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xmas13 10-19-2008 05:02 AM

Obama's lead slips to 3 points - Reuters
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...49G0V320081019

Democrat Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race has dropped to 3 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 48 to 45 percent among likely U.S. voters, down 1 percentage point from Saturday. The four-day tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Pollster John Zogby said the numbers were good news for McCain, and probably reflected a bump following his appearance in the third and final presidential debate on Wednesday.

"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.

He said the Arizona senator appeared to have solidified his support with the Republican base -- where 9 out of 10 voters now back him -- and was also gaining ground among the independents who may play a decisive role in the November 4 election.

Obama's lead among independent voters dropped to 8 points on Sunday from 16 points a day earlier.

SoloGirlsContent 10-19-2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 14920453)
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...49G0V320081019

Democrat Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race has dropped to 3 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 48 to 45 percent among likely U.S. voters, down 1 percentage point from Saturday. The four-day tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Pollster John Zogby said the numbers were good news for McCain, and probably reflected a bump following his appearance in the third and final presidential debate on Wednesday.

"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.

He said the Arizona senator appeared to have solidified his support with the Republican base -- where 9 out of 10 voters now back him -- and was also gaining ground among the independents who may play a decisive role in the November 4 election.

Obama's lead among independent voters dropped to 8 points on Sunday from 16 points a day earlier.


That's a GOP slanted poll. Gallup has him up by 8 points

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 07:57 AM

all the mccain supporters I know just keep to themselves they dont talk 24/7 about him they will just show up and vote (they did register because they understand how voting works)

the obama supporters dont stop yapping and yelling and screaming "vote for change" (they will get change alright, pocket change that is)

and someone made a good point the other day tons of blacks are voting for obama because hes black and tons of whites are voting for mccain because hes white.

As of now no doubt obama is leading, but the race aint over till its over.

NoComments 10-19-2008 08:00 AM

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 10/12 - 10/18 -- -- 48.8 43.8 Obama +5.0
Rasmussen Reports 10/16 - 10/18 3000 LV 2.0 51 45 Obama +6
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 10/16 - 10/18 1210 LV 2.9 48 45 Obama +3
Hotline/FD 10/16 - 10/18 795 LV 3.5 48 41 Obama +7
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/15 - 10/17 2572 LV 2.0 49 47 Obama +2
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/15 - 10/17 2263 LV 2.0 50 46 Obama +4
IBD/TIPP 10/13 - 10/17 1093 LV 3.0 47 40 Obama +7
GWU/Battleground 10/12 - 10/16 800 LV 3.5 49 45 Obama +4

Tat2Jr 10-19-2008 08:03 AM

The day we get rid of the electorial college is the day these national polls mean anything what so ever. State by state. That's all that counts.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

IllTestYourGirls 10-19-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 14920705)
The day we get rid of the electorial college is the day these national polls mean anything what so ever. State by state. That's all that counts.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

And that is all that should count. And every state by state poll Ive seen has Obama winning in a land slide

escorpio 10-19-2008 08:06 AM

These polls are setting the country up for a chimpout of major proportions if Obama loses.

spanky part 2 10-19-2008 08:07 AM

I don't give a shit about national polls.

What I see is a candidate that is being forced to defend states that haven't been in play for 30+ years and not being able to campaign in the states he needs to win.

It's over "my friends" and all because he thought it would work to have a cute idiotic woman for a running mate.:thumbsup

Have you seen the news lately? 100,000 cam out to see Obama in St. Louis and another 75k in Kansas City and then Powell endorsing him this morning.

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 14920713)
I don't give a shit about national polls.

What I see is a candidate that is being forced to defend states that haven't been in play for 30+ years and not being able to campaign in the states he needs to win.

It's over "my friends" and all because he thought it would work to have a cute idiotic woman for a running mate.:thumbsup

Have you seen the news lately? 100,000 cam out to see Obama in St. Louis and another 75k in Kansas City and then Powell endorsing him this morning.

i dont know anyone who switched to obama because of mccains VP choice, yes everyone i know hates his pick but none enough to vote for obama

Tat2Jr 10-19-2008 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 14920713)
I don't give a shit about national polls.

What I see is a candidate that is being forced to defend states that haven't been in play for 30+ years and not being able to campaign in the states he needs to win.

It's over "my friends" and all because he thought it would work to have a cute idiotic woman for a running mate.:thumbsup

Have you seen the news lately? 100,000 cam out to see Obama in St. Louis and another 75k in Kansas City and then Powell endorsing him this morning.

If McCain calls me his friend one more time I'm gonna flip out. How creepy? I don't even know the guy.

NoComments 10-19-2008 08:11 AM

EB, now you do. Me.
If Obama picked Hilary and Mccain picked somebody respectable - I'd vote Republican as usual.

Fletch XXX 10-19-2008 08:12 AM

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/...lin-powell.jpg

LadyMischief 10-19-2008 08:13 AM

Colin Powell just endorsed Obama. That should help things a little :)

marcjacob 10-19-2008 08:14 AM

The danger is that Obama supporters will think he has it in the bag and not bother to vote. That said, Americans seem to take their right to vote alot more seriously than us non Americans so Im not sure how much of an issue this is. If this was outside the USA, he would badly need to play down his chances to make sure he gets his full vote out.

IllTestYourGirls 10-19-2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 14920722)
Colin Powell just endorsed Obama. That should help things a little :)

Ya a person who lied to the world to sell the Iraq war is aways a good endorsement. :thumbsup

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920720)
EB, now you do. Me.
If Obama picked Hilary and Mccain picked somebody respectable - I'd vote Republican as usual.

Well here is what you posted Feb 10 2008

"I am white, I am registered Republican and I'll vote for Obama if he is nominated. If Hillary is nominated I'll vote for McCain. If McCain runs with Huck and runs against Hillary, I'll stay home and jerk myself 'til my dick becomes BLACK!!."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=806342

Like I said those who supported mccain from the get go are still supporting him, there is way more to an election than a VP pick

Jman 10-19-2008 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920715)
i dont know anyone who switched to obama because of mccains VP choice, yes everyone i know hates his pick but none enough to vote for obama

And you think they will admit they are switching... At the end of the day they will be alone in that cubicle to vote and THAT's pretty much what counts.

David! 10-19-2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 14920722)
Colin Powell just endorsed Obama. That should help things a little :)

Republicans hate him, most Democrats despise him. He symbolized the failed Iraq war, his support is as genuine as Clinton's and Jesse Jackson's :2 cents:

Antonio 10-19-2008 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 14920717)
If McCain calls me his friend one more time I'm gonna flip out. How creepy? I don't even know the guy.

fucking weird, he keeps calling me "THAT ONE" ;(

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 14920737)
And you think they will admit they are switching... At the end of the day they will be alone in that cubicle to vote and THAT's pretty much what counts.

same goes to many blacks who cannot admit they rather mccain

thats why im saying this is truly a race that is not over until its over because many will say one thing and do another

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 14920739)
Jesse Jackson's :2 cents:

old but still good "cut his nuts off" lol I mean thats silly talk regardless what he thinks about obama

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4aLGkFpsdHo

David! 10-19-2008 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920745)
old but still good "cut his nuts off" lol I mean thats silly talk regardless what he thinks about obama

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4aLGkFpsdHo

Or Jackson's talk about Israel that he later denied, made as a way to sabotage Obama...

Manowar 10-19-2008 08:33 AM

colin powell isn't the best endorsement but i bet it will help

David! 10-19-2008 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14920682)
That's a GOP slanted poll. Gallup has him up by 8 points

Yeah, Zogby is a big old GOP plant :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NoComments 10-19-2008 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14920725)
Ya a person who lied to the world to sell the Iraq war is aways a good endorsement. :thumbsup

oh yeah, this is what I was waiting for:

Colin Powell is ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!

http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

NoComments 10-19-2008 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920733)
Well here is what you posted Feb 10 2008

"I am white, I am registered Republican and I'll vote for Obama if he is nominated. If Hillary is nominated I'll vote for McCain. If McCain runs with Huck and runs against Hillary, I'll stay home and jerk myself 'til my dick becomes BLACK!!."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=806342

Like I said those who supported mccain from the get go are still supporting him, there is way more to an election than a VP pick


EB, am I consistent or what!?

At my age one doesn't remember what one said in February, thank you for making my point for me.

IllTestYourGirls 10-19-2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920766)
oh yeah, this is what I was waiting for:

Colin Powell is ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!

http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

The left has been bashing him for years.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=863002

It takes a brainwashed Obama supporter of a special type to think Colin Powells endorsement is a good, other than the fact it may grab some votes from McCain.

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920769)
EB, am I consistent or what!?

At my age one doesn't remember what one said in February, thank you for making my point for me.

not really, right out of the gate you said "I am white, I am registered Republican and I'll vote for Obama if he is nominated." now you say that it was palin that made you change your mind

those who where for mccain from the start still are, palin is a bad pick for sure but like I said there is way more to this election.

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14920772)
The left has been bashing him for years.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=863002

It takes a brainwashed Obama supporter of a special type to think Colin Powells endorsement is a good, other than the fact it may grab some votes from McCain.

if powell was white it would be a different story, no doubt hes done lots of good and served this country with all his heart but this race became a race thing too

NoComments 10-19-2008 08:46 AM

excuse me, you posted yourself all qualifications I made for it, didn't I?

"puck, Palin, puck" just sealed the deal. Sorry, EB, but your judgement is
anti-american according to Palin,
you A - live in anti-american state
B do not live in the small town

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920785)
excuse me, you posted yourself all qualifications I made for it, didn't I?

"puck, Palin, puck" just sealed the deal. Sorry, EB, but your judgement is
anti-american according to Palin,
you A - live in anti-american state
B do not live in the small town

seriously dont care about palin and anything she has to say

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:00 AM

you should. If Mccain wins and loses his marble, SHE will be the President.
Scarry thought, isn't it?

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920787)
seriously dont care about palin and anything she has to say

EB, move to REAL AMERICA and take your business there as well

http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...irginiamap.jpg

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920807)
you should. If Mccain wins and loses his marble, SHE will be the President.
Scarry thought, isn't it?

thats a maybe problem obama is a def problem and thats how I look at things, we can argue back and forth and its no secret that obama is leading but thats just how I feel and I respect your views as well

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:07 AM

EB, if something happens with you and your business in "real america", do you need a bail bondsman?

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920818)
EB, if something happens with you and your business in "real america", do you need a bail bondsman?

lol thats my family business for over 30 years so thats good

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920815)
thats a maybe problem obama is a def problem and thats how I look at things, we can argue back and forth and its no secret that obama is leading but thats just how I feel and I respect your views as well


Spoken like a real adult. Let's agree to disagree, this is America after all.

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 14920820)
lol thats my family business for over 30 years so thats good

ask them about Meese years....Sarah and her buddies are MUCH worse.

EscortBiz 10-19-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920825)
ask them about Meese years....Sarah and her buddies are MUCH worse.

shes not in office and look whats been happening just in the past year maxhardcore, evilang, and tons of smaller guys, most where led by state prosecutors vs. push from the top

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:16 AM

EB, 2 supreme court justices retire in the next 4 years. Just think of your business with 2 more conservative judges on the Supreme court....

Brujah 10-19-2008 09:17 AM

You may not appreciate Colin Powell, but you can agree with some of his comments at least.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/

"But he said McCain’s choices in the last few weeks — especially his selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his vice presidential running mate — had raised questions in his mind about McCain’s judgment."

..

"“Every day, there was a different approach,” he said, adding that he also “would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court.”"

tony286 10-19-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920832)
EB, 2 supreme court justices retire in the next 4 years. Just think of your business with 2 more conservative judges on the Supreme court....

people dont think about that and the bigger problem is they dont know their industries history.

NoComments 10-19-2008 09:42 AM

Tony, we live in the interesting times.
Folks with money and over 250k incomes like me vote Obama and millions of "no pot to piss in" rednecks voting McCain. Go figure.

xmas13 10-19-2008 09:47 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2PgV3_1_qlc

http://nextthing.files.wordpress.com...g-bush-mlk.jpg

xmas13 10-19-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920886)
Tony, we live in the interesting times.

Rule #1.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html

"No spamming other boards!"

Thank you.

tony286 10-19-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 14920886)
Tony, we live in the interesting times.
Folks with money and over 250k incomes like me vote Obama and millions of "no pot to piss in" rednecks voting McCain. Go figure.

You are right its sad people voting against their own best interests.

SL|M! 10-19-2008 09:58 AM

Zogby is a piece of shit poll. If anything this will motivate obama supporters not to stay home and actually go vote.

NoComments 10-19-2008 10:00 AM

xmas13, do you mind if I shit in your mouth? I want you to spot check my stool.

pigman 10-19-2008 10:25 AM

Barack Obama again leads John McCain nationally by 10 points among all registered voters, 52% to 42%.

Snake Doctor 10-19-2008 02:06 PM

You can't read too much into one poll. If you could, I could say Obama is up by 14.

Realclearpolitics and Pollster.com have averages of all the major polls, that number is most likely the most accurate. (right now Obama +5)

The only new polls reporting right now are the daily tracking polls, which fluctuate wildly. The "real polls" taken after the debate (NBC/WSJ, Zogby's regular (not tracking) polls, Yahoo/AP, CBS/Washignton Post) will come out on Tuesday or Wednesday, and that's when we'll know if the momentum is shifting or not. :2 cents:


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