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DVTimes 10-15-2008 04:47 PM

Porn Tube sites have killed porn
 
Would you get into porn now?

I do not think I would.

Tube Porn sites have killed porn.

Supz 10-15-2008 04:49 PM

why dont you just make a tube site.

Fat Panda 10-15-2008 05:02 PM

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xmas13 10-15-2008 05:06 PM

Start a (real) business.

Eriic 10-15-2008 05:11 PM

Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......

SomeCreep 10-15-2008 05:24 PM

Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.

EXPORT 10-15-2008 05:28 PM

not only...but also xxxjay killed porn

brassmonkey 10-15-2008 05:29 PM

people want it fast and tube sites have the videos right there some have full videos

Intervader 10-15-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14904971)
Tube sites haven't killed porn, but they've definitely helped to worsen conversion ratios.


That depends on what your promoting. By selling unique products, tube sites will not effect your revenue as much. Examples of this are cam sites, dating and our 3D Sex World

CherryV 10-15-2008 05:39 PM

If tube sites killed porn they would soon have no content to update with.

camgirlshide 10-15-2008 05:45 PM

I still don't understand why the following policies are not in effect:

1. If you see a tube site sign up for your program and start sending you traffic - immediately drop them for a TOS violation and do not send them any money.
2. If you see a sponsor you promote not follow #1, immediate drop them and stop sending them any traffic.

camgirlshide 10-15-2008 05:57 PM

To go along with my previous message - I noticed one affiliate program which has several sites listed on my sites has a 36 5 minute movies posted on tube#. Now, we all know that since every other video on tube# is 15 to 30 min long they certainly don't own this content. Why this particular program believes they can make money by interleaving their 5 min preview videos in the middle of all this stolen content is beyond me. I am now removing all of their links from my sites.

Hopefully this particular program will re-evaluate their priorities and we can work together in the future.

p.s. -
I say tube# and don't name the affiliate program because I don't believe either deserves the advertising that comes with a mention by name

farkedup 10-15-2008 06:01 PM

poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...

camgirlshide 10-15-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 14905183)
poor baby, now just go start a tube of your own and QUIT WHINING! evolve or get a real job!

This is just like TGP's back in the day, some will survive but lots won't...

Nothing wrong with starting a tube site
I wouldn't be advocating starting one that steals content though

papill0n 10-15-2008 06:48 PM

thanks for letting us know

Fap 10-15-2008 06:51 PM

..or they opened up a new door. theyre the next gen tgp

abyss_al 10-15-2008 06:58 PM

prechecks kill porn not tubes :2 cents:

webdeke 10-15-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al (Post 14905433)
prechecks kill porn not tubes :2 cents:

ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

L-Pink 10-15-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webdeke (Post 14905498)
ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --

Hahaha ..... yea the thieving pricks that own most big tubesites steal their content that's what keeps prices down. :helpme

abyss_al 10-15-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webdeke (Post 14905498)
ridiculous pricing spawned the tube phenomenon --


no, webmasters demanding higher payouts did :winkwink:

WarChild 10-15-2008 07:31 PM

I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

freshxxxmovie 10-15-2008 07:31 PM

50% agree!

Brad Mitchell 10-15-2008 09:47 PM

I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

Brad

XXXMovie4M 10-15-2008 10:25 PM

just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

SKULL 10-15-2008 11:26 PM

surfers love tube sites.... a lot of us hate them ... they do hurt conversions

XXXMovie4M 10-16-2008 01:29 AM

so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

it's just a matter of time before they fail.

Jens Van Assterdam 10-16-2008 03:41 AM

Bullshit.

halfpint 10-16-2008 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 14906805)
so if the conversions are bad with paysites, how bad do you think they are with tube site upsales?

it's just a matter of time before they fail.

You are very wrong. The small sponsor tube sites with short clips will disapear unless they are niche tube sites, The big tubes will continue and make even more money. Why do you think they upsell cams, dating, poker, pills ect because you cant get these for free, so people pay to join these types of sites plus ontop of that they make money from advertising. If you put ads in your movies they generate a lot of revenue too. The big tubes most prob make a lot more money than the average paysite and they aint gonna go any where anytime soon as I see it.

BVF 10-16-2008 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk (Post 14904785)
Would you get into porn now?

I do not think I would.

Tube Porn sites have killed porn.

You are like SO fucking profound!!!

cognitos 10-16-2008 08:03 AM

Rewind a few years, and the manufacturers of everything steam powered were saying how the diesel engine had destroyed the locomotive industry. Diesel engines were powered by oil stolen by colonial powers from remote locations such as Iran and Iraq.

ADL Colin 10-16-2008 08:12 AM

say whaaaaaaat! Porn tubes = $$$$.

Mr. Porn 10-16-2008 08:55 AM

me not agree... :pimp


me see long term effect... :helpme



me feel tube site owners makin $$$$$$$$$$$ 2 years from now... :upsidedow



errrr legitimate tubesites...:thumbsup

_andy_ 10-16-2008 09:08 AM

The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.

vidvicious 10-16-2008 09:28 AM

Shady business practices killed the adult market .. Tubes are just a new part of that.

Mr. Porn 10-16-2008 09:32 AM

:upsidedow
Quote:

Originally Posted by _andy_ (Post 14907817)
The fact that hardcore porn is readily available to minors via tube sites is pretty unbelievable. I would think that eventually there would be a law passed against them.



yes... 100 fuckin percent!!! :upsidedow


errrr....

WarChild 10-16-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 14906377)
just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're just saying things and hoping it's true.

nardegas 10-16-2008 10:05 AM

All paysites should put 1 dollars per month!!

untill the tube sites quit!

Jens Van Assterdam 10-16-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 14906377)
just give tubes sites enough time and they will be out of business. tube sites attract cheap people so any upsales they have will be useless. it's like trying to sell tenderloin steaks at the soup kitchen.

they'll eventually lose their asses on bandwidth charges and poor upsales.

Dream on surfer!

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count of monte cristo 10-16-2008 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 14906196)
I spent 2 hours the other night surfing one of my client's tube sites. I have to be honest, there's no question why they are killing sales and getting all the traffic. To call them sticky would be the understatement of the year!

Brad

i did the same thing. the trend seems similar to what napster was for free music. unsettling.

ADL Colin 10-16-2008 10:38 AM

This thread is making me hungry

fujiko 10-16-2008 11:30 AM

the only people supportin tubes, are these idiots that are trying to sell their stink ass scripts.

SykkBoy 10-16-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eriic (Post 14904891)
Start a documentary about how the economy + tubsites have killed porn and webmasters have to turn to minimum wage jobs cause they don't have viable skills in real life and how many will end up on welfare and still be employed at Walmart......

who are you kidding? most people in this industry are way underqualified to work at Walmart...they'd be more apt to become one of those sign twirler guys who stand on street corners twirling big oversized signs for real estate companies and shitty pizza places...

tranza 10-16-2008 11:42 AM

Are you going to leave porn because of it?

ADL Colin 10-16-2008 11:48 AM

Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.

http://linkification.com/linked/walmartchick.jpg

RTP 10-16-2008 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14908670)


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CHMOD 10-16-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14905620)
I convert tube traffic at a much better ratio than I do TGP traffic. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize. :thumbsup

You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
The good thing is that you don't know it. It seems like you even think you are brilliant.
:helpme

You NEVER EVER have anything interresting to say, you always critizise everyone,
trying to (cause you never really succeeded, I mean..no one finds you funny but your own self) to make fun of people.

Man are you annoying. And useless. You are a piece of garbage. It is the last thing I will ever write to you and I won't even come back to read your stupid reply.

WarChild 10-16-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 14908724)
GFY is well known for having a lot of brainless idiots posting.

I have been reading many posts from you and I have to say :
Upon all of these idiots, you really win the grand prize. :thumbsup

You are so fucking stupid it is not even funny. I even sometimes feel sorry fo you.
The good thing is that you don't know it. It seems like you even think you are brilliant.
:helpme

You NEVER EVER have anything interresting to say, you always critizise everyone,
trying to (cause you never really succeeded, I mean..no one finds you funny but your own self) to make fun of people.

Man are you annoying. And useless. You are a piece of garbage. It is the last thing I will ever write to you and I won't even come back to read your stupid reply.

You think Quebec is a country. Enough said on who's the bright one here.

mynameisjim 10-16-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14908670)
Sure, just like Wal Mart killed Circuit City and hundreds of other businesses. And the whole thing was well-documented all the way from the start. And what was Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart was THE low-cost provider.

What is the #1 thing you should have done in 1985 armed with that knowledge? I'd go with BUY WAL MART stock.

Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.

Twistys Tim 10-16-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14908754)
Not sure I follow you here. Wal Mart is a legal business. I think the problem people have with tube sites is they are all illegal.

If Wal Mart employees broke into other stores at night, stole their inventory, then sold it via Wal Mart stores it would be an appropriate analogy.

Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.

mynameisjim 10-16-2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 14908821)
Wal-Mart have got very rich by purchasing the merchandise they sell from markets where there are very loose or non-existent labor laws. One of the bonuses for Wal-Mart was that they could employ children in these markets, and pay them a pittance. It is only when Wal-Mart get caught, and shamed, that they stop using child labor. If nobody cared about kids making stuff for Wal-Mart to sell, then Wal-Mart would have continued and expanded the use of child labor. They got caught, they said sorry, and promised to not get caught again. Many large companies use a model where the profits are measured against a possible average fine, and if they can break the law for 10-years and make off like bandits before getting caught and fined, then they will make off like bandits.

Somewhat true. But you are bringing up a totally separate topic. Not to mention, the smaller stores Wal Mart "put out of business" were all selling the same products made in third world countries with loose labor laws. Wal Mart was just able to buy more of it at a lower cost.

But still, are you suggesting because Wal Mart at one time used child labor that tube sites should be able to steal content as a legitimate business model. I fail to see the connection.


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