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leroytrolley 04-10-2010 01:46 AM

Just wants one sale a day
 
Times are getting tough.

I have 4 blogs that aint doing to well. (see sig) I can only promote Juggcash as I am using their hosting for free.

I just want one sale a day, but at the moment I'm not even getting one sale a week!!

It could be time to say good bye to this stuff that I've loved doing in my spare time.....time to take up gardening???

babymaker 04-10-2010 02:10 AM

hosting is super cheap naked had a sale a week ago you coulda got unlimited hosting for a year for 20 bux, plus you gotta niche down to something more interesting, general porn stars dont sell that well, esspecially if you arent a huge traffic source, if you're smaller you gotaa go niches, then you will get some sales :)

Farang 04-10-2010 02:12 AM

</facepalm>

TheDA 04-10-2010 02:23 AM

Oh dear :(

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 17021028)
Oh dear :(

agreed! oh dear indeed

$5 submissions 04-10-2010 02:43 AM

You have the tools. You just need more motivation. Set yourself up with a daily to do list--don't end the day until you finish that list. Add to that list: linkbuilding

teh ghey 04-10-2010 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leroytrolley (Post 17020988)

It could be time to say good bye to this stuff that I've loved doing in my spare time.....time to take up gardening???

you can make way more money with a gardening website than trying to sell generic hardcore porn with no traffic source.
if you want to stick with porn then i think you should sell some more unusual stuff than just hardcore, and it takes months to get traffic from Google, especially if youre only linking between your own websites and your permalink structure sucks.
this generic stuff youre selling is already locked up by the big players and you cant compete with them.
and the net is so over saturated with it that theres no reason to buy.
you promote smaller niches then the customers have a reason to buy because they really want it.
good luck

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 02:51 AM

permalink structure?? tell me more please

TheDA 04-10-2010 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17021054)
You have the tools. You just need more motivation. Set yourself up with a daily to do list--don't end the day until you finish that list. Add to that list: linkbuilding

More like he needs to know what he is doing.

He's been in the business for a while, he's ran programs, he's had his own sites for a while.

That tells me something.

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 17021096)
More like he needs to know what he is doing.

He's been in the business for a while, he's ran programs, he's had his own sites for a while.

That tells me something.

Yes. It tells you that trying to run programs and sites and then get married and have 4 kids very quickley doesnt work!

I had dreams, but now they have faded away.

Shit happens

TeenCat 04-10-2010 03:15 AM

find new sponsors and promote them to make sales, and sales will go ... there is only one niche that is still getting nice ratios, and the niche is called new site :winkwink:

Raf1 04-10-2010 03:36 AM

good luck man. Times are tough for people on an entry level in this biz

DVTimes 04-10-2010 03:36 AM

the prob is everyone now does blogs.

those blogs look dull. at least use a bettere theme/look.

to do a good blog people will want to look. your blogs looks too dull.

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk (Post 17021173)
the prob is everyone now does blogs.

those blogs look dull. at least use a bettere theme/look.

to do a good blog people will want to look. your blogs looks too dull.

Point taken! Will look into that one.

Thanks

John. 04-10-2010 04:12 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=perma...rlz=1I7GGLJ_en

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John. (Post 17021221)

I see what you mean!! Will get to work on that too!

Oracle Porn 04-10-2010 04:39 AM

here are my advice,

Get paid hosting
start more blogs, add 4 per day
add more sponsors, add an iframe to some dating sponsor on top of every one of your blogs, use more then 1 sponsors, brazzers/juggcash are everywhere and everyone knows them so most likely you are not giving the surfer anything new...

let me know how it goes. good luck

Zorgman 04-10-2010 04:52 AM

Back to the burgers you go!
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/ima...25_459_300.jpg

seeandsee 04-10-2010 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 17021271)

expected but funny :)

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17021281)
expected but funny :)

ditto, 0

carlsandoval\ 04-10-2010 06:03 AM

yeah permalinks are important, you def make google happy with permalinks.
and judging by your alexa rank your prolly getting 80-120 hits a day on pornstarl ist, that is way to little, that may be fine for a niche site that is not used as much but for mainstream porn its not enough.

here are my suggestions.

-fix your permalinks (easy if your using wordpress)
-go with a better sponsor (from friends i hear twistys is pretty good)
-buy traffic or traffic trade, unfortunatly you need to direct a bit of traffic to your site, then from there it starts getting better.
-make your sites with a more WOW factor, too dull.
-make a fake facebook profile, pretend to be a girl and AFTER you fix the permalinks on your site post the links of your blog post on facebook, out of 1000 friends you average out 200-300 of them going to your blog, got a fake facebook page with 1,300 friends and once you start posting people visit your site and start bookmarking it and prolly post if on their profiles,ecc ecc....

Si 04-10-2010 06:08 AM

pushing that shit won't get you anywhere.

Also add a whitelabel cam site to your arsenal, you only need a domain. I would recommend webcams.com

Then put ads up for it on all your blogs.

Caligari 04-10-2010 06:09 AM

you can also try some free blog hosting, there are several good ones-
pornblogs.com
thumblogger.com
sensualwriter.com

you can make money with free hosted blogs.

And for the record i have some blogs ranking well with the numerical permalink structure, however it is typically not the route i go.

Si 04-10-2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17021377)
you can also try some free blog hosting, there are several good ones-
pornblogs.com
thumblogger.com
sensualwriter.com

you can make money with free hosted blogs.

And for the record i have some blogs ranking well with the numerical permalink structure, however it is typically not the route i go.

:thumbsup

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlsandoval\ (Post 17021367)
yeah permalinks are important, you def make google happy with permalinks.
and judging by your alexa rank your prolly getting 80-120 hits a day on pornstarl ist, that is way to little, that may be fine for a niche site that is not used as much but for mainstream porn its not enough.

here are my suggestions.

-fix your permalinks (easy if your using wordpress)
-go with a better sponsor (from friends i hear twistys is pretty good)
-buy traffic or traffic trade, unfortunatly you need to direct a bit of traffic to your site, then from there it starts getting better.
-make your sites with a more WOW factor, too dull.
-make a fake facebook profile, pretend to be a girl and AFTER you fix the permalinks on your site post the links of your blog post on facebook, out of 1000 friends you average out 200-300 of them going to your blog, got a fake facebook page with 1,300 friends and once you start posting people visit your site and start bookmarking it and prolly post if on their profiles,ecc ecc....

Nice one ...cheers

Nicky 04-10-2010 06:18 AM

You can host your domains on one of my servers if you want. ICQ me and I'll set up a account with a IP.

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17021387)
You can host your domains on one of my servers if you want. ICQ me and I'll set up a account with a IP.

Cool. I'll wait till the kids are in bed!

Nookster 04-10-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 17021012)
hosting is super cheap naked had a sale a week ago you coulda got unlimited hosting for a year for 20 bux, plus you gotta niche down to something more interesting, general porn stars dont sell that well, esspecially if you arent a huge traffic source, if you're smaller you gotaa go niches, then you will get some sales :)

Definitely listen to this guy. Niche is where the money is if you're pushing little to no traffic. When I started I began with general hardcore which wasn't making dick. Once I started niching (asian niche) I started making real sales. Trying to slang the general pornstars with little traffic will get you 1:1000 (if you're lucky/good), whereas if you niche you could see way better ratios, like 1:100 if you know the niche. :2 cents:

Manowar 04-10-2010 09:48 AM

leroy you got ICQ?

GAMEFINEST 04-10-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17021387)
You can host your domains on one of my servers if you want. ICQ me and I'll set up a account with a IP.

hook me up while you are at it .. :thumbsup

Horny Dude 04-10-2010 10:40 AM

I say if you're just starting out in porn then good luck. Even the veterans are having a hard time making sales. You should definitely move to mainstream sites. Way more possibilities and you can easily make a sale a day. I know people who use blogspot and adsense and make a tidy little sum. One word of advice, do what you know. If gardening is your thing then do gardening.

dmhubby 04-10-2010 10:43 AM

ZERO personality in the blogs.

Bman 04-10-2010 10:49 AM

tons of great wordpress themes out there.
Lots of good little niches out there. pussy lips, legs, feet, lingerie, stockings, hairy...that type of stuff.
general porn is free. already.

TrainWreckContent 04-10-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman (Post 17021796)
tons of great wordpress themes out there.
Lots of good little niches out there. pussy lips, legs, feet, lingerie, stockings, hairy...that type of stuff.
general porn is free. already.

dont forget spankings :winkwink:

Sly 04-10-2010 11:01 AM

I will give you free hosting on one of my servers in exchange for the mobile traffic, which you get full credit on. You can promote whoever you want, I don't care. Just send the mobile traffic through Top Bucks (using your referral, making you money) and I'll set you up.

Feel free to ICQ me at 147479144.

Ginn 04-10-2010 12:02 PM

It's not the time to say goodbye. It's time to get a hosting and maybe to change a niche for more narrow and for more profitable.

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 01:03 PM

How would you guys change my Porn Star List into niche specific. Should I split into catagories??

USS Clownpenis 04-10-2010 01:07 PM

online porn biz is dying... you need lots and lots of money to keep making at least some money.... times where you could put together a site in a couple of days and start raking a
few k per month a long gone

why pay for porn if everything is free?

smutnut 04-10-2010 01:30 PM

Nothing is actually dying, just changing, but with only four blogs how can you really expect even one sale a day? Unless the blog is like Perez Hilton or the Huffington Post or something and hopefully they are doing much better than that.

Bman 04-10-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riggo (Post 17021807)
dont forget spankings :winkwink:

Thats it exactly....stuff like that or girls getting spanked in socks. guys do searches for that type of stuff... hell just girls in panties non nude does good.

PenisFace 04-10-2010 02:28 PM

build a massive quantity of free hosted blogs using thumblogger and the other big free blog hosts. I'm talking 5+ a day, with at least 10 quality hand written blog posts on them that target the keywords your 4 main blogs are using. Then once you've been doing this for a week, you should have at least 25 blogs that have quality content. Get them noticed with blog directory listings, and submitting individual posts to social bookmarking sites that are do-follow. You can also use linkdumps however SE's tend to think linkdumps suck.

I have a metric fuckton of traffic going to my free blogs alone, all done using the techniques above. I also have some paid-hosting blogs that are optimized for specific keywords, the same keywords that the free blogs are optimized for. All of my free blogs are interlinked in a sort of link wheel kind of setup, and they all point, either directly or indirectly, to my money blogs. The free blogs make money too, but we're talking hundreds of blogs that make the same amount as 5 or 6 "money blogs". The free blogs are nice because you build them up into something that's not a spamfest, and the you can just leave them, kind of like a freesite. You can use a content spinner that will rotate/re-write the posts for you and post a new one once or twice a month. Or you can do it yourself. It's all about a good schedule if you do the updates yourself. Make it so you're doing five or six blog posts a day to five or six free blogs, then do it again tommorow to a different group of blogs.

I see a lot of people trying to go far with blogs, but they get bored out of their minds and then quit in a week, after spending hours and hours a day making and/or updating blogs with real content that's actually worth reading. You won't make any money if you give up, so you just have to buckle down and be prepared to be bored as fuck for weeks and weeks until you have a good network going. The month that I did the majority of my free blogs is a month I cringe at when I look back. 10+ hours a day, never leaving the house, skipping meals, and wanting to toss myself out the window were the norm :1orglaugh

But now all those suicidal thoughts and lack of showers are paying off, so it WAS worth it as of now... Looking back to when I was doing it, it was most definitely NOT worth it :1orglaugh

PS: Now that you can compete with my blog kingdom, I demand 5 dollars for this advice.

bdld 04-10-2010 03:35 PM

you need a new theme, permalink, definitely different sponsors and more backlinks.

leroytrolley 04-10-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 17022121)
build a massive quantity of free hosted blogs using thumblogger and the other big free blog hosts. I'm talking 5+ a day, with at least 10 quality hand written blog posts on them that target the keywords your 4 main blogs are using. Then once you've been doing this for a week, you should have at least 25 blogs that have quality content. Get them noticed with blog directory listings, and submitting individual posts to social bookmarking sites that are do-follow. You can also use linkdumps however SE's tend to think linkdumps suck.

I have a metric fuckton of traffic going to my free blogs alone, all done using the techniques above. I also have some paid-hosting blogs that are optimized for specific keywords, the same keywords that the free blogs are optimized for. All of my free blogs are interlinked in a sort of link wheel kind of setup, and they all point, either directly or indirectly, to my money blogs. The free blogs make money too, but we're talking hundreds of blogs that make the same amount as 5 or 6 "money blogs". The free blogs are nice because you build them up into something that's not a spamfest, and the you can just leave them, kind of like a freesite. You can use a content spinner that will rotate/re-write the posts for you and post a new one once or twice a month. Or you can do it yourself. It's all about a good schedule if you do the updates yourself. Make it so you're doing five or six blog posts a day to five or six free blogs, then do it again tommorow to a different group of blogs.

I see a lot of people trying to go far with blogs, but they get bored out of their minds and then quit in a week, after spending hours and hours a day making and/or updating blogs with real content that's actually worth reading. You won't make any money if you give up, so you just have to buckle down and be prepared to be bored as fuck for weeks and weeks until you have a good network going. The month that I did the majority of my free blogs is a month I cringe at when I look back. 10+ hours a day, never leaving the house, skipping meals, and wanting to toss myself out the window were the norm :1orglaugh

But now all those suicidal thoughts and lack of showers are paying off, so it WAS worth it as of now... Looking back to when I was doing it, it was most definitely NOT worth it :1orglaugh

PS: Now that you can compete with my blog kingdom, I demand 5 dollars for this advice.

Many thanks for your time!

smutnut 04-10-2010 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leroytrolley (Post 17022260)
Many thanks for your time!

This still means you have only four blogs, but he did put a lot of time into his advice.

d-null 04-10-2010 04:19 PM

stop doing what everyone else is doing, every fool and his dog are doing blogs, open your mind and look for something better, sometimes you need to invest something to make something too

Horny Joe 04-10-2010 04:24 PM

"and submitting individual posts to social bookmarking sites that are do-follow"

any examples of sites like that?


About blogs... I have 20-30 handwritten blogs that are getting more and more SE traffic every week. I have not done much on backlinking, starting on that.. But, just as an example on how fast you can build if you don't do like I did :1orglaugh

I started a blog a some time ago. Long posts, filled with keywords, 1-3 new posts daily for a couple of weeks - got a decent share of SE love almost instantly - then I forgot about the blog. Now I have barely 1000 hits/month there. 61% SE.

If only I did not forget...... :1orglaugh Lesson learned

famous 04-10-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 17021012)
hosting is super cheap naked had a sale a week ago you coulda got unlimited hosting for a year for 20 bux, plus you gotta niche down to something more interesting, general porn stars dont sell that well, esspecially if you arent a huge traffic source, if you're smaller you gotaa go niches, then you will get some sales :)

Just curious as to why you say pornstars do not sell well

smutnut 04-10-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17022277)
stop doing what everyone else is doing, every fool and his dog are doing blogs, open your mind and look for something better, sometimes you need to invest something to make something too

for instance..?

IllTestYourGirls 04-10-2010 04:31 PM

You need to be making 5 to 10 blogs a day if you want to get into the blogging game.

mrjoint 04-10-2010 04:32 PM

Like others said your blogs are way too generic and doesn't look appealing to a visitor. I have very limited experience marketing porn, but I have been an affiliate (mainstream) for a while and I always find unusual stuff sell well online.

For instance, if I want to promote hotel booking offers to Vegas, I usually blog about the local clubs or events visitors could attend when in Vegas. Get them comp guest list access to a club or discount to a show ect. This helps my blog stand out from the rest of the travel blogs, and helps me sell more hotel rooms with bit more personal touch.

Now lets say if I am promoting your pornstar list blog , Instead of just selling the video, I might do little bit of research and link to a cam site where your visitor could actually chat / interact with the girl on that video. Create a better theme , this could help you with sales.

Sometimes small changes makes a real big difference in your sales conversion.

You have to always ask the question, why would you buy something from your blog instead of another blog that is offering the same thing.


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