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marko13 10-27-2008 11:52 AM

Can search engines penalize you if you put too many html pages
 
in very short time.... i am talking about seo html pages deep in your site structure....

like domain.com/some-words/description-of-those-words.html

and all different in title, h1 tag, banners and text

ScottXXX 10-27-2008 11:54 AM

yep

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marko13 10-27-2008 11:59 AM

and how much is daily limit so you can stay under the alarm....

ScottXXX 10-27-2008 12:04 PM

Who knows... I don't write google algo's, anyone here that tells you they do know is a liar. I do know that if you slapp up a several hundred page site and then do nothing with it you won't get much love. Anyways most of my stuff still seems to get sandboxed for a year or so... so it doesn't matter to much. Perhaps you'll have better luck.

My advice... grow your site organically as if it was a work in progress and don't worry about that you won't have anything to worry about.

CurrentlySober 10-27-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko13 (Post 14957950)
and how much is daily limit so you can stay under the alarm....

According to that 'Matt' guy whos something to do with google, the answer is related to the total number of pages already in your site. HTML pages, not dynamically generated php pages.

He said to count the number of pages in your site. Times it by your current google search position, then divide by the length of time your sits been online (in months)

X the page rank of your index page by 5 and divide by the number above... Then you have your result.

You can now safely add 15.5% new pages per day before google takes a shit and removes you from thier wankings...

marko13 10-27-2008 12:07 PM

i was planning to make 100 html pages per 12 hour period.... max of 200 per day.... on only one site.... now i will make same amount of pages but spreaded over several domains so no more than 50 pages per day per domain....

and thanks for your reply....

Jdoughs 10-27-2008 12:08 PM

It depends really.

Everything is relevant, there is thousands of sites that add thousands of pages (mostly useless) everyday and still hold very strong weight in the engines. Sites like youtube, myspace, wiki, craigslist etc etc. But its part of their NORMAL operation that makes this happen, for their site, its NATURAL. There is NO LIMIT to how many links OR pages you can add to a site every day. Its totally unique to each website, and more about consistency then a set amount.

Its more about the big picture then any one factor, and what you want is natural site development.

The only real answer is it depends.

Quote:

Do you plan to continually add pages forever, and be consistent in the addition of new pages?

Do said pages have relevance to your site visitors and a distinguishable theme behind them?

Do the pages each have unique but still relevant information or media that other pages don't?

Is the website user driven or clearly a one man show?

Are they affiliate type pages being added or content pages?

Is there a strong influx of inbound links that match up somewhat with the scale of the content additions?

Are your pages properly built to the engines eye? If not a small mistake is multiplied times however many pages you have added
There is probably 100 more I could ask, or would think about. Like I said, it depends.

- Jesus Christ - 10-27-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottXXX (Post 14957978)
grow your site organically

EDIT: Jdoughs said it better while I was typing my post!

ScottXXX 10-27-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14957988)
According to that 'Matt' guy whos something to do with google, the answer is related to the total number of pages already in your site. HTML pages, not dynamically generated php pages.

He said to count the number of pages in your site. Times it by your current google search position, then divide by the length of time your sits been online (in months)

X the page rank of your index page by 5 and divide by the number above... Then you have your result.

You can now safely add 15.5% new pages per day before google takes a shit and removes you from thier wankings...

hunh?

You don't have to factor in the sites page rank decay rate anymore?

CurrentlySober 10-27-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottXXX (Post 14958015)
hunh?

You don't have to factor in the sites page rank decay rate anymore?


Dunno mate... Maybe... Im a bit drunk tonight ! :)

marko13 10-27-2008 12:28 PM

thanks for all informations....
the info gives me few clues...
- to make a plan and follow it as much as i can
- spread the whole idea on several domains
- make groups of the html pages different from other groups
- hopefully wont get banned from google for doing the work...

CurrentlySober 10-27-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14958079)
Dunno mate... Maybe... Im a bit drunk tonight ! :)

And dont forget to take away the number you first thought of and divide by the total digits in the year that your mother was born in...

Eriic 10-27-2008 01:13 PM

Use Doorways and google will remove your site for that..

marketsmart 10-27-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eriic (Post 14958420)
Use Doorways and google will remove your site for that..

i use your mom's backdoorways..... :1orglaugh

Rorschach 10-27-2008 02:52 PM

Unless you have significant backlinks and continued backlink growth, 100 content pages per day is probably too much for most sites. As always, it's difficult to separate out the effects of various penalty / banning factors in real life...

seeandsee 10-27-2008 02:54 PM

try on one site and see results

Why 10-27-2008 03:23 PM

search engines can and will penalize you for anything they damned well please :)

can they, is kind of a silly question.

fusionx 10-27-2008 03:48 PM

Dunno.. but I generated aver 4,000 pages using some desktop software then dumped it all onto a new domain. That domain is #1 for the selected keyword, and has been for three months.

baddog 10-27-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14957988)
According to that 'Matt' guy whos something to do with google, the answer is related to the total number of pages already in your site. HTML pages, not dynamically generated php pages.

He said to count the number of pages in your site. Times it by your current google search position, then divide by the length of time your sits been online (in months)

X the page rank of your index page by 5 and divide by the number above... Then you have your result.

You can now safely add 15.5% new pages per day before google takes a shit and removes you from thier wankings...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

d-null 10-27-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 14957999)
It depends really.

Everything is relevant, there is thousands of sites that add thousands of pages (mostly useless) everyday and still hold very strong weight in the engines. Sites like youtube, myspace, wiki, craigslist etc etc. But its part of their NORMAL operation that makes this happen, for their site, its NATURAL. There is NO LIMIT to how many links OR pages you can add to a site every day. Its totally unique to each website, and more about consistency then a set amount.

Its more about the big picture then any one factor, and what you want is natural site development.

The only real answer is it depends.



There is probably 100 more I could ask, or would think about. Like I said, it depends.


NATURAL for their site, but I bet alot of this stuff is Google doing manual tweaking to let some sites get away with it, and the rest of us end up sandboxed or penalized if we have a rapid successful site that google can't understand why... ie. if you do off internet advertising or get alot of stumble traffic and google sees a forum grow really fast that they have not been sending google se traffic too, they tend to err on the penalize side.... and I hate them because of that bullshit.

Manowar 10-27-2008 04:40 PM

they change what they penalise people for all the time

Doctor Feelgood 10-27-2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14957988)
According to that 'Matt' guy whos something to do with google, the answer is related to the total number of pages already in your site. HTML pages, not dynamically generated php pages.

He said to count the number of pages in your site. Times it by your current google search position, then divide by the length of time your sits been online (in months)

X the page rank of your index page by 5 and divide by the number above... Then you have your result.

You can now safely add 15.5% new pages per day before google takes a shit and removes you from thier wankings...

then add the length of your dick and divide by the length of your taint :1orglaugh

mona 10-27-2008 06:50 PM

If you're doing it by hand and not vis-a-vie a software or some other "non-natural" thing, then you're probably okay.

Again, like many have said before me in this thread, we can't say anything for sure and what works for some sites doesn't for others.

However, Google likes meaningful content and sites that add value (whatever that means). So, if you're putting a lot of grunt work into creating content rich pages, I don't think Google is going to completely screw you over...:2 cents:

marko13 10-28-2008 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mona_klixxx (Post 14960697)
If you're doing it by hand and not vis-a-vie a software or some other "non-natural" thing, then you're probably okay.

Again, like many have said before me in this thread, we can't say anything for sure and what works for some sites doesn't for others.

However, Google likes meaningful content and sites that add value (whatever that means). So, if you're putting a lot of grunt work into creating content rich pages, I don't think Google is going to completely screw you over...:2 cents:

i am using a hand-made software that i very customize to look like every html page is being made seperately... and i realised that google can screw you in any case so it is worth of trying....


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