Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is...
 

finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________

what type a real one like a buying porn dvd or a site membership? To me someone paying you to do a design is not an adult transaction its a business one.

I agree Tony... But paypal doesnt... We shall see though... We both loose our paypal accounts... No problem on my end...

good way to lose your paypal account?
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Self flagellation

Just as fucking dumb and assine as you are in reality.

You're a fucking waste of flesh.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fucking stupid.

if the two companies names werent cum slut designs and my mother is whore llc. I think you could win it.

Retarded in so many ways.

is what scammers do when they want their money back

Typically not a problem at all. Especially for the buyer, not alway safe for the seller though. Unless the transaction was for something VERY adult.

Paypal Suicide!

Porn DVD, and hard, trackable, tangible transaction are allowed.

VIRTUAL transactions such as membership, web designs, sites, domains are not.

T.O.S. is your friend.

Been round and round in the past with PayPal on this very issue.

Risky....

Tootsie..

Cut and dry.you're pretty much fucked if it's non tangible:2 cents:

That is 100% correct.

You should know better man.No Paypal for Adult stuff,especially if it's design related.

aka..... reading their T.O.S.

I've gotten mine reinstated. It takes a few days to call up the food chain and get a supervisor, but eventually someone will call you back from a South Dakota area code and talk with you about it and you promise you don't use it for adult and only to buy stuff on ebay.

FYI if you ever submit for paypal merchant processing for something that even smells adult or against their terms they BAN YOU FOR LIFE.

Goddamn people.

If all else fails, fucking read..

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...side&ed=mature

:disgust

mavericky?

It's not really THAT clear actually, I would think hiring a designer is more of a "service" than a "good"... :2 cents:

http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1145820268.jpg

Your account is toast. Seen several designers get their accounts nailed for adult design.

reading that TOS, I am still wondering if it is safe to accept paypal for the sale of an adult domain?

Review Threat on talent

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=856392

A "professional" designer wouldn't be using tables, and would have put image placeholders for the thumbs.

XTNBruno has to say "I've seen better template.........."

GXM says "wow.... this template design makes me think of myself as a bit more than a professional......lol"

Sosa (love the cubs) "could use some work, I see some code probelms showing a black line between images"

Deej has this to say

"You went with that designer. You should full well know what you will be getting if you did any research.

What are you trying to say? You got what you should have been expecting.

Its not bad - Ive just never seen text and not actual placeholder pics.

Very basic - is that what you ordered? If so - Whats the issue?"

so what's going on here? this turned into some drama? buck30 is charging back a design job from Headless? is that what happened?

Headless does not reply to emails, and crys and complains about final changes, even though I am a fucking idiot and paid final payment BEFORE 2 sites finished. out of nearly $1400 asking for $320 back since I can't get .psd or a few final changes.
DesertCuties.com/new

nad work I might have got his attention..if he'd contact me..

Quote from Jason/Not another designer Thurs 30 Oct 6:57pm PDT

"Paysites dont HAVE nav bars."

Ouch-- that is the worst design *ever*
I feel your pain, don't get me wrong. But I can't but laught a little. To refer to that as a design is a gross misrepresentation.

You should have done your due diligence before contracting out the job to a guy who's skills haven't really received any praise, other than from his cohorts.

$1400 for THAT? Good grief... If I were you I'd charge back the full amount and go with someone else.

No not for THAT!

He got a paysite, an affiliate site, fhgs, etc etc.

Greg and Jane like to distort the facts. They like to play games to try and squeeze more and more work out of someone.

They like to try to play good cop bad cop. One gives you the specifics on what they want designed while the other turns around 2 weeks later saying it wasnt what was ordered trying to get you to redo it.

I made every final change they requested on their designs. I even made their button in their sig.

I have even had them be so petty as to fake emails and headers saying they wanted more changes when they never even sent the email. I can post all emailed with ALL the changes I made along with all the lies and bullshit I have had to deal with from these two.

I delivered their designs a MONTH ago, now they want another change again. A change that they should of mentioned when I first delivered their design's mock up. For example they want a nav bar on their paysite now. Well shouldn't they have mentioned that when I first showed them their final mock up? Why didnt they? Should they have said that when I delivered their paysite? THEY DIDNT!!!!!! Am I supposed to make major site wide changes a month after a design is delivered? Come on....

Greg I really do hope we both loose our paypal accounts. It would be a funny ending to this bullshit from you.

http://www.desertcuties.com/new/

'nuff said

Tell me about it, he made so many changes to the original design that it doesnt even reflect what it had originally looked like...

Why dont you back off and mind your fucking business instead of trying to troll me.

God why am I up... sleep i must get...

Not trying to troll you. Couldn't care less.
Just find this thread rather amusing in so many ways.

I will agree with you that every now and then it's difficult as hell to please a customer and they just keep coming back for more and more adjustments and additions. I've sold tons of design and dealt with tons of clients, so trust me, I know.

That being said, and I truly hope you take this the best way possible and learn from it, your design work lacks. I have no interest in trolling you (even if I do find that you act like an asshole more often than it benefits you), so I don't want to insult you or anything. However, if I were you, I WOULD spend a shitload of time improving my design skills before offering to sell design again. Otherwise you'll just keep running into situations like this one (or others that have caused a stink on here), because the clients simply won't be satisfied with the level of finishing your design work shows.

Best of luck to you.

http://www.desertcuties.com/new/

Fuck, someone would have to pay ME to fly that "design".

Headless why don't you stop the self abuse and get a real job?

Jason you lying son of a bitch. You made the worst templatesI have ever seen. When Greg asked you to fix them you threw a bitch fit. Greg even posted them on here to see if he was being harsh to you. Not one person like them at all, including me and they were my templetes. You did not deliver the site we wanted. Who the fuck wants flowers and shit on their website? That might for for a teen site, but we didn't ask you to build a teen site. It took you two weeks to even get back to us after you made a few changes. You still have yet to make a navigation bar for the desertcuties.com site. Your response of "Paysites dont HAVE nav bars" is total bullshit. They do have navigation bars. It took your lazy ass months to make the affiliate site DesertBucks. That site was supposed to be done by the middle of June. Greg also did send you what he wanted changed on Desert Cuties and you have yet to make the changes. He has sent you many messages that you never answer back to. Instead of bitching about it on here, get your ass to work and do what you were hired to do. As for the button in the sig, it took you almost two months to get that button to me. You are a shitty designer and a complete liar. Please post the e-mails so I can post the ones of you refusing to fix things even when you were asked to as soon as we saw the work you did.

Are you kidding me? The original design sucked shit. You had a bunch of flowers and a big ass picture of a webcam on the left side. You did not have a place for a sample video, and you did not have a list of reasons to join. You should be happy it looks a bit better now than the original design. Fuck post the original design on here and give everyone on here a good laugh. Either fix the shit or give a refund since you did not deliver a website even close to what we asked for.

uhuh
if you're referring to
http://www.desertcuties.com/new

it looks no better than anything!
it's flawed in so many ways I doubt anyone in his right mind would even bother to ellaborate on that...

Not true at all. Jason has had months to build this website and he fucks around. He does not answer any e-mails and he bitches when you ask him to make changes. I would not want a refund if his ass would actually finish the damn job. The website has no navigation bar, and he said an adult website does not need one. WTF?

Actually, it is that clear.

1. Wouldn't matter if adult, or not. It is still a virtual transaction.

Meaning no tracking number, nor tangible, so it would not be covered. Unless, you sent the design to them on disk, and you have a UPS tracking number or something to that effect.

I have heard this directly from PayPal on my disputes. Whether adult or not, if you can't PROVE you delivered (i.e. mail and tracking) then you have no case says PayPal.

Are we clear?

You did not see it before he made some changes. He actually thinks that website looks good. Perhaps he needs his eyes checked.

You lying sack of shit. This is the last I will respond to you and youre bullshit. Why dont you tell everyone how unstable you are. How you like to email pure drivel containing obcenities and other bullshit trying to strong arm me into more shit. No wonder people hate you on here. You and yours suck.

Fuck you.

Why dont you tell us all how you lied and forged email headers to try to get more changes made to your galleries.

Go fuck yourself. I am done with you and your lies.

One last response...

Since Greg doesnt have the balls to defend himself, he sicks you on me...

If you wanted a nav bar why did you approve the design without one? MONTHS AGO????

I like many other designers give clients final mock ups. If the client approves, that is what they get. Designers DO NOT go and change a site MONTHS after client has approved and delivery of the site.

Get real. I do suggest you idiots approve the paypal offer or risk getting your account closed by paypal.

Im kind of stunned that you took a design order from Jane B. In business, sometimes its better to turn a deal down :2 cents:

good luck Headless, nothing worse than communication breakdown with design clients.

and this thread is great.

it makes me want to design paysites. :1orglaugh