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nickutis 08-14-2009 06:38 AM

Scrubbing at it's best
 
Test signups with same Mastercard everywhere:

Those three sponsors using the same processor for the European users (localbillinglimited)

JUGGCASH:
http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.c.../1juggcash.jpg


WILDCASH
http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.c.../2wildcash.jpg


And.. Strange enough, same processor but for some reason my card starts to be valid with the SAME PROCESSOR ?

REALITYCASH
http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.c...ealitycash.jpg



Any sponsors care to explain why they don't want to take paying customers? It's not tubes fucking with us, it's processors and banks..

nickutis 08-14-2009 06:54 AM

Also epoch doesn't want to accept cards. Actually it doesn't even want to accept my country

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.c...ums/5epoch.jpg



But for some reason, the same card and my country is ok for SBW billing (nastydollars)

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.c...stydollars.jpg

stickyfingerz 08-14-2009 06:57 AM

Simple, not all programs have the same amount of scrub on their accounts. Same processor can have different scrub for each client. There are varying factors for why one might have a different scrub than another.

Matyko 08-14-2009 07:01 AM

although Sticky is right, this explains crappy ratios in last days..actually more than a few... its still better if its scrubbing than any other crap that happen...

BlackCrayon 08-14-2009 07:05 AM

its no surprise that countries like lithuania have troubles. I'd like to see someone from the states try and see how it differs.

nickutis 08-14-2009 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16183617)
its no surprise that countries like lithuania have troubles. I'd like to see someone from the states try and see how it differs.

Well that could be a reason, but seems like they turned more hardcore scubing in last months. Also if there will be no testers who could do the same signups from north america, i'l be in Ottawa in 2010 so i'l try it from there, lol :D

Roald 08-14-2009 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16183589)
Simple, not all programs have the same amount of scrub on their accounts. Same processor can have different scrub for each client. There are varying factors for why one might have a different scrub than another.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16183617)
its no surprise that countries like lithuania have troubles. I'd like to see someone from the states try and see how it differs.

= card declined

nickutis 08-14-2009 02:01 PM

can anyone confirm that epoch has no problems with other european countries?

stickyfingerz 08-14-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16185427)
can anyone confirm that epoch has no problems with other european countries?

That would be something to contact Epoch about. Most processors update their scrub lists fairly often and not many outside of the processors themselves have a current list. Contact one of the guys at epoch. :2 cents:

Major (Tom) 08-15-2009 12:25 PM

one time for a test we took off all scrub.. it was nothing there to scrub you out and bank declines still hit hard.
we're in a credit crunch. plain and simple.
Duke

Barefootsies 08-15-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16183589)
Simple, not all programs have the same amount of scrub on their accounts. Same processor can have different scrub for each client. There are varying factors for why one might have a different scrub than another.

:2 cents:

alias 08-15-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 16189031)
we're in a credit crunch. plain and simple.

:2 cents:

BlackCrayon 08-15-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16189045)
:2 cents:

yeah but this thread is about the guy using his own card and getting declined, not about others using their maxed out cards.

alias 08-15-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16189053)
yeah but this thread is about the guy using his own card and getting declined, not about others using their maxed out cards.

Maybe the banks are being more cautious, preventing chargebacks by not even allowing certain cardholders to successfully interact with certain processor or IPSP accounts unless it is a "sure bet".

Would be nice to hear some real info from a processor or IPSP. This thread seems rather speculative.

Cyber Fucker 08-15-2009 02:41 PM

Once, I wanted to sign-up to hushpass.com from Poland with visa debit and my transaction was declined as well. Well, it looks like some programs don't want money. Paradox?

Mr. Cool Ice 08-15-2009 02:46 PM

You should blur your photo shop pics better, I was able to undo them and now I have not only your user/pass, but all your cc data.

It's bangin time!

Socks 08-15-2009 02:50 PM

I'd bet programs like Juggcash decline cards, then offer a secondary processor or another option that doesn't pay affiliates, or a much lower % of affiliates too.

It seems like if there's a way to be screwing with affiliates nowadays, they're on it like flies to shit.

PGR 08-16-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 16189409)
I'd bet programs like Juggcash decline cards, then offer a secondary processor or another option that doesn't pay affiliates, or a much lower % of affiliates too.

It seems like if there's a way to be screwing with affiliates nowadays, they're on it like flies to shit.

I hope that's not the case, but it wouldn't surprise me..

rowan 08-16-2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16183639)
Well that could be a reason, but seems like they turned more hardcore scubing in last months. Also if there will be no testers who could do the same signups from north america, i'l be in Ottawa in 2010 so i'l try it from there, lol :D

Unless you're staying there and have a card with a billing address there it would probably be even more likely to be declined. :2 cents: GeoIP that doesn't match billing country = red flag

nickutis 08-16-2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16193316)
Unless you're staying there and have a card with a billing address there it would probably be even more likely to be declined. :2 cents: GeoIP that doesn't match billing country = red flag

hopefully i will stay there for at least few years, so yeah i will have a credit card with local billing address there. If processors will still decline the transactions.. Well i guess it's really stupid politics when you won't take customers money..

hjnet 08-17-2009 01:01 AM

Less paying customers + the same amount of cheaters = higher % of fraud -> more scrubbing required :(

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-17-2009 01:40 AM

CCbill is the worst.

seeandsee 08-17-2009 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet (Post 16193739)
CCbill is the worst.

:pimp:pimp


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