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Holly Lez! 08-04-2010 01:58 PM

YAY I can marry now! Prop 8 unconstitutional
 
http://www.californiabeat.org/2010/0...constitutional

HAHA Homophobes .. :):thumbsup:pimp

TheSenator 08-04-2010 02:00 PM


marketsmart 08-04-2010 02:00 PM

congrats faggots... :thumbsup


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Serge Litehead 08-04-2010 02:00 PM

congrats! now you can save a bit on taxes like a normal family :)

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 02:01 PM

I thought they said on the news last night that even if it was thrown out, it would be years before gay marriage was actually (in reality) allowed again. ?

TheSenator 08-04-2010 02:03 PM

Big WIN for the TeaBaggers for upholding the United State's constitution.

Holly Lez! 08-04-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17388523)
congrats faggots... :thumbsup


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LOL don't forget us dykes...

Nikki_Licks 08-04-2010 02:06 PM

Congrats :thumbsup

Now go get married before they change their minds :winkwink:

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:07 PM

Are the titles husband and wife not politically correct now?

beerptrol 08-04-2010 02:08 PM

Congratz, and welcome to the world of the ball and chain, divorce court, and losing fiddy percent

AlCapone 08-04-2010 02:09 PM

That still doesn't make it genetic.

Holly Lez! 08-04-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17388533)
I thought they said on the news last night that even if it was thrown out, it would be years before gay marriage was actually (in reality) allowed again. ?

Judge rules INJUNCTION against prop 8 and does NOT put a stay on decision!
"Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians," U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker rules.

brassmonkey 08-04-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17388523)
congrats faggots... :thumbsup


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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

kristin 08-04-2010 02:14 PM

HUGE and totally awesome!

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:14 PM

So much for the power of the Vote, they can find one sympathetic judge and get anything passed

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388599)
So much for the power of the Vote, they can find one sympathetic judge and get anything passed

Like that unconstitutional Prop 8?

baddog 08-04-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388599)
So much for the power of the Vote, they can find one sympathetic judge and get anything passed

You wanted liberal judges, right?

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17388614)
You wanted liberal judges, right?

Like the one that put Charley Mansion up for parole every few years, nope

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17388603)
Like that unconstitutional Prop 8?

And I can't disagree with that, along with the majority vote twice!

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388624)
Like the one that put Charley Mansion up for parole every few years, nope

Pretty sure they just do that to remind him that he's never seeing the outside ever again.

L-Pink 08-04-2010 02:25 PM

Great now more people can enjoy the thrill of marriage ............ divorce, courts and ex's, alimony.

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_Richard_ 08-04-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 17388574)
Judge rules INJUNCTION against prop 8 and does NOT put a stay on decision!
"Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians," U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker rules.

wow good for him.. strong words for the supreme court to consider

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17388633)
Pretty sure they just do that to remind him that he's never seeing the outside ever again.

Pretty sure it was liberals thinking that he could be reabilitated

Quentin 08-04-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17388614)
You wanted liberal judges, right?

Judge Walker is a liberal?

Man, somebody really should have told George HW Bush that before he nominated him to the bench in 1989.... :winkwink:

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388686)
Pretty sure it was liberals thinking that he could be reabilitated

If there is anyone that ever thought CM could be rehabilitated, I'd love to see some documentation on it.

TheSenator 08-04-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388599)
So much for the power of the Vote, they can find one sympathetic judge and get anything passed

That judge is a Bush appointee and is extremely conservative. He decided to uphold the constitution.

Vendzilla 08-04-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17388708)
Judge Walker is a liberal?

Man, somebody really should have told George HW Bush that before he nominated him to the bench in 1989.... :winkwink:

I don't know anything about this judge, but I have a problem with having something overturned by one person that got a majority vote,twice, it allows for corruption of power.

epitome 08-04-2010 02:41 PM

I am glad that the questions surrounding Walker's own sexuality never had a play in things. Could proponents of Prop. 8 make an issue of his sexuality and possible bias? What about when arguing before the Supreme Court?

I guess the flip would be possible bias had it been a straight judge. Anyway, the Mormon Church, the real backers of Prop. 8, are known to hit below the belt.

I had a feeling all along that Walker would rule the way he did and I am so glad he did! That trial was a joke and the defendants were outright lying and calling bogus witnesses.

epitome 08-04-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388738)
I don't know anything about this judge, but I have a problem with having something overturned by one person that got a majority vote,twice, it allows for corruption of power.

The corruption was allowing a vote on civil rights in the first place.

AmeliaG 08-04-2010 02:44 PM

My inbox just blew up with newsletters on this and it really made my day :)

PS The only way being married gives someone a tax break is if their spouse makes way less than they do. Otherwise married people are generally in a higher bracket. This is about human rights, not money.

Holly Lez! 08-04-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388738)
I don't know anything about this judge, but I have a problem with having something overturned by one person that got a majority vote,twice, it allows for corruption of power.

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Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17388762)
My inbox just blew up with newsletters on this and it really made my day :)

PS The only way being married gives someone a tax break is if their spouse makes way less than they do. Otherwise married people are generally in a higher bracket. This is about human rights, not money.

Yeah, well you know what else has been fucked up for a long time and still is? Gay "domestic partners" (unmarried) are allowed health insurance benefits from their "other", but an unmarried straight couple is NOT.

Nothing against gays at all, and this stupid Prop 8 should have been overturned a long time ago.... but how come the unmarried straight people still get fucked?

AmeliaG 08-04-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17388784)
Yeah, well you know what else has been fucked up for a long time and still is? Gay "domestic partners" (unmarried) are allowed health insurance benefits from their "other", but an unmarried straight couple is NOT.

Nothing against gays at all, and this stupid Prop 8 should have been overturned a long time ago.... but how come the unmarried straight people still get fucked?


I so deeply agree with you on this. I've had pals who were casually dating someone get full corporate health insurance benefits and keep them even after they totally broke up, because there isn't any system like divorce to make a breakup official. I mean, good for my pals, but that is so obviously just one more reason to have equal marriage rights for everyone.

I really think future generations are going to look at this brouhaha like ours looks at the old miscegenation laws of a generation or two ago.

Quentin 08-04-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388738)
I don't know anything about this judge, but I have a problem with having something overturned by one person that got a majority vote,twice, it allows for corruption of power.

I've asked you this rhetorical question before, I'll ask you again: if the voters of any given state voted to outlaw guns in their state, entirely, and a federal court later overturned the law on the basis that it violated the 2nd Amendment, would you have a problem with the court's decision?

Personally, I would not have a problem with the court overruling the voters in that hypothetical, because the court would be quite right, based not only on a reasonable interpretation of the plain language of the 2nd Amendment, but upon the prevailing federal case law that governs this area of jurisprudence.

It works the same way with the 14th Amendment. If you read this judge's opinion, you'll find that he did not just pull this out of his ass; it is founded upon a very well reasoned reading of the 14th Amendment, and a HEAP of case law, including Loving v. Virginia, a case that a lot Constitutional scholars have long pointed to as the eventual undoing of the prohibition of same sex marriage.

Having said all that... this isn't over. From here, the case will move on to the 9th Circuit for review, and regardless of which side wins, the losing side will then petition the Supreme Court for certorari.

This should not be objectionable to you in the least, my good man... it is simply how our system of Constitutional law works.

IMO, it is a fine system.... right up there with the best the world has to offer.

_Richard_ 08-04-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388738)
I don't know anything about this judge, but I have a problem with having something overturned by one person that got a majority vote,twice, it allows for corruption of power.

"House Democrats, led by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, opposed his nomination because of his alleged "insensitivity" to gays and the poor."

marketsmart 08-04-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 17388548)
LOL don't forget us dykes...

no.. i prefer lesbians... so congrats lesbians... :thumbsup

lesbians is a softer word and reflects the softness of two chicks fucking each other..

the word dyke reminds me of two fat butch chicks rolling around on each other like two pigs in the mud... not very appealing... :2 cents:




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brassmonkey 08-04-2010 03:06 PM

poop weiners tonight!

top_palooza 08-04-2010 03:09 PM

this will be very good for tourism :thumbsup:thumbsup

O MARINA 08-04-2010 03:09 PM

when is the wedding Holly :GFYBand:GFYBand

IllTestYourGirls 08-04-2010 03:15 PM

While agree with the right for gays to marry I find the irony of the ruling pretty funny.

Progressives scream for more democracy. The people of Cali vote, the progressives dont like the out come, they scream for republic protection.

:1orglaugh

The Demon 08-04-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17388599)
So much for the power of the Vote, they can find one sympathetic judge and get anything passed

Calling him sympathetic is too light. He's openly gay. And this isn't a problem because his ruling is going to be postponed until the Supreme Court rules on it and as usual, it will be banned again and the homos will bitch.

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17389036)
While agree with the right for gays to marry I find the irony of the ruling pretty funny.

Progressives scream for more democracy. The people of Cali vote, the progressives dont like the out come, they scream for republic protection.

:1orglaugh

I agree. We should have a public vote on whether or not straight people can marry each other too.

The Demon 08-04-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17388731)
That judge is a Bush appointee and is extremely conservative. He decided to uphold the constitution.

Extremely conservative? He's openly gay, how the hell can he be extremely conservative? Or are you full of shit as usual?

D Ghost 08-04-2010 03:20 PM

Good, time for people to stop worrying about gay people getting married...

and start worrying about shit that actual matters like the government fucking us in the asshole :thumbsup

IllTestYourGirls 08-04-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17389054)
I agree. We should have a public vote on whether or not straight people can marry each other too.

I dont think the government should have the right to tell you who you can marry. If there were smaller government this would not even be an issue :2 cents:

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17389186)
I dont think the government should have the right to tell you who you can marry. If there were smaller government this would not even be an issue :2 cents:

No, if there weren't paranoid religious fanatics quoting the bible every two seconds and predicting (fear mongering) the downfall of humanity through homos, this wouldn't be an issue.

IllTestYourGirls 08-04-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17389201)
No, if there weren't paranoid religious fanatics quoting the bible every two seconds and predicting (fear mongering) the downfall of humanity through homos, this wouldn't be an issue.

Who in turn use big government to spout their propaganda, so again, if there was smaller government this would not be a problem.

Amputate Your Head 08-04-2010 03:38 PM

Honestly don't know why the gays didn't just invent a religion of their own years ago. If you have a "religion", you can do whatever you want. Look at the Mormons, Christians, Jehovah Witnesses, etc.... they can even come and irritate you right at your front door... on Sunday... during the Superbowl.... while you're eating.... and it's perfectly legal, and you can't even kill them. They have political pull, are tax exempt, can marry or fuck anyone (or anything) they want....

The gays really dropped the ball on that one. One simple gay "church" would've stopped Prop 8 in it's tracks: "Religious freedom" and all.

marketsmart 08-04-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 17389093)
Good, time for people to stop worrying about gay people getting married...

and start worrying about shit that actual matters like the government fucking us in the asshole :thumbsup

so what you are saying is that pretty soon the govt is going to want to marry us?



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IllTestYourGirls 08-04-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17389301)
The gays really dropped the ball on that one. One simple gay "church" would've stopped Prop 8 in it's tracks: "Religious freedom" and all.

I thought that was tried? Maybe Im wrong.


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