XBIZ welcomes AVN...
 

In direct response to the unprecedented outpour of requests from the adult internet community, I welcome the founder and president of AVN to engage in any form of direct talks with me and the other trade show producers about working together to meet the demands of our community for the benefit of our industry.

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That's very nice to see. Best of luck to you both.

A nice gesture as well I must add.

Very nice Alec.

I think everyone should work together for the betterment of our industry

Best of luck.

That was classy.

Spoken like a Gentleman

Absolutely and Totally!!!!!!! Great to see:thumbsup

Fishbein won't touch this.

im curious.. how does xbiz even make $$ to hire all that staff,etc?

Maybe im missing something here but its not like xbiz is a popular mainstream news/media/ outlet

I was here.

Good move.

I look forward to the discussions!

a XBiz/AVN super show would be truly awesome

Don't you mean AVN/XBiz super show?

Therein lies part of the problem.

Checkmate

It has to be free to use the word truly :thumbsup

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Well said bro.

whos got the peace pipe??? ;)

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You're a class act Alec *mwuah* I hope the olive branch you've extended is met with open minded and solution oriented thinking. Kudos Xbiz :thumbsup

Nice Work Alec, then again I'm not surprised. Long time no hear my friend. Would like to catch with your group on our recent activities.

UrgeRick
UrgeCash.com

B2B advertising baby

As much as the offering is great the media to do so is the wrong one, those type of "contacts" or "ideas" should be first approached in person or in private ways and not over a public forum...

Good point


I'm with you on this one

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why not, he can't go wrong by posting what he did here. Even if the other side stepped up to talk with him, you don't know what ebiz's demands would be, how hard they would try to work something out, etc... but the gesture sure makes them look good. Which might be the point of posting this. Who knows but it certaintly cant hurt them for posting this and trying to look like the better side.

Could it all be a PR stunt... you mean a news company trying to manipulate people and what they see ? no way ;) lol who knows if their intentions are good or not, you wont until you see results... which we are a long ways from seeing if ever.

quoted for truth

Since Alec knows this is very likely the case he can make the offer publicly, come off as magnanamous, and have very little risk of having to actually follow through.

Good deal I would love to see a huge mega show combining all the forces of these 2 companies..

Well played XBiz.

Let's see, AVN has been putting on 2 shows a year for awhile. XBiz comes in and decides to do shows as well, thus helping to clutter up the show calendar. Everyone complains there are more shows than can meet demand and then XBiz suggests that both XBiz and AVN should work together "for the betterment of the industry". (on a public forum)

I can only guess AVN is seething at this behind the scenes. But then again they put themselves in this spot by offering up crap so again, well played XBiz.

Can't you all just get a d0ng?

Been watching this all unfold, and I'd agree that a sit down or some other form of communication is practical for all involved (trade shows, sponsors and affiliates) at this juncture. Whether it happens or not, I applaud your efforts, Alec.

XABVINZ Show?

Would be impressive to see.

That would be a good combination, XBIZ and AVN Show..

I would love to see an event like that.:thumbsup

This thread has potential.

indeed it does:thumbsup:thumbsup

Only in this industry would people welcome the consolidation of choices. Nobody needs to have a "sit down" regarding the state of industry trade shows. It's a free market and if there are more shows than the market will bear, then some will die off. If all of the current shows continue to offer a decent ROI for sponsors, organizers and attendees then they will remain. If, as an attendee, you feel a show isnt worth your time, then dont go. If enough people feel likewise you'll see the show cancelled.

Combining the two biggest shows of the Summer into 1 isnt going to solve anything. Without competition it will just end up raising sponsorship, badge and hotel pricing.

If you really wanted to work together for the "benefit of the industry" how about setting up a universal advertising guideline and not accept ads from companies that utilize practices that harm the industry as a whole, ie: hidden pre check cross sales, hiding behind DMCA's, using stolen content etc.

Just saying...

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Back in in the days, We were one of the biggest sponsors at these shows that started the growth for these shows. Along with Porn Holio and CyberErotica. We would each drop about half a mil on each show, Vegas and Miami. We had the Open Bar for everyone for the whole weekend along with so many free giveaways. I have to admit that our presence there was one of the reason we became so successful. Along with all the Webmaster that trusted us and still do.

They were fun events, I wish I could pull up old pictures of our 18 Wheeler Rig Wrapped with CyberAge all over it sitting on the convention floor, not sure how many accidents it caused with the Sexy Models on it as it was driving up the 15 Freeway, then all the way to Miami.

Bottom line is, the shows were great at one time. I think Greed got involved, then too many started out and we stopped doing the shows all together.

Alec, it takes a real man to come here and make this happen. Hats off to you bud.
This can be Huge...Xbiz/AVN Introduces...Xbiz/AVN/CyberAge...Fuck it, get me involved too while you're at it. I may even reconsider and start going all out again at the shows.

I've been saying this for years, and I'll say it again...Do the B2B but please someone do some B2C. Get some radio ads out, put on some infomercials on the Networks, "Wanna make money in the online Adult Biz, Join us bla bla bla. People need work right now, they would pay 50 Bucks to come in and learn the business. Shit, I've showed people how to make money in this business over and over. I know guys living in Mansions on Lake Property because of me showing them the biz. We need to get more newbies out to the shows.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents. I'm sure you guys can pull it off. Good Luck!!!

You are so right on so many levels. Kudos to you:thumbsup

Thats a true gentlemen and good businessman response!!!

We are always stronger together than apart.

Sounds like a plan Alec!

I will hit you up end of the month when we start promoting our 2010 show to discuss.

Great initiative!

good stuff :)

So does this mean tradeshow passes will cost double what they used to?

Hey Helmsy,

I'll be sure to pass this message along, and touche! Take it to the Next level.....

BTW - What are your ideas for the tradeshow market, I shared quite a bit - but we never heard one PEEP out of you......

it's quite clear this guy wants to talk with a decision maker.

Would you consider doing a joint mega show together with Xbiz?

good luck!