I, for one, welcome our new Democrat overlords
 

Get yourself ready to hear these two things.

"I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear....."

and

"Filibuster proof majority"

Since 1980 the republicans have been trying do "undo" the New Deal, and now the democrats are going to put it back together again.

Woot woot :glugglug

I can't be happy for the Dems winning until this thing is over.

This is a lot like Obama going over to Germany giving speeches. Too soon. :1orglaugh

don't know about Germany, but I agree that it is too soon ... RepubliKans have still many tricks up their sleeves :2 cents:

Was many months ago he went and spoke overseas. Regardless of who it is, I think its a tad presumptuous to be speaking on foreign land like he is already the president. lol

you're just mad cause McCain can't remember where Germany is..

Or if they're our allies or not.

wasn't he prisoner of war there ????:winkwink:

:2 cents:

Short memory you have there.

It was McCain who goaded him into taking the trip in the first place.

Ranting on and on about how he hadn't been to Iraq and Afghanistan is so many months and hadn't met so and so leaders etc.
Obama taking him up on that was bad news for McCain.


An American politician, a Senator on the foreign relations committee, speaking in a foreign country about American values and how we all need to work together in the future is hardly presumptuous.
Republicans are just pissed off that McCain didn't think to do it first.

I got you, so if you make fun of me for not going to Irag or Afghanistan then heading to Germany to make a presumptuous appearance is the equivalent. Awesome! :thumbsup

He went all over the middle east and europe to meet leaders, not just germany to make a speech.

over and a week or two into it just to be sure.

I sooooo hope the Dems take over, we need someone to turn this place back right side up. lmao

My husband told me about an hour ago that he can't wait to see another tampon commercial.......... SO many political commercials and it is sooo old now. lmao

Presumptuous. :2 cents::winkwink:

How dare you let your <air quotes>facts</air quotes> get in the way of his partisan rant?

Don't you get it?
Obama = Bad
McCain = Good

If Obama gives a speech in Germany it's "presumptuous"

If McCain gave a speech in Germany it would be "An American hero strengthening our international alliances"

You damn liberals with your <air quotes>facts</air quotes> just don't understand.

I don't think they'll grab the filibuster proof 60 seats. I think they'll fall 1 or 2 seats short.

Yeah, that's the dream scenario for libs though.

Even with 57 or 58 seats there's almost nothing they won't be able to do....because most of the important stuff (taxes, health care, Iraq, etc) will be part of, or attached to, budget bills....and budget bills are not subject to filibuster.

He better win!!

I'm not too confident anything will change. They've showed they are too pussy to make any changes and would rather sit around playing politics. It does beat a party that is just going around fucking up the country though.

I call it good planning and getting a head start on diplomacy and world affairs for the probable next POTUS. :2 cents::winkwink:

"Facts" have a well known and established liberal bias.

I totally disagree with that.

There was no point in passing things only to have the president veto them, so they had to shelve those things and just do what they could in the meantime.

Prior to the 2006 election most people assumed that if the Dems got the majority, the President would have to work with them and compromise on some things, the way Clinton did with the Republican majority in the 90's. (yeah there was the shutdown and all of that, but afterwards they were able to find the middle ground on alot of things)

Instead, the President was willing to stand his ground and run out the clock. This President is uniquely ignorant and stubborn in that way.

From Colbert's lips to God's ears.

we were happy to have him here, people love him.

and we will be even more happy to welcome him again as the new president :winkwink:

we would be great allies if you had a president that would not attack other countries for made up reasons :2 cents:

The Democratic party of this generation can't get anything done in the senate or congress. NO SENATOR has any balls on the democrat side.
They simply roll over to demands.

I fear the next 4 years no matter who gets in.

Oh please. People put them in power to end the war and fix the bad policies. All they did was cave left and right on those. FISA, war bills, budgets, offshore drilling, etc. They didn't take a single stand on anything.

Make excuses all you want, but they have the power to pass stuff and let the Prez veto it. That's what they were put in power for. They'd rather play politics than take a stand.

I love your spin Uno you know that. :winkwink:

rotflmao......

Between dodgy voting machines and illegal purges of the electoral roll, the right wing nazis have got this one sewn up - and then there's always the false flag terror attack / martial law possibility.

Right about there you will probably hear a gun shot from some fucking hillbilly who can't stand the thought of a negro being president.

Yes and with a razor thin majority they were supposed to run roughshod over a President who obviously cares nothing about his legacy and clings to his ideology. Apparently you have no idea how the real world works.

You need 60 votes to get anything done in the Senate that isn't part of the budget (assuming the President will sign it into law, if he vetoes you need 67 votes). The Democrats had 51 votes.
Maybe in your world they should have spent months drafting and voting on legislation that had no hope of becoming law, but that's not the way the real world works.

Of course if you need a scapegoat to blame all of the world's ills on, I guess they're as easy a target as any.

Budgets, war costs, FISA all needed to be approved by Congress. They all passed with massive Democratic support.

Democrats could have ended the war by cutting funding. They could have demanded troop withdrawals by cutting funding. That is what the American people voted them into power to do. Instead, they sat on their hands and whined. They decided that some innocent lives were worth losing as long as they could keep their seats and gain more power.

I stand by my statement. Democrats in power are pussies. Drafting and voting on legislation is their jobs. I'm sorry you feel that their time is better spent figuring out whether Roger Clemens used steroids. Bring up the legislation and put the heat on the President or the Republicans in Congress.

But it's better than Republicans who actually do make changes, albeit shitty ones that hurt the country. Democrats win because they're the lesser of two evils.

Nah McCain wont meet with Germany now either :winkwink:

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

I don't think cutting off funding for troops in harm's way just to prove you're not a "pussy" is the responsible thing for elected officials to do. Apparently you do.

They won't be in harms way. As many Democrats stated, you set a time table and start slowly bringing back the troops. If we wanted the President to have a blank check, we'd have voted Republican.

Let's talk FISA then. Why cave to the Republicans on that? Why give the telcos immunity for their crimes? Odd how the Republicans can get their bill passed with less members in Congress.

agree :thumbsup

No hes just mad because Mccain did make the trip and nobody but street walkers showed up to listen. Mccain couldnt assemble a group of old people at a retirement home let alone a crowd in ANY country.