.

Sure, always blame it on the men, whether we're talking about toilet seats or global climate change.

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I had insomnia last night and that conference was live on CNN, it helped me go back to bed...

It went something like this,
this chart shows how earth is warmer, next slide,

This chart shows, how regional places are getting warmer, next slide,

this chart shows that humans are making earth warmer, next slide,

this chart shows evidence of the oceans getting warmer, next slide,

this chart shows evidence that the polar ice caps are melting, next slide,

this chart shows that earth has been warming over the last 50 years, next slide,

this chart shows how it we can speculate that human activity is causing this growth.

then I fell asleep...

well if your looking back through history, alot of species have become extinct over the years. Humans are responsible for many recent species going extinct, and it looks like we are headed towards doing the same thing to ourselves

Ooooh no no no no no no, completely wrong.

The *planet* wont be fucked by this. The planet can deal with way heavier shit and has been through situations so extreme that this isnt even compareable.

Our chance of survival on it might be in danger though, but people always seem to underestimate the ingenuity of the human race under pressure.

Just for the sake of curiosity, all of you people deeply involved in these discussions, have any of you read up on what Bjørn Lomborg had to say?

Heres a wikipedia link, even though nobody should really trust wikipeda imo. Its acceptable for references though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

So the only alternatives to the UN's word is the word of heads of state and corporate managers? Lol.


I wonder how many people who whine about global warming drive a car or more, take flights, leave lights switched on, etc.

I wonder how many people who whine about global warming aren't prepared to do anything about it other than whine in a forum.

Don't believe the worlds experts on climate.

Listen to Exxon-mobil instead, they have the right experts

Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...rc=rss&feed=11

Here moron, since you can't read:

grouping 2,500 scientists from more than 130 nations

anyone ever read about Eugenics? Very popular in the early 20th century, and also a very political motivated 'science'.

We are FUCKED!

If the UN said so, then it must be true :1orglaugh

thats really boring.
what I want to know is how many of them dudes from the UN have unexplained cash in the freezer?

Are you just playing the IDIOT role, or you really are ...

SCIENTISTS ....

On the other hand, we now know that the UN was wrong on the WMD, the 15 minutes drome and so on...

Go play with your manboobs....

i love people that have to wait for stuff to actually happen to do something aobut it.

R

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

so true. Here is backup link

And of course Bush and his oil-biz puppetmasters that hire corrupt scientists, are telling the truth. :error

HAHA I get it you're just trying to get everyone worked up. *whew*

I agree with what you said about not many people are doing anything about it on a personal level though. For my end of it I conserve as much as I can and I got rid of my car years ago. I'm surprised no one has piped up yet and made mention of the "fact" there seems to be disagreement on the issue.

SHHHH!! Scientists are never ever ever wrong. :mad:

I never said they were.

No dude. You go and play with yours.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8...sthecocyu9.jpg

roflmao

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There are no words worth wasting on Lazonby!!!!!! *lol*

No, that would be the sun ;)

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...60aa332f1f&k=0

If one is saying yes and the other no, who is lying? :pimp

Certinaly not a pimp.

Lying implies knowing the answer in the first place.

Expert scientists in the field told the IPCC their conclusions (which was NOT what the IPCC put forth in their press conferences). The REAL experts thing the IPCC are full of it ;)

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...cd20bed2f6&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...eeec46d1fc&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...2b95c45dcf&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...de085af353&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...60aa332f1f&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...9eeb015777&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...7f1dee479f&k=0
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...59a5c7f723&k=0

You're a hundred percent right...which is why I don't whine about global warming, cuz I know it's partly my fault. I just don't understand why they're wasting all this time with these studies...quit talking about it and just DO something. Get up off your asses and make me a badass truck that's good for the environment, and I'll be a happy camper :)

Well, I don't agree. They can lie about knowing the answer.

They need to pin it on something. There's always motive involved with humans, who is paying the panel bills?

We don't have a shred of proof to back this claim.

I want the weather records around the world for the last 500,000 years to be able to graph this trend.

Wait, we only have the last 200 years? Oh dear.

I as pointing out that to lie, you have think you know the truth in the first place.

Yep click the links I posted earlier? It's all the world's pre-eminent experts in the area of climate and related studies that have told the IPCC that we are NOT the cause of global warming, yet they chose to make that their "scapegoat" anyways in the interests of politics. Couldn't have them looking like fools over having countries spend BILLIONS changing infrastructure and economy for Kyoto, could we?

This was posted just today... Apparently the IPCC doesn't listen to the experts anymore.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...1a1380121a&k=0

Cant be true. Al Gore made a movie with a hockey stick graph! And and and its on the news and and and but but it must be are fault cause pollution is MUCH worse now than it was 60 years ago... :disgust

Frankly nobody with basic common sense needs any "pin" Brad. Simplified version for this board - anyone with eyes and an interest in looking can see the wreckage of the world's forests including the supposed "lungs of the earth" in the Amazon basin. A quick check on what were rich forest areas around the Gulf coast in Texas will show large hectares of dead wood and clouds of pollution still hanging over these areas (emissions from oil refineries).

Irrespective of any reports or the ramblings of others, several governments started years ago in efforts to preserve the environment and are current injecting, literally billions into target areas under threat. Even China are spending serious money globally buying "oxygen shares" in rainforest areas in an attempt to counter their contamination of the environment - and we take a portion of that "oxygen rental" cash towards protecting areas.

Perhaps instead of talk, a few countries need to stand up and pay for the cost of their contamination of the environment instead pontificating and borrowing off nations who have already started playing a role.

Getting panties in a twist over a report on global warming is pointless - not one person here has the qualifications to either accept of deny anything - they just talk and cut/paste whatever suits their agenda.

Maybe read what LM posted?

I never did have a need for guidance on reading material thanks - I was blessed with eyes.

Try and read what I did post first - then find something relevant instead of more cut and paste.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Funny how only the experts that agree with global warming are experts eh?? :thumbsup

What you raving about now? Did anyone mention "experts"?? You would not know either way Sticky. There sure are no experts around here ;-)

Tho there are a few clueless sig whores who specialize in fucking up threads for postcounts - not that they have any personal agenda on the topic - least that's what they said, remember?? *lol*

I dont know why I waste time typing to you. lol This whole thread is about the U.N. climate panel and their 2500 experts. Yet they ignored the opposing opinions some of which were experts that they themselves asked to testify. BAAAAA!!!!!

Those articles just showed me that a few dozen scientists disagree with a bunch of other scientists.

Yea? I don't know either - you have nothing to offer. Take a tip - don't! :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Wow you fit all that thought into less than a paragraph? I was sure you would need at least a 500 word essay to cover that. Rambling on about this and that while missing the full point. :winkwink:

OK now when exactly is an argument resolved? The conclusion released today was the collective opinion of climatologists from 130 different countries which embrace different values, politics, and economies. They all came to the same conclusion.

There's always gonna be a dissenting opinion but when the score is 2500 - 10 I must say the game's over. I mean c'mon there's a bigger per capita pool of scientists today that believe we're harming the planet as compared to the per capita number of scientists that had to argue the Earth was round.

complete bullshit

fuck you un, fuck the nwo!

On a lighter note, not only should you not eat yellow snow, but pending further investigation, it might be wise to not eat orange snow as well:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L01708971.htm

You have read any report by the IPCC, have qualification to offer any opinion, spoken to anyone involved in environmental issues or involved in environmental protection in any way??? *lol*

You have some point to make somewhere in a dispute among professionals?? I doubt any of them care...

But can you tell them what your issues are and give more thought to "why I waste time" blah?? Damned if I know, but your wasting my time :winkwink: :thumbsup

Webby's a hardcore socialist. He's a liar and manipulator by definition. Always entertaining though. Carry on the show.

socialist ... He is a fucking capitalist, just like me ...

Liar ? Manipulator ? please show proof or STFU ....

BTW, I see you complete Photoshop for Idiots 101.

Congrats :thumbsup