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BFT3K 10-02-2009 09:18 PM

My Review of Michael Moore's New Movie - Capitalism, A Love Story
 
It wasn't so great.


How about that for a thoughtful and detailed review?

CaptainHowdy 10-02-2009 09:24 PM

I like it, it's the kind of review that saves me money...

beta-tester 10-02-2009 09:46 PM

i wanted to see it, but it's not played in theaters near me... i guess i'll have to wait for torrent or something :)

But detailed review would be very good.

'mo 10-02-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beta-tester (Post 16384907)
i wanted to see it, but it's not played in theaters near me... i guess i'll have to wait for torrent or something :)

But detailed review would be very good.

Michael Moore won't mind you picking it up on torrents, after all, he is anti-capitalism. :thumbsup

cykoe6 10-02-2009 09:57 PM

That fat hypocritical fuck has made a $50 million fortune off his movies enjoying the benefits of living in a free society and free market capitalism but yet he does everything in his power to undermine and destroy the US and our system. He is truly a wretched excuse for a person. :disgust

beta-tester 10-02-2009 10:15 PM

well, I don't blame him... His idea is to make money too, so, I guess that's natural flow of events :) Make a movie, promote it and earn money, simple as that...
You see, Zeitgeist has a bit different approach... They seem to not be making a whole a lot of money and once their movie is released it's posted on their website...

After Shock Media 10-02-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384918)
That fat hypocritical fuck has made a $50 million fortune off his movies enjoying the benefits of living in a free society and free market capitalism but yet he does everything in his power to undermine and destroy the US and our system. He is truly a wretched excuse for a person. :disgust

Perhaps so, however that is the right of being an American. If the people fall hook line and sinker for everything he makes then it really is not his fault now is it?

SleazyDream 10-02-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384918)
That fat hypocritical fuck has made a $50 million fortune off his movies enjoying the benefits of living in a free society and free market capitalism but yet he does everything in his power to undermine and destroy the US and our system. He is truly a wretched excuse for a person. :disgust

idiot

He is truly a wretched excuse for a RICH person.

cykoe6 10-02-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16384931)
Perhaps so, however that is the right of being an American. If the people fall hook line and sinker for everything he makes then it really is not his fault now is it?

Agreed. He is just a very successful con artist. His rise from nothing to fame and fortune is an inspirational story about the greatness of America. That being said, he is an amoral scumbag and hypocrite of epic proportions.

BFT3K 10-02-2009 10:28 PM

He could have left out some of the fluff, focused more on the blatant corporate corruption, and backed off a bit on the underlying pro-socialism stand.

Overall it was okay, but his movies just aren't angry enough for me. I felt the same way about Fahrenheit 911. He needed to go for the jugular, and not let up!

Zoom in on the problems, stick to the facts 100%, name names, and give them hell!

I guess I was hoping for a more radical message, a movie that motivates the viewer to DO SOMETHING!

His stuff is a mix of poignant facts, diluted with a half-assed attempt at comedy, and mixed with questionable fluff - so that in the end you just don't know how to feel about it all.

Just stick to the facts and HIT HARD! The facts alone, properly presented, would be much more compelling than the bizarre mix of shit he always seems to create.

He DID show Ronald Reagan for the asshole sellout he was however, so I do have to give him kudos for that!

LiveDose 10-02-2009 11:05 PM

I'll check it out for free when I get the chance. After all capitalism sucks.

Moore is about 2 cheeseburgers away from a fatal heart attack.

2012 10-02-2009 11:25 PM

http://www.charmr.com/images/capital...amidposter.jpg

Cherry7 10-03-2009 02:22 AM

Capitalism is a wonderful system - for the .001% of the worlds population....

And your "free" if you live the the richest countries (but if not we have the US trained death squads )

And you dare to use that freedom - we don't engage in rational arguement but insult them on the most childish level

Good job millions of $ can be spent fooling the people because the believers in capitalism couldn't think their way out of paper bag.

Dailydiapers 10-03-2009 04:20 AM

Actually I found it to be a very interesting movie. Of course - and as always with his movies - you have to set aside the comments that are meant to push his political view; but the actual points he covered are very valid. Some excellent insight into how "the rich" think about the rest of us, and what they will do to keep us down but thinking we can get up!

BFT3K 10-03-2009 09:43 AM

It is funny how easy it is for the rich to manipulate the sheeple.

CaptainHowdy 10-03-2009 12:25 PM

Complaining about capitalism here = LOL ...

Libertine 10-03-2009 12:27 PM

In support of his criticism of capitalism, I shall download this film instead of watching it in the cinema.

DaddyHalbucks 10-03-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384946)
Agreed. He is just a very successful con artist. His rise from nothing to fame and fortune is an inspirational story about the greatness of America. That being said, he is an amoral scumbag and hypocrite of epic proportions.

Well put.

If capitalism is so terrible, why does Michael Moore live in the US? I am sure they would welcome him with open arms in Venezuela or Cuba.

Iron Fist 10-03-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 16384986)
I'll check it out for free when I get the chance. After all capitalism sucks.

Moore is about 2 cheeseburgers away from a fatal heart attack.

Good.... anyone up for buying him a double cheeseburger then? I'm all in... :2 cents:

SykkBoy 10-03-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 16387369)
Well put.

If capitalism is so terrible, why does Michael Moore live in the US? I am sure they would welcome him with open arms in Venezuela or Cuba.

so, you're saying that if you love your country and want to see it improve since it might not being doing as well as you'd like..you should just leave? So you should never try to make a change for what you perceive to be the better?

Niktamer 10-03-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 16385005)


quoted for the truth

cykoe6 10-03-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 16385218)
Capitalism is a wonderful system - for the .001% of the worlds population....

And your "free" if you live the the richest countries (but if not we have the US trained death squads )

And you dare to use that freedom - we don't engage in rational arguement but insult them on the most childish level

Good job millions of $ can be spent fooling the people because the believers in capitalism couldn't think their way out of paper bag.

Why are you on a webmaster board (which is at least theoretically about the porn business) and flying a sig if you hate capitalism?

Perhaps you are just really really fucking stupid? :winkwink:

BFT3K 10-03-2009 02:54 PM

Capitalism: an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, esp. as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

Socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

Free Market: an economic system in which prices and wages are determined by unrestricted competition between businesses, without government regulation or fear of monopolies.

BFT3K 10-03-2009 03:06 PM

If you do not believe our government is totally controlled by big corps, then you are a fool! Capitalism sounds great, but the vast majority of the citizens do not reap the benefits of the current system of capitalism we "think" we have right now.

The middle class is shrinking at an amazing rate, and the disparage between rich and poor is growing every day. A better, perhaps hybrid, version of capitalism is needed ASAP.

Big corps are on the verge of a full win soon, if we don't work to change direction...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7...-Contributions

BTW, the word "capitalism" does not appear in the Constitution of the United States, and if you were to read the document today, it sounds a whole lot more like socialism, than our currently perverted version of big corp capitalism.

The Dems can't pass anything, because they have been bought by the corps, hook, line and sinker. They just pretend they are not corp puppets - the Republicans don't even bother to pretend.

cykoe6 10-03-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16387521)
Capitalism: an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, esp. as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

Socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

Free Market: an economic system in which prices and wages are determined by unrestricted competition between businesses, without government regulation or fear of monopolies.

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16387543)
If you do not believe our government is totally controlled by big corps, then you are a fool! Capitalism sounds great, but the vast majority of the citizens do not reap the benefits of the current system of capitalism we "think" we have right now.

The middle class is shrinking at an amazing rate, and the disparage between rich and poor is growing every day. A better, perhaps hybrid, version of capitalism is needed ASAP.

Big corps are on the verge of a full win soon, if we don't work to change direction...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7...-Contributions

BTW, the word "capitalism" does not appear in the Constitution of the United States, and if you were to read the document today, it sounds a whole lot more like socialism, than our currently perverted version of big corp capitalism.

The Dems can't pass anything, because they have been bought by the corps, hook, line and sinker. They just pretend they are not corp puppets - the Republicans don't even bother to pretend.

I hope that your guardian or caregiver remembers to keep you away from sharp objects. :2 cents:

BFT3K 10-03-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16387557)
I hope that your guardian or caregiver remembers to keep you away from sharp objects. :2 cents:

Another clever retort by the board's number one cynic!

BlackCrayon 10-03-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384918)
That fat hypocritical fuck has made a $50 million fortune off his movies enjoying the benefits of living in a free society and free market capitalism but yet he does everything in his power to undermine and destroy the US and our system. He is truly a wretched excuse for a person. :disgust

How does he do that?

woj 10-03-2009 03:41 PM

did I just hear businessmen on a webmaster board bitching about capitalism? :1orglaugh

Joshua G 10-03-2009 04:26 PM

it was very disappointing. He makes the poor look pathetic & hopeless. nevers discusses their own culpability for getting foreclosed on. never discusses his hero obama is just as big a whore to wall street as his republican punching bags. Obamas own party is voting down the public option, but only republicans get moores wrath. Joke.

BFT3K 10-03-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16387654)
it was very disappointing. He makes the poor look pathetic & hopeless. nevers discusses their own culpability for getting foreclosed on. never discusses his hero obama is just as big a whore to wall street as his republican punching bags. Obamas own party is voting down the public option, but only republicans get moores wrath. Joke.

Hey man, what's up with your phone? It rings once, and then just craps out.

Sausage 10-03-2009 05:32 PM

Watched it, its got some good stuff if you can filter out the obvious bias and political leanings. Unfortunately most will either take it all in or reject it all.

Jim_Gunn 10-03-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384918)
That fat hypocritical fuck has made a $50 million fortune off his movies enjoying the benefits of living in a free society and free market capitalism but yet he does everything in his power to undermine and destroy the US and our system. He is truly a wretched excuse for a person. :disgust

I never understand how people can think that about Michael Moore. Have you ever seen any of his movies or heard him interviewed on tv, or is it just the caricature of him and second hand opinion you are going on? He's not anti-capitalist nor anti-American as far as I can tell, and I don't understand how anyone can think he is. His movies, in order, said a few things that turned out to be right, going back to Roger & Me twenty years ago, when he talked about how G.M. was making some bad business moves. In light of recent events, was he wrong?

Was there any valid point in Fahrenheit 9-11, when he said the war in Iraq was based on nonsense and was messed up? Was there a good observation in Sicko when he talked about how the American health care system has some serious problems? And in light of recent events in the economy, is there any thing to be gleaned from Capitalism: A Love Story, when he talks about the really bad moves that have been and are now being made in our country's economic policy? I don't follow his every move, but I certainly think that his movies are very thought provoking and entertaining, and people from both sides of the spectrum, whether conservative or liberal should appreciate that.

StuartD 10-03-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16384946)
Agreed. He is just a very successful con artist. His rise from nothing to fame and fortune is an inspirational story about the greatness of America. That being said, he is an amoral scumbag and hypocrite of epic proportions.

He never said it's wrong to get rich, or wrong to go from nothing to being rich by being in business. I'm not sure how hating the US government makes him a hypocrite for getting rich.

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 16387369)
Well put.

If capitalism is so terrible, why does Michael Moore live in the US? I am sure they would welcome him with open arms in Venezuela or Cuba.

Is that what you do? Run away from the things you dislike rather than try to change them?


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