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emjay 04-12-2009 10:34 AM

900 Billing sucks
 
It does not even work with cellphones! And US consumers know that they are not legally obliged to pay, so many don't...

For the rest of the world, chargebacks are negligible since subscribers tend to pay their phone bills in full.

We can disable US so that our geo payment button does not appear there...

charlie3273 04-12-2009 12:06 PM

That would be a good idea most of the US is on cell phones only and so is china fyi. Good idea to block both countries.:2 cents:

emjay 04-12-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie3273 (Post 15735654)
That would be a good idea most of the US is on cell phones only and so is china fyi. Good idea to block both countries.:2 cents:

But since phone billing is practically the only way to monetize Chinese traffic, if the authorities there have not blocked you, deploy it!

notime 04-12-2009 12:39 PM

I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

Barefootsies 04-12-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15735733)
I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

That sums it up nicely chief.

emjay 04-12-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15735733)
I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

lol could not agree more Jacques, premium rate numbers rock - and PbP is powered by them.:) But, as with mobile, USA is a difficult market for premium rate billing:(

notime 04-12-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 15735738)

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 15735788)
lol could not agree more Jacques, premium rate numbers rock - and PbP is powered by them.:) But, as with mobile, USA is a difficult market for premium rate billing:(

1:100 is average in Holland
1:10 is a good weekend

US$ 29,95 a month = 1 US$ per day

But if Europeans are willing to pay 0,50 to 3,00 per MINUTE....and have a 7 to 12 minute average (EACH TIME THEY LOGIN!!...and that could be anywhere from 3 times a day to once a month..).

There is a market waiting to be discovered & claimed for our non-european based GFY friends.

If you think a am full of shit? There are at least 5 to 10 companies I know doing 10 to 100 million a year in our really small Netherlands or Belgium alone who only use 0900/sms/direct debits/prepaid cards with adult website and/or mobile sites.

Last year in Amsterdam I met a guy doing 2M monthly with livesex chats over phones/pda/iphones and he was from the UK, where I never even heard of that technology before I met him and he gave me a demo of the system.

If you target Europe; go for UK, Germany, Austria, Switserland, Holland, belgium, France, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Normay, Finland, Luxemburg, Spain, Italy, etc. etc.

CIVMatt 04-12-2009 01:24 PM

I love 900 as well

emjay 04-13-2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15735821)

There is a market waiting to be discovered & claimed for our non-european based GFY friends.

Indeed there is, big world out there lol

emjay 07-05-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15735821)
If you target Europe; go for UK, Germany, Austria, Switserland, Holland, belgium, France, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Normay, Finland, Luxemburg, Spain, Italy, etc. etc.

What he said. And don't forget to compare rates. Remember, a surfer from UK pays £1.50/Min., irrespective of which phone processor webmasters choose to work with. But the outpayment rates vary enormously...

http://www.passwordbyphone.com/images/ppm_72dpi.jpg

PapiChulo 07-05-2009 02:40 PM

Yep PbP works well. Ya gotta use it for your SA customers as well, which I get.


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