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Supz	07-22-2010 12:32 PM

creepy guy running teen site & Jelena Jensens elite programming skills

Is this dude running these teen gossip sites a gfy user?

http://gawker.com/5593179/stickydrama-the-teen-gossip-blog-run-by-a-31+year+old-pornographer?skyline=true&s=i

Jelena Jensen got some props from Gawker. Says here she does all her own programming and what not. Even though one of the people that commented on it points out the fact she is putting tables inside tables. I still think its pretty cool. Also this must be getting her a shitload of page views. Gawker has a lot of traffic... Congrats on the free advertisement :)

http://gizmodo.com/5592615/explosive-pornstar-by-day-nerdy-programmer-by-night

Deej	07-22-2010 12:35 PM

youre too late... youre officially a reposter! :pimp

Jarmusch

07-22-2010 12:36 PM

Copy and paste url's? Good luck with that.

Supz	07-22-2010 12:41 PM

That is what I get from posting from my blackberry

BestXXXPorn

07-22-2010 12:41 PM

LOL, tables in tables... I could point about 2,000 fingers in this industry on using tables for layout ;)

Supz	07-22-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17355691)

LOL, tables in tables... I could point about 2,000 fingers in this industry on using tables for layout ;)

Haha. Yea that is true. It was just fuuny to me how people make fun of people on here for it, and the same thing happened on gawker

Agent 488

07-22-2010 01:52 PM

what gfy nick is that?

Pics Traffic

07-22-2010 01:55 PM

isn't it the same guy that runds the dirty?

cambaby

07-22-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17355691)

LOL, tables in tables... I could point about 2,000 fingers in this industry on using tables for layout ;)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

erooup

07-22-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17355691)

LOL, tables in tables... I could point about 2,000 fingers in this industry on using tables for layout ;)

Fix your own site before talking about others :)
Maybe fix your Character Encoding and get a xHTML for dummies, because it looks like you need it.

garce

07-22-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355900)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

:error :Oh crap :uhoh

cambaby

07-22-2010 02:02 PM

Dude must be banking

Stef.

07-22-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355900)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

noooooooooo... You didn't said that? :(

cambaby

07-22-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garce (Post 17355913)

:error :Oh crap :uhoh

Wow what a come back.

A 3 column css layout and html code is more bytes than a 3 column table html code.

BestXXXPorn

07-22-2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355900)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

Wow, you obviously have no clue on where web tech is moving and the real reasons to use divs for layout... check out there html5 is going...

Tables and CSS go together... one is formatting, one is styling...

chronig

07-22-2010 03:50 PM

I put tables inside tables all day long nigga! :thumbsup

SykkBoy

07-22-2010 03:55 PM

I put tables inside tables and my income hasn't gone down a penny...in fact, I'm on pace for a pretty damn good year..........but then again, I'm not out to win design awards, I just want to make money...

BestXXXPorn

07-22-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355900)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erooup (Post 17355909)

Fix your own site before talking about others :)
Maybe fix your Character Encoding and get a xHTML for dummies, because it looks like you need it.

Who cares about character encoding on a coming soon page that gets no traffic? I put this page up as a temp page as I'm 1,800 hours into a massive project. I'm not going to bother with all the trimmings like alt text on each image. The vast majority of hits from the W3C validator are just from the Flash elements...

I also needed to use data- properties (which I use for some JS)...

Whoopdie-fuckin-do ... Still doesn't change the fact that tables are not good for layout...

My site looks and functions fine in IE8, IE9, FF, Chrome, and Opera on Windows and Safari, FF, and Chrome on OS X... that's good enough for me (for a temp page) ;)

TeenCat

07-22-2010 04:04 PM

ooooh fuck i thinking me on another planete :upsidedow

erooup

07-22-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17356241)

My site looks and functions fine in IE8, IE9, FF, Chrome, and Opera on Windows and Safari, FF, and Chrome on OS X... that's good enough for me (for a temp page) ;)

So does her's + she have big tits. So whats the problem? :1orglaugh

cambaby

07-22-2010 07:12 PM

Fuck you web code nazis Ill throw up a page with 500 tables and still beat you in SERPs.
http://www.bestxxxporn.com/

marcop

07-22-2010 07:16 PM

Is Jelena doing boys yet? Or anal?

Supz	07-22-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt (Post 17355892)

isn't it the same guy that runds the dirty?

deff not the same guy as The Dirty, the guy from the dirty is some indian dude who is changing his name to Nik Richie cause he thinks he is famous now.

Not sure what gfy nick or if he is on gfy at all.

Deej	07-22-2010 07:18 PM

cambaby... wow..

I just seen you today and you already "amaze" me...

If thats your statement based on CSS, then you obviously dont know enough or exactly how to work it to say something like that with any solidity...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

code nazis or not, they obviously know something you dont...

Deej	07-22-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 17356610)

Is Jelena doing boys yet? Or anal?

not sur eon anal, but she has ventured into HC...

cambaby

07-22-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17356614)

Aww art fag why you all butthurt? Nice tables by the way!

Deej	07-22-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17356629)

Aww art fag why you all butthurt? Nice tables by the way!

first of all... what tables...

second of all.. I never said tables were bad... but CSS is superior...

fris	07-22-2010 07:37 PM

she knows php?

Deej	07-22-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17356646)

she knows php?

she can out wordpress you any DAY! :pimp

Ok that was blatant ass kissing, but shes a cool smart chick ;)

LongBG

07-22-2010 10:14 PM

She is still just another whore.

potter

07-22-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355922)

Wow what a come back.

A 3 column css layout and html code is more bytes than a 3 column table html code.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No it's not... Both the files below are exactly 4kb

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

<style type="text/css">

.wrap{width:600px;clear:both;}

.column{width:200px;float:left;}

</style>

</head>

<body>

<div class="wrap">

        <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="wrap"></div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

</head>

<body>

<table width="600" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

        <tr>

            <td width="200"></td>

        <td width="200"></td>

        <td width="200"></td>

    </tr>

</table>

</body>

</html>

mlove

07-22-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17355900)

Seriously you worry about tables? Tables are WAY better than CSS which is inconsistent between platforms and browsers as well as bloating code.

You really need to learn computers

BigDeanEvans

07-22-2010 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBG (Post 17356850)

She is still just another whore.

Is that Erics girlfriend??

http://caravanofdreams.files.wordpre...8744banned.jpg

cambaby

07-23-2010 12:09 AM

CSS example 548 characters
Table example 470 characters
Now duplicate that across an entire website
Plus you forgot to add formatting for the various IE bugs in your CSS example
Also keep in mind if if you used a seperate .css thats loading 2 files instead of 1
These are all penalties for search engines but using a table is never a penalty

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 17356915)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No it's not... Both the files below are exactly 4kb

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

<style type="text/css">

.wrap{width:600px;clear:both;}

.column{width:200px;float:left;}

</style>

</head>

<body>

<div class="wrap">

        <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="column"></div>

    <div class="wrap"></div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

</head>

<body>

<table width="600" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

        <tr>

            <td width="200"></td>

        <td width="200"></td>

        <td width="200"></td>

    </tr>

</table>

</body>

</html>

Pornopat

07-23-2010 12:18 AM

Jelena Jensen was named in this thread and you all are talking about css and tables.
Is this a gay board?

Deej	07-23-2010 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17357002)

Fact - CSS is superior to basic table layouts.

Dont be mad... You will fruitlessly try to convince others of your theory because thats all it is.

crazytrini85

07-23-2010 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17355691)

LOL, tables in tables... I could point about 2,000 fingers in this industry on using tables for layout ;)

I put tables in tables and use CSS.

Consumers don't care. You can CSS the fuck up until your balls fall off, it won't make you a penny more.

This is like saying, Ford uses one set of tools to make their cars, Chevy uses another. Well guess what, they are both just cars and people why buy them regardless of what tools are used to make them.

You're just being a nerd.

lazycash

07-23-2010 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBG (Post 17356850)

She is still just another whore.

Nice, insult the mod's girlfriend, enjoy your ban.

fris	07-23-2010 05:47 AM

looks like a sponsored post on gawker

CaptainHowdy

07-23-2010 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBG (Post 17356850)

She is still just another whore.

Watch it, pal!

pornguy

07-23-2010 06:08 AM

Table in a table is not a problem.

potter

07-23-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17357002)

Wrong. Because as soon as you add in any other elements or styling to this layout. The table one exponentially gets more and more bloated.

Also, there is no various IE bugs in my CSS example. That code would work all the way back to IE4 and probably further. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, here is my point as to once you start adding more to the layout, tables become more bloated. In the example, I will add just one single block to each column.

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

<style type="text/css">

.wrap{width:600px;clear:both;}

.column{width:200px;float:left;}

.block{width:200px;}

</style>

</head>

<body>

<div class="wrap">

        <div class="column">

            <div class="block">stuff in the left column</div>

    </div>

    <div class="column">

            <div class="block">stuff in the center column</div>

    </div>

    <div class="column">

            <div class="block">stuff in the right column</div>

    </div>

    <div class="wrap"></div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />

<title>Untitled Document</title>

</head>

<body>

<table width="600" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

        <tr>

            <td width="200">

                <table width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

                    <tr>

                        <td>stuff in left column</td>

                </tr>

            </table>

        </td>

        <td width="200">

                <table width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

                    <tr>

                        <td>stuff in center column</td>

                </tr>

            </table>

        </td>

        <td width="200">

                <table width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

                    <tr>

                        <td>stuff in right column</td>

                </tr>

            </table>

        </td>

    </tr>

</table>

</body>

</html>

The more complex the layout gets, the worse and worse the code gets. I actually think you're fucking with me and everyone here for shits and giggles. I couldn't imagine anyone in this day n age not understanding the basic principles of html.

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