Human Trafficking
 

I just saw the movie Human Trafficking yesterday, and it was messed up! :helpme

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Do any of you live in countries where this is a real problem? And, do the guys that visit these brothels not care that these are trafficked girls? It seems like you would be able to tell the difference.

you're very naive.
its a big part of what makes you attractive.

I'll go as high as $2,500.00

I was talking to my brother who spent 30 years in the military. He had been to and worked in many 3rd world countries and ex soviet block countries. He has been to some bad places, shit pits.. Why the hell would a girl fuck or suck an animal be it a horse,dog, goat or whatever?

His answer was: People will do a lot to make the pain stop. That reallity hit me really fuckin' hard.

We can only hope the guys that visit the whore houses most likeley don't know the extent of the situation.

What do you want to know about it?

I live and travel to these countries and know girls who have been bought and sold, escaped and lived to tell about it. I've posted about some of these stories before.

And no, most of the foreign guys who visit these brothels never know they are fucking a sex slave.

There are labor slaves too. Who do you think made 1/2 of the shit in your house? But that is ok right?

Mona, NOBODY cares about these people. That is the problem. From the USA to Cuba to Japan to Thailand to Brazil, girls are bought and sold and shipped all over the world. Parts of the governments, yes even the American government, has their hands on it. How do you think they get real passports?

Do your homework on sex and labor slaves and then come back and talk about it. Don't just watch 1 movie. There is a sickening amount of information on this topic out there and you and me both are all part of the problem (labor slaves).

What I meant was, We can only hope that the guys that visit the whore houses don't know the extent of the situation otherwise the world is even more fucked up.

Fucked up x2

By your sig I can tell you are more informed than me and most others here.

you know who gets some asian pussy easily in the US right? the perverted bastards that work in the office that gives out green cards and US citizenship! LOL. even though it's funny it's the truth. i know alot of asian girls who got their green cards because some guy "helped" them. of course we all know what the girl had to do to get that help.

so yes parts of the US government are involved.

There is more to it than that. People don't fuck animals or takes loads of countless strangers in their ass everyday because they are hurting.

They do it because if they don't, there is a consequence. Be it an ass kicking or they don't get fed for the night or they don't get shelter.

To stop the "pain" they do drugs. Lots of them. They become addicted to make the pain go away and then they can't leave the brothel / pimp because they now need the drugs. It's a NASTY game. In some cases the girls are given from their family because they family was in debt. Now the girl has to go and work off the debt. Of course she never does and if she gets hooked on drugs, all the "money" she "earns" is going back to mom and dad so she digs an even deeper hole by borrowing for the drugs.

In South East Asia this is nasty shit and common in the brothels that service locals. Not so much with the tourists but in some countries you will find it. Check between their toes for tracks where they have been shooting up. They won't do it on their arms or in places people can see it. Of course IV drug use sky rockets HIV infection so on top of being a hooker who will bareback anyone, she is sometimes shooting up with dirty needles on top of it.

Most guys who come over here and many who live here refuse to admit this goes on. They refuse to talk about it or are even blind to it because they want to be or are just to naive to really see what is going on around them. Truth be told I can walk out my door right now and drive to where I know of at least 100 girls who are slaves there in one form or another. Nobody cares about them now just the same as nobody cares about them when they will get sick. They will just be sent home to die and maybe replaced by the little sister because the older sister has yet to repay the debt the family owed.

They aren't pretty white blonds, with American/English surnames... Sorry to say this... but it's the truth.

You should take a look at this movie. "Trade" http://www.tradethemovie.com/ it's based on a true story from New Jersey. It's got it's happy ending, don't look at the trailer, just watch the movie.

I've been around a bit and when my eyes were opened to the subject I really started paying attention and researching this. As I said before I know a couple of girls who have been able to escape from such a thing. Their stories are unreal.

Slavery is very well alive today in this world. :Oh crap

This is a real problem in just about every country, including the US. I could point you to about 100 establishments in San Francisco alone using those girls. It's horrifying.

San Francisco is FULL of trafficked women. :Oh crap

I want to say so much and I'm having a hard time writing anything meaningful here. It's pretty much a hard topic. So I'll leave it at that.

The Porn industry is full of this stuff too, alot of people promote porn. And yes, labor conditions for alot of the bargain price stuff you buy for your homes are not good either.

Anyone know where I can buy me some bitches? I just want 3-4 hot young girls to service me on a regular basis, they have to be clean. I'll pay their food and board and won't beat them too much.

In response to your quote earlier, sometimes it takes a "movie" (or book) to open a person's eyes to the situation. Kite Runner REALLY got me thinking about Afghanistan:2 cents: Anyway, though the movie is a far cry (or not, I don't know) from an accurate representation, it does start the ball rolling so that one can continue his/her investigations.

I asked about it here because I figured that a person or two on this board (comprised of men in porn) has been to a whorehouse and that many would have been exposed to this terrible form of slavery. I could read about it on Wikipedia, but it's not the same.

I am naive about a lot of things, but I try my best to continue my education to understand the world better!

So, if people KNOW that these women are trafficked, what do you do to help them? Or, as someone says, nobody cares?

Whatever opened your eyes to it, did the job and that's all that matters. :thumbsup I meant don't stop there at just the movie to educate yourself on the subject.

There are various groups and NGOs around the world that help with human trafficking but the problem is that outside of these groups, nobody cares. It's kind of like the illegal drug business, there are all kinds of groups and law enforcement to try to curb it but truth is there is too much money in it and everyone has their hands in it so nothing really happens other than a bust here or there but even those busts do nothing to stop it.

The other problem is many of these women end up right back in the same place. I forget who it was, the BBC or Al Jeerzera, but one of them had a 1 or 2 hour show dedicated to human trafficing not too long ago. They were in Europe and buying girls (about 700) from these pimps. They would get the girl out of there, take her to a shelter, feed her and get her medical attention and try to help her. Most of the girls would actually run away from the shelter over time and go right back to the same pimps that sold them in the first place. Sadly for many of these girls, this is all they know.

Mona, if you want to get involved or just learn more, there are many NGOs and organizations on this site as well as a wealth of information on a per country basis.

HumanTrafficking.org

Many people care, but it's an uphill battle. The girls are under lock and key, and threatened with killing them or their families if they try to leave or tell anyone.
I have heard of some Russian girls managing to tell a return customer what was going on and he helped them escape, but they said they still live in fear every day that the guys are going to retaliate.

good point, many of the girls wouldn't want you to interfere, unless of course you were willing to marry them and pay off all of their debts for them too

Thanks! I just checked it out, and will look into more a little later...

Makes you (aka. me) feel like an asshole for complaining about stuff like having to get up early, etc. :2 cents:

good stuff...
watched it some time ago...

the movie "Trade" that is mentioned here is based on this article. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/ma...x=139 0366800 It is a stunning, sad and eye opening story.

What is most sad is that most people don't know about it and those that do don't seem to care.

slavery, prostitution, arranged marriages, forced abortions, population control, global wealth distribution, animal rights, AIDS fatality rates in africa, starvation in many developing countries.
These are all problems we have to deal with as a member of the human race.

This is exactly why I feel that a lot of these issues go "unnoticed." There are SO many that it becomes overwhelming!!! :Oh crap

It is totally overwhelming.

Here is what you can do. Find something you are passionate about (in terms of helping others) and do it. Help every chance you get. Find the right organizations or do what you can, anyway you can.

If you want my honest opinion, and it is based on my personal experience with these girls, and that is that most of them are a lost cause. Let the groups who are already in place try to save them and if they can, they will. You nor I are not gonna do much to save them the same as you nor I can stop a dam from bursting by sticking a finger in a leaking hole.

I support children. I sponsor several shelters in Thailand and Loas and just about to start in Cambodia thanks to GXbill Sam's sister who hooked me up with some proper groups in Phenom Phen. Get them young while you can still make a difference is what I think. Saving a girl from a life of forced prostitution or labor is something I am unable to do unless someone gives me a tactical unit (and diplomatic immunity) to extract them from their location and deliver them to a house where they will be cared for. Buuuuut.... that ain't gonna happen and saving slaves is not MY passion.

As horrible as it is (slavery), there is too much money in it and too many serious criminals behind it to stop it. It can break your heart if you really think about it too much. But what can you do? I'm not gonna get killed by the Yakuza in Japan for trying to stop their flow of sex slaves into the country.

Totally man. The world is as wretched as it is beautiful.

THESE are issues worth fighting over. Not oil. :2 cents:

i am probably a few years older than you, at early youth everything is changeable and can be fixed, but as you mature you start to accept the world for what it is and realize change doesnt happen overnight. also many issues are "black and white" whereas when you mature large areas become more gray areas.
many of these issues are coming from un-equal wealth distribution more or less mixed in with cultural/political differences between continents/religions etc.
both of those "animals" are very hard to change but in general we are going in the right direction as the world becomes better schooled and educated.

yes I live in the US. its a big problem

I watched the movie and also felt it was very impactive. You know there are horrible things going on in the world, but it's easy to block those things out by focusing on the details of our own lives. But it does go on everywhere, in every country/region...I think that was one of the better points made by the movie.

Watch the movie Lilja 4 ever to get some insight into this disgusting part of human reality. That one is about eastern block girls coming into Sweden. There is also a Brazilian movie same theme, cant remember the name.

I think the older you get you realize that this cesspool we call earth is pretty much beyond hope, many of the most monstrous things are even happening in supposedly schooled and educated countries... even the supposed good guys are capable of condoning torture methods if it fits their cause

some people think it is perfectly fine to chase a wolf around with a helicopter as it runs desperately for it's life until it is finally to the point of complete exhaustion before they shoot it for sport

as I get older I might start to think that the whole world would be better off if a giant comet came along and obliterated the whole mess instantaneously

:Oh crap:helpme

I live in Thailand part of the year. Despite what most of you think, the vast majority of the prostitutes do it to MAKE MONEY! They weren't forced to do anything. They did it because sadly it's about the most lucrative position for a woman in this part of the world. I can't tell you about the underage scene, because I haven't witnessed it, nor do I go looking for it. It used to exist quite prominently in Cambodia, but that's been largely cleaned up. When I first visited Cambodia there were girls in brothels and bars who were obviously underage. That has either come to an end or gone way underground.

I'd buy myself a nordic looking girl slave.