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yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 08:51 AM

Those FUCKERS at AEBN are ripping me off !!!
 
I log into my AEBN account and get this:


************************************************** ****

ATTENTION!

Your account is currently in a "DO NOT PAY" status. Please see the reason(s) below:

Please contact your rep for assistance:

AEBN Agent
Stéphane Marchand
[email protected]
800.628.0241 x 176

************************************************** ****


These people know my mailing address, but they are acting like they have a reason to hold back my pay... I have been dealing with these people for years now !!!

How in the hell are these people still in business... Yea, I have not been promoting them for many reasons, however, they are playing dirty by not paying me what I have earned.

They could have posted a note on my account or sent me snail mail with my checks, but they are playing stupid games... and I am sick of it !!!

k0nr4d 07-04-2008 08:53 AM

have you tried hitting up the account rep?

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 08:57 AM

Its 4th of July k0nr4d and I had checked my account yesterday and did not notice what they were doing until today! They could have send me my check with a request to contact them via phone, but they could not be bothered to even to that...

Jet Redux 07-04-2008 09:03 AM

fuck AEBN

i saw similar threads recently

DickShoke 07-04-2008 09:07 AM

are you still an active affiliate (aka sending them traffic)? i know some other affiliate had an issue with them also because he wasn't an active affiliate.

i have a feeling it is there way of finding out which unactive affiliates won't notice and respond back, maybe because they got out of the business or for some other reason. this way they can keep the payments from these unactive affiliates without any hassle and the unactive affiliates not noticing. if they were to send out snail mail or an email then they have less of a chance keep payments from unactive affiliates because more unactive affiliates would complain if actually notified.

either way, it sucks they do business this way.

David! 07-04-2008 09:07 AM

Just noticed that as well, just emailed the rep.
Let's see what he says...

dropped9 07-04-2008 09:10 AM

sig spottis

fris 07-04-2008 09:19 AM

same happen to me cause i dont send them traffic anymore

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 09:19 AM

Just sounds like a scam to me...
 
AEBN does not have an excuse... Active or not... they cannot hold back pay due to me not bringing them traffic... regardless they cannot legally circumvent paying me my commissions. They advertise life time commissions for webmasters !!!

Sounds like they are just scamming me and other associates... Those who don't say anything just ends up as victims!

Jens Van Assterdam 07-04-2008 09:22 AM

Wasnt there a thread from the AEBN guy posting his 20 different cars, his airplane and his boat? I think this is where your payment went...

DickShoke 07-04-2008 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14421633)
Wasnt there a thread from the AEBN guy posting his 20 different cars, his airplane and his boat? I think this is where your payment went...

lol :1orglaugh, corruption at it's finest!

pocketkangaroo 07-04-2008 09:57 AM

I've been trying to get my address changed with them for 6 months and eventually gave up. Only had like $100-$200 owed to me but just wasn't worth the effort any longer.

eroticsexxx 07-04-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14421543)
These people know my mailing address, but they are acting like they have a reason to hold back my pay... I have been dealing with these people for years now !!!

How in the hell are these people still in business... Yea, I have not been promoting them for many reasons, however, they are playing dirty by not paying me what I have earned.

They could have posted a note on my account or sent me snail mail with my checks, but they are playing stupid games... and I am sick of it !!!

Whoa whoa whoa...first things first:

Talk to a rep before putting a company on full blast. You mentioned that you just got wind of this yesterday and today is July 4th, a public holiday!

I know that my rep changed a short while ago, so perhaps that is the scenario here.

In business it pays to find out all of the facts first before bitching.

eroticsexxx 07-04-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14421751)
I've been trying to get my address changed with them for 6 months and eventually gave up. Only had like $100-$200 owed to me but just wasn't worth the effort any longer.

I sent an email and had my address changed the next day. Right now I'm sending them mere dribbles of traffic as I'm redesigning my websites and changing my campaigns up.

Something doesn't sound quite right because you could even go to their forums and get someone to deal with your issues right away.

Azoy? 07-04-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14421543)
I log into my AEBN account and get this:


************************************************** ****

ATTENTION!

Your account is currently in a "DO NOT PAY" status. Please see the reason(s) below:

Please contact your rep for assistance:

AEBN Agent
Stéphane Marchand
[email protected]
800.628.0241 x 176

************************************************** ****


These people know my mailing address, but they are acting like they have a reason to hold back my pay... I have been dealing with these people for years now !!!

How in the hell are these people still in business... Yea, I have not been promoting them for many reasons, however, they are playing dirty by not paying me what I have earned.

They could have posted a note on my account or sent me snail mail with my checks, but they are playing stupid games... and I am sick of it !!!


instead of ranting like a whore in heat here on GFY did you to contact your rep to see what the issue might be ?
for all you know it could be an error and it will be fixed.
if you dealt with them for many years then it means you trust them as they have done good by you so I am sure it's nothing that can't be fixed.
as far as the address change, Stéphane is a great guy. i know him and also know he's not going to dick you around but if you can't get resolution from him, call and ask to speak to a manager.
now go and make the call instead of acting like a child on GFY.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 10:23 AM

And you are defending them eroticsexxx... why?
 
eroticsexxx, I have been very fair about this matter, I was wondering for a few weeks now why my commission check was running late... I thought it was just the postal system... It turned out to be AEBN playing games... they can't be bother to place a small note on my account, rather, they just stop payment... hmmmm... I think I have every reason to be upset...

Ron Bennett 07-04-2008 10:40 AM

Does AFF do the same thing? ... haven't seen a check from them in ages.

For the folks who say the adult business, overall, is still doing great, that's B.S. ... because if sales are still so good, why all the sneaky tactics of late.

Back in the day, most all affiliate programs paid on any productive traffic sent ... even if was just an occasional click here and there.

How times have changed :(

Ron

fusionx 07-04-2008 10:57 AM

Without asking them why you really have no reason to be yelling.

pocketkangaroo 07-04-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 14421819)
I sent an email and had my address changed the next day. Right now I'm sending them mere dribbles of traffic as I'm redesigning my websites and changing my campaigns up.

Something doesn't sound quite right because you could even go to their forums and get someone to deal with your issues right away.

I don't know their forums. I just logged in and sent an e-mail to the address that they provided a couple times. Never got a response, never had anything changed. To be honest, it's just not worth my time.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 11:20 AM

Look fusionx, its the company responsibility to get in contact with the associates within a reasonable time frame... the last check AEBN sent to me they could have included a request and or statement regarding my account and or changes of practices of the company... I would have even understood a note on my account... however, this is not the case... clearly there is a record of me logging into my account... clearly once the checks get cashed such gets returned to the company for accounting purposes...

I don't appreciate being scammed by this company which you are associated with... I have not and will not send AEBN traffic due to the fact that I have several negative experiences with AEBN and I am not stupid enough to waste my money buying traffic for a adult program if there are tuns of technical issues or individuals fucking with me; screwing me out of my earnings...

It seems to me fusionx that you like to play down the responsibility of the company and shift the attention back on the associates rather then actually satisfying the associates who are trying their best to earn a honest living...

Robbie 07-04-2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 14421943)
Does AFF do the same thing? ... haven't seen a check from them in ages.

For the folks who say the adult business, overall, is still doing great, that's B.S. ... because if sales are still so good, why all the sneaky tactics of late.

Ron

Ron, you are way off base with that. If anybody is doing great it's gotta be AFF and AEBN. Especially AFF. It's the paysite model of "mega sites" that is taking it on the chin right now. The dating and pay per view models are rolling along at full steam. As are the solo girl interactive sites. And the "sneaky tactics" have ALWAYS been there. But you can't keep doing the same "sneaky tactics" over and over once they are discovered. New and better "sneaky tactics" have to be invented. You know that. lo

I'm not sure what changes AEBN have made that are effecting the original poster, but you can bet it's not because AEBN is having any financial trouble. I'm making more with them now than ever before. It's called years and years of building up revshare.

I do know that AEBN is very careful about account security. I changed my pay to info two years ago to reflect my new company. They made me jump through hoops. I had to call them, and then fax them all kind of paperwork. It really annoyed me at the time.
That is until a couple of months later when my Nasty Dollars account was hacked and the pay to info changed and I lost a lot of money before I noticed it and fixed it.

Then I understood the reason for AEBN's procedures. And I'm grateful for that.

Balalsubturfyooj, what you should do is try to be calm. Wait until Monday and pick up the telephone and call your rep at AEBN. It's a business and you will get it straightened out by calling and explaining what happened. I know it's hard to be calm when you are angry about something...but there's nothing can be done until Monday. So relax, wait for Monday, give them a call, get it straightened out, get your money. :)

TyroneGoldberg 07-04-2008 11:38 AM

where are you located? I know they usually want your w-9 form

Tjeezers 07-04-2008 11:40 AM

With all due respect, you were given a notification to contact your account manager, you should do this first, and if you do not have the patience to do this, then why have the patience to lurk on this thread and piss AEBN of. I do not point fingers, neither to you or AEBN untill you have this issue solved on a decent way

1 : Contact your repp and speak with him/her about this issue. Let him/her explain why this is done.
2 : Come back to GFY and tell is what reason is given for this situation.

On this moment you only make someones name bad for unknown reasons. You would have a much stronger case if you also could provide us with the feedback they have given you

So 123 breath in and out, calm down, and do first what every webmaster would do, go into a DECENT conversation with your repp. There is simply no other way.

tranza 07-04-2008 11:42 AM

So this is happening to quite a lot f AEBN affiliates?

This is no good..

:(

eroticsexxx 07-04-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14421868)
I was wondering for a few weeks now why my commission check was running late... I thought it was just the postal system... It turned out to be AEBN playing games..

Seriously though...

After a week I would have called them, emailed them, instant messaged them or made some sort of communication effort. It never hurts to ask. It's your money. Even the most perfect systems have glitches or else we wouldn't need human reps.

If it's one thing that I'm beginning to learn in this business is that in the more professional companies, there is always someone online in one way or the other.

I don't know the background story, but there is a chance that you might be taking this a bit too personal.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 11:53 AM

I mean no disrespect Robbie, but I have been given a hard time with AEBN before and even with proof they find some way to shift the focus and insist that associates like myself just are not trying hard enough to be reasonable with them and that there is and was never any reason to be upset; because of their lax technical and business practices. I make this statement because I've signed up in 2005 and have brought in approx 161 customers to them before stopping promoting them because of their actions and I have been earning a small but steady income from my efforts.

I don't want to speak to these people and I expect my commission checks within in a reasonable amount of time or I will bill them and send it to collections and make it as public as humanly possible.

eroticsexxx 07-04-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14422142)
So this is happening to quite a lot f AEBN affiliates?

This is no good..

:(

See how this thing could snowball into a company getting a bad rep over someone who simply didn't follow proper business protocol and open up the lines of communication to find out the facts?

Jeez people...

eroticsexxx 07-04-2008 12:06 PM

To all who have issues with AEBN, you have NO EXCUSE not to be able to contact any of them at that organization. Ever use the "Contact Us" link? Run your business like a business.

Go HERE:
http://www.aebn.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=main.Contact


On that page there are phone numbers, fax numbers, email addresses and ICQ numbers.

There ya go.

2MuchMark 07-04-2008 12:16 PM

Why not contact your rep at AEBN first and at least get the reason behind the "Do not pay" status. IMHO, This thread alone would be a reason for AEBN to cut you off.

Today's J4: Turn off your computer and go out and party. Then call AEBN on Monday and trust me you will be able to work out any issues with them without having to resort to things like this. I doubt that posts like this won't do anything for your credibility.

Ron Bennett 07-04-2008 12:44 PM

Again, a big thank you to the OP for posting this thread ... it appears AFF has been holding my earnings ... not sure why ... perhaps it's related to the FTC agreement that had be checkboxed first (just did that now), but don't recall getting any notice from AFF that payments would stop.

Bottom line is that AFF has been holding $136.29 ... it's peanuts, but still money nevertheless.

And AFF likely owes me more, since I have another account with them under a different company - now to track that one down.

I'm considering sending AFF traffic again, since it's been productive in the past, but before doing so, I need assurance I'll be properly paid.

Ron

Ron Bennett 07-04-2008 12:46 PM

Wow, just found another $284.02

Ron

Ron Bennett 07-04-2008 12:53 PM

Just took a closer look at my stats and it appears AFF has been crediting me rebills during the entire time. :)

Looks like AFF is worth promoting again - just need to be paid first, and I'll get the traffic flowing again.

Ron

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 12:53 PM

Wow... ********** & eroticsexxx, the blame the associate attitude is really fresh...

They cant use the excuse of well....... guess what..... we could not get a hold of you..... because that is bull shit...... A few weeks go by and they still cant mail me or leave a message on my account...... HOW IN THE FUCK IS IT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX FUCK-UPS ON THEIR END !!!

This industry has way too many kiss assess...

Tjeezers 07-04-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14422355)
Wow... ********** & eroticsexxx, the blame the associate attitude is really fresh...

They cant use the excuse of well....... guess what..... we could not get a hold of you..... because that is bull shit...... A few weeks go by and they still cant mail me or leave a message on my account...... HOW IN THE FUCK IS IT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX FUCK-UPS ON THEIR END !!!

This industry has way too many kiss assess...

You ever heared of ICQ?
And now i am done with reading your thread, your a drama whore who likes to use CAPS and big words to get readers on your hand. Is this a way to promote your sig? If i was in your sig i would delete that account as a bonus. Man, you sounds like your just stepping into business, no communication skills whatsoever.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 01:31 PM

Sex2Have, have you ever hear of corporate responsibility ?

CyberHustler 07-04-2008 01:35 PM

I always have to contact somebody from AFF on ICQ in order to receive my payments. If I don't contact somebody my money will just stay in there adding up. It's pretty fucking retarded.

JayDeeZee 07-04-2008 01:47 PM

It may not be a big issue. I suggest that you wait until Monday and contact them.




This is also a good place for my sig....

Barefootsies 07-04-2008 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickShoke (Post 14421588)
are you still an active affiliate (aka sending them traffic)? i know some other affiliate had an issue with them also because he wasn't an active affiliate.

i have a feeling it is there way of finding out which unactive affiliates won't notice and respond back, maybe because they got out of the business or for some other reason. this way they can keep the payments from these unactive affiliates without any hassle and the unactive affiliates not noticing. if they were to send out snail mail or an email then they have less of a chance keep payments from unactive affiliates because more unactive affiliates would complain if actually notified.

either way, it sucks they do business this way.

:2 cents:

Matt 26z 07-04-2008 02:05 PM

You know what's funny about these threads is that sponsors hate to see them ("Did you contact the rep before posting?!"), but fellow affiliates support the practice.

Miguel T 07-04-2008 02:11 PM

My account has no problems at all...
Best thing to do is contact support asap.

Tjeezers 07-04-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14422469)
Sex2Have, have you ever hear of corporate responsibility ?

You mean, your problem is our problem?

In that case you don't qualify. You need to do the basic steps first before it becomes a community problem. Just seeing this quote you made now, what are you trying to establish?
In all the years i have encountered problems with sponsors, i was able to arrange behind closed doors a good solution. Just knowing this of myself makes me think that you are missing some communication skills, of tactics to arrange your business. Please do not understand me wrong here, i don't say your a complete moron, but i only say that you could have solved this on a way more decent way. A phone call or a ICQ contact. When they are offline or not responding on 4th of July, have some chillout time, and relax. Do some Joga and do not try to fuck us all up.
Your Thread title is a nice catcher, but was that really needed? You call them fuckers? How you think they will ever solve your case and still keep respecting you and your business?

How would i feel when i go to this forum, tell one of my sponsors they are fuckers and still expect a full cooperation in solving my matter? I would have to say SORRY SORRY SORRY 1000 times publicly after it is solved. Cause i would feel sad when i make them look bad while the situation is not a catastrofe yet.

For example, i have sometimes communication errors with my datacentrum, they are good people, but sometimes they can not step in my shoes. And the issues sometimes takes 20 minutes longer. What would i do in a wrong case? Step to a forum, call them FUCKERS and see 20 minutes later a ticket that they solved it? Oooppppssss...

Sometimes tact is not a bad thing, during the years you get it automaticly and you will slow down in stress and have faith in your own skills to solve it with a simple communication. A lot of people here have that skill, and they are called asskissers for the WRONG reason.
Anyway, AEBN solved many issues with their affiliates, so i don't doubt they solve yours
Good luck in telling them your sorry for running to GFY and calling them Ripping Fuckers.

I hope hereby you also understand i replay cause you quoted me, I was intended to not follow this thread anymore. Neither replay.

Porn Ass 07-04-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14422469)
.......................

you sound like a complete idiot in this thread :2 cents:

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 04:42 PM

Yea ok Sex2Have & Porn Ass ...
 
I can tell that you both are not professional, Sex2Have & Porn Ass, because simple logic is lost on you...

Often when simple logic fails normally the rank NOOBs like the both of you will make cheap shots to others to make yourself look bigger then you really are... I am trying to warn others of the BS AEBN is trying to pull... O and btw there are others here on GFY that AEBN has fucked around... if you actually take your head out of your asses perhaps you both will see this fact...

Most likely the both of you dont know or understand the words ethics and tact...

Tjeezers 07-04-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 14423064)
I can tell that you both are not professional, Sex2Have & Porn Ass, because simple logic is lost on you...

i`m not even going to take you serious. I'm more professional then your little brain can understand. But I give you a tip, start growing some balls instead of chewing on them!

Altheon 07-04-2008 06:23 PM

### Everyone Take a Deep Breath ###






When I logged into my AEBN account on Tuesday I saw the same message. I sent an e-mail to my rep and this is the response he gave me:

"Shawn here. As you noticed, we've completely revamped AEBN.net. The "Do Not Pay" status notification was applied with the unveiling of the new layout, but is unfortunately showing up on accounts that it shouldn't. I understand your concerns, but I can assure you that your account is in good standing. We are working to have the notification removed from the accounts that it is mistakenly showing up on."

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-04-2008 06:38 PM

Thanks Altheon for your time to explain AEBN tech mess up
 
Thank you Altheon for your post,

It really looked like they were just fucking with me... I could not understand for one moment why they would do such a thing, however, I have had issues with them in the past that left a bad taste in my mouth.

You would have thought that their techs would have made sure that such an error message would have been noticed and fixed ASAP due to the impression it gives when their associates when logging in...

With all the money AEBN earns, why hire techs who are creating such problems as to put off associates and lose out on sales? Come on AEBN you can afford some professionals!

Thanks again for clearing up the matter Altheon because I took great offense having a note just stating "Do Not Pay" on my account when I first login...

Tjeezers 07-04-2008 07:17 PM

The bad taste in your mouth is easy to explain, see my post above.

Zuzana Designs 07-04-2008 07:19 PM

Have always done well with them. Glad to see it will be resolved !!

PMdave 07-04-2008 08:05 PM

LOL at the tech error explentaion. Nice way to get out of doing some difficult explaining and save face.


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