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eurabia 05-19-2008 01:49 AM

WTF is Wrong With AEBN?
 
Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?

ManHuntSteve 05-19-2008 06:25 AM

Please explain.

Klen 05-19-2008 06:49 AM

He want to say they pay toomuch for ppc beacuse of bidding to non profitable keywords.

fusionx 05-19-2008 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14205332)
Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?


There's no money in search engine marketing. :1orglaugh

FreeHugeMovies 05-19-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14205332)
Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?

I'm sure AEBN is making a profit from it. Want my AEBN ref code?:winkwink:

Jace 05-19-2008 08:22 AM

hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)

nation-x 05-19-2008 09:05 AM

He's mad that he can't compete :)

Fat Panda 05-19-2008 09:22 AM

oh jeez, ppc

Sebastian Sands 05-19-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14206197)
hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)

He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.:thumbsup

GatorB 05-19-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14205332)
Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?

How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.

who 05-19-2008 10:00 AM

"Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords"

I know you want to sound like you 'know something' - but trust me, it's not working.

Barefootsies 05-19-2008 10:23 AM

This thread delivers... :thumbsup


much comedy for many reasons.

:winkwink:

Jace 05-19-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 14206601)
He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.:thumbsup

well, it isn't like I know an exact figure, LOL...but I do know they aren't hurtin

tiger 05-19-2008 10:25 AM

I'm sure AEBN knows what they are doing. Why do you care anyway?

Jace 05-19-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14206617)
How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.

didn't you know, every_single porn keyword on google is $2, they have been running that special for years now

eurabia 05-19-2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14206197)
hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)

Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.

Andy Servers4Less 05-19-2008 11:46 AM

umm sig spot??

Jace 05-19-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14207152)
Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.

I don't lie or make shit up, EVER, and I don't appreciate the accusation


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

okok 05-19-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14207152)
Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.

Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?

Jace 05-19-2008 12:26 PM

btw, if you have issues with any of what AEBN is going, you can call your google rep and complain

GatorB 05-19-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14207152)
Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.

Ok first it's $2 now it's 90¢. So which is it and how do you know?

Adam_OC3 05-19-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okok (Post 14207237)
Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?

Seems like a good point to me, if you don't click they don't pay.

If you happen to want a gay site then they don't have any competition.

TheDoc 05-19-2008 01:11 PM

I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.

IntenseJerry 05-19-2008 02:50 PM

I do well with AEBN... Liz Wright rocks!

SmokeyTheBear 05-19-2008 02:53 PM

i dont do adwords much but they could just be buying ads at a loss in order to make people like yourself give up on looking to bid on those terms, or they could be "tasting" each keyword to get an idea of value. any number of things , including just straight making money :)

Ron Bennett 05-19-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14207423)
...But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should...

Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

Ron

kristin 05-19-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 14208007)
Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

Ron

I have known of companies (not saying AEBN is doing it at all) that have paid those prices and lost only to force competition out.

The other thing is a lot of listings are AEBN's WMs, not AEBN themselves. So the WMs must be making some good cash with AEBN to keep forking over those prices.

And yes, VOD keywords are that expensive.

TheDoc 05-19-2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 14208007)
Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

Ron


See, you can't 'force' it to happen, it happens because people don't know 'how' to use Adwords. Nobody forces me out with the higher prices, it just makes it so I buy less trash words that don't produce very well anyway.

You can tell, very easily by looking, if the correct matching is made on the keywords, related ad, url, and landing page - and very quickly see and know what the quality score would be.

eurabia 05-20-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14207423)
I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a 2-d post from someone who knows what they're talking about! (the first was from me :)

eurabia 05-21-2008 03:54 AM

...bump...

eurabia 05-23-2008 08:05 AM

looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.

Tjeezers 05-23-2008 08:09 AM

I don't understand the fuzzz, let them burn cash, they don't get traffic from me anyway, so i don't mind their budget, non of my business. If one of my top sponsors who i make good cash with does this, i would perhaps think like you do, but still, whats the background idea of starting this post?

fusionx 05-23-2008 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 14227693)
looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.

You truly have no clue

eurabia 05-23-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx (Post 14227776)
You truly have no clue

care to elaborate, 5-word wonder?

Jace 05-23-2008 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx (Post 14227776)
You truly have no clue

and how the hell would you know anything? :error

eurabia 05-24-2008 09:50 PM

boring...

eurabia 05-25-2008 01:07 PM

bump........

eurabia 05-26-2008 04:16 AM

bump......


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