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Si 10-29-2010 07:00 AM

Global warming + ice caps melting = higher sea levels? BULLSHIT!
 
Not trying to spark a debate or post meaningless global warming bullshit on here but there is one key thing these so called "scientists" seem to be forgetting with regards to ice caps and sea levels rising that makes me laugh. You may have noticed this aswell.

Basic science teaches you that when ice melts in water the water level will drop.

And if 7/10ths of an ice bergs mass is in fact under water. if that was to melt it would result in lower sea levels not higher.

Simple test, fill a glass with water and 2 ice cubes mark the water level.

Wait for them to melt and it will be lower level than before.

Ice caps are displacing water making sea levels what they are today.

If they were to go, the area they are displacing currently would become water in it's normal form.

If people think ice melting = more water = higher water levels. I would like to know where these people got their education.

Agreed?

justinsain 10-29-2010 07:05 AM

What about all the ice that is above the sea level?

Aric 10-29-2010 07:06 AM

That might be true if the ice caps were not covering a land mass.

Si 10-29-2010 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17650971)
What about all the ice that is above the sea level?

if 70% is below and 30% above it will not matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric (Post 17650977)
That might be true if the ice caps were not covering a land mass.

Good point, I'm just trying to work this out.

If the ice and icebergs melt that could still displace any ice that is formed ontop of land it wouldn't matter.

How much of it is actually formed on land? and how much is pure ice?

minicivan 10-29-2010 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17651006)
if 70% is below and 30% above it will not matter.
Good point, I'm just trying to work this out.

Dude, if you know that the polar ice caps are covering land masses... then you can use your own math to understand how sea levels would rise if they melt.

(btw... I don't support the whole "man made global warming scare" - just pointing out the flaw in what you seem to perceive as "logic" :) )

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lRzYDOHgYS...ock-holmes.jpg

justinsain 10-29-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17651006)
if 70% is below and 30% above it will not matter.

When I said above sea level that includes the ice on land as well.

Aric 10-29-2010 07:18 AM

http://science.howstuffworks.com/env...uestion473.htm

IllTestYourGirls 10-29-2010 07:27 AM

Here are some great global warming predictions

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...g_predictions/

Quote:

THE seas will rise up to 100m by 2100, claims ABC Science Show host Robyn Williams. Six metres, suggests Al Gore. So let?s take in ?climate refugees? from low-lying Tuvalu, says federal Labor. And ban coastal development, says the Brumby Government.

In fact, while the seas have slowly risen since the last ice age, before man got gassy, they?ve stopped rising for the last two, according to data from the Jason-1 satellite.

?There is no evidence for accelerated sea-level rises,? the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute declared last month.

Si 10-29-2010 07:31 AM

http://i52.tinypic.com/2irq8zp.jpg

Just found that here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_ice_cap

:1orglaugh

Si 10-29-2010 07:33 AM

Ok here's what I'm saying.

Do they know how much ice is in the water as pure ice / icebergs?

Ice on land melting will obviously raise sea levels because it has to go somewhere. What I'm saying is can the other ice metling counteract it?

Or not?

Si 10-29-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric (Post 17651023)

Thats pretty interesting actually :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17651043)
Here are some great global warming predictions

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...g_predictions/

And this one makes me :1orglaugh good stuff :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 10-29-2010 07:38 AM

We're going to freeze, not drown...

Si 10-29-2010 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17651081)
We're going to freeze, not drown...

We can keep eachover warm :)

webairalex 10-29-2010 07:57 AM

Has anyone looked into the theory of sunspots affecting global temperatures? There is a ongoing debate wether sunspots are they key to desciphering global warming.
Look up sunspots on wikipedia!

seeandsee 10-29-2010 07:59 AM

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_Richard_ 10-29-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17650956)
Not trying to spark a debate or post meaningless global warming bullshit on here but there is one key thing these so called "scientists" seem to be forgetting with regards to ice caps and sea levels rising that makes me laugh. You may have noticed this aswell.

Basic science teaches you that when ice melts in water the water level will drop.

And if 7/10ths of an ice bergs mass is in fact under water. if that was to melt it would result in lower sea levels not higher.

Simple test, fill a glass with water and 2 ice cubes mark the water level.

Wait for them to melt and it will be lower level than before.

Ice caps are displacing water making sea levels what they are today.

If they were to go, the area they are displacing currently would become water in it's normal form.

If people think ice melting = more water = higher water levels. I would like to know where these people got their education.

Agreed?

haha this has a chance of becoming epic

the 'scientists' are worried about the ice that is above sea level

_Richard_ 10-29-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webairalex (Post 17651127)
Has anyone looked into the theory of sunspots affecting global temperatures? There is a ongoing debate wether sunspots are they key to desciphering global warming.
Look up sunspots on wikipedia!

not so much the sunspots but lack of them

the problem with 'global warming' isn't the regular fluctuations of nature

it's the amount of greenhouse gases we have and if everything is 'able to right itself' with the added pressure

Si 10-29-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17651341)
haha this has a chance of becoming epic

the 'scientists' are worried about the ice that is above sea level

I realise now I've worded the original post totally wrong.

Getting ice caps confused with icebergs made entirely of ice is what I meant to say. I.E. large chunks of ice melt = lower sea levels. Didn't take into account ice above land etc.

Nevermind, it's friday! :1orglaugh

_Richard_ 10-29-2010 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17651352)
I realise now I've worded the original post totally wrong.

Getting ice caps confused with icebergs made entirely of ice is what I meant to say. I.E. large chunks of ice melt = lower sea levels. Didn't take into account ice above land etc.

Nevermind, it's friday! :1orglaugh

it was interesting the article that Aric posted.. i didn't realize water expanded to such a degree when it was increasing in temperature that it would have an impact on sea level

Si 10-29-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17651371)
it was interesting the article that Aric posted.. i didn't realize water expanded to such a degree when it was increasing in temperature that it would have an impact on sea level

Me neither!

Makes sense though and is also Pretty interesting :)

dyna mo 10-29-2010 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17650956)

Basic science teaches you that when ice melts in water the water level will drop.


Agreed?


completely disagree.

si, your view of basic science is entirely wrong.

water level does NOT go down when ice melts.

go look up archimedes principles 1st, then get an understanding of salt water v fresh water principles.

JustDaveXxx 10-29-2010 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17650956)
Not trying to spark a debate or post meaningless global warming bullshit on here but there is one key thing these so called "scientists" seem to be forgetting with regards to ice caps and sea levels rising that makes me laugh. You may have noticed this aswell.

Basic science teaches you that when ice melts in water the water level will drop.

And if 7/10ths of an ice bergs mass is in fact under water. if that was to melt it would result in lower sea levels not higher.

Simple test, fill a glass with water and 2 ice cubes mark the water level.

Wait for them to melt and it will be lower level than before.

Ice caps are displacing water making sea levels what they are today.

If they were to go, the area they are displacing currently would become water in it's normal form.

If people think ice melting = more water = higher water levels. I would like to know where these people got their education.

Agreed?

Nice theory. I would agree with you, but the government can't scare people with your theory.


The government needs to scare you where they make you think, if you dont buy carbon credits, let them tax the shit out of you, that the world will end as we know it.


Global warming is a serious money making scam used to make people willingly pay more taxes without them knowing it. Big business gets taxed or forced to buy carbon credits and big business passes that costs down to the consumers.


Fuck that useless prick Al Gore!! I hate when self righteous dicks like Gore feel the need to tell us how we should live our lives, when he cant even control his own life.

Here are two stories that define who this guy really is. One is the allegations of Gore sexually assaulting a message therapist and the second is about Gore getting divorced from his wife.

If the 1st story is not true, why is Tipper Gore leaving Al Gore?? You can pull cover ups when it comes to the public press, but you cant cover that shit up at home.



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/pos...leep_with.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...d_scandal.html

Slutboat 10-29-2010 09:43 AM

WOW - just discovered that there are some DUMB FUCKS on GFY

There are now refugees from Island Nations - displaced by the rising seas caused by man-made global warming... But don't worry GFY - most of you aren't the sciency types. Just pound your keys and your puds and stayed tuned to FOX News for all your important info.

ottopottomouse 10-29-2010 09:44 AM

Leaving your fridge door open will counteract global warming.

Si 10-29-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17651413)
completely disagree.

si, your view of basic science is entirely wrong.

water level does NOT go down when ice melts.

go look up archimedes principles 1st, then get an understanding of salt water v fresh water principles.

Will look into it, might even experiment myself a little later.

I've got salt water and fresh water within about 500 feet of me :thumbsup

And in a few months time when it's -10/-20 here and there is icebergs in the river. The water level will be higher.

Si 10-29-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17651479)
Leaving your fridge door open will counteract global warming.

:1orglaugh

Rochard 10-29-2010 10:08 AM

So the oceans rise a bit more?

What's the one thing we seem to be running out of and can't get enough of? Water. Counties are going to war with each other in the US over water rights. Central California farms can't get enough water because LA sucks it all down. Someone needs to figure out how to change salt water to drinking water in massive amounts, and then just pump it out of the ocean to where ever we need it.

Problem solved.

ThunderBalls 10-29-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17651562)
So the oceans rise a bit more?

What's the one thing we seem to be running out of and can't get enough of? Water. Counties are going to war with each other in the US over water rights. Central California farms can't get enough water because LA sucks it all down. Someone needs to figure out how to change salt water to drinking water in massive amounts, and then just pump it out of the ocean to where ever we need it.

Problem solved.

They already have them, they're called Desalination Plants. But how do you propose inland areas get water that currently depend on mountain snowpack? The Rocky Mountains supply water to most of the Southwest through the Colorado river, what do you think will happen if there is no longer snow in those mountains?

IllTestYourGirls 10-29-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17651602)
They already have them, they're called Desalination Plants. But how do you propose inland areas get water that currently depend on mountain snowpack? The Rocky Mountains supply water to most of the Southwest through the Colorado river, what do you think will happen if there is no longer snow in those mountains?

It will rain and there will still be water.

ThunderBalls 10-29-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17651615)
It will rain and there will still be water.


You're joking, right?

Si 10-29-2010 10:41 AM

Oh god i've started one of them threads off :1orglaugh

Scott McD 10-29-2010 02:10 PM

This is a thread for Mondays. Not for Fridays when i need to chillllllllllll....


;-)

brandonstills 10-29-2010 02:58 PM

There was a documentary produced on how global warming is a scam invented so that they can collect tax revenue from carbon credits.

I highly recommend watching it if you haven't seen it already.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70191369613647

Science is about keeping an open mind and examining the evidence. When you have Al Gore saying, "There is no debate. The debate is closed", it sounds like bullshit to me. There are plenty of people saying anthropogenic (man-made) global warming is a scam.

Si 10-29-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17652386)
This is a thread for Mondays. Not for Fridays when i need to chillllllllllll....


;-)

Agreed!

Just cracked a beer open :drinkup

Si 10-29-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17652734)
There is another problem with the higher sea level global warming stuff. Science has yet, to calculate accurately how much of the ocean water will evaporate when temperatures increase. :2 cents:

Yes,

Then how much rain will be created, how much will turn to snow in other areas and become more ice elsewhere.

Is the world following it's axis as accurately as people like to think.

Does my bum look big in this? etc.

the list goes on :upsidedow

GatorB 10-29-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17650956)
Not trying to spark a debate or post meaningless global warming bullshit on here but there is one key thing these so called "scientists" seem to be forgetting with regards to ice caps and sea levels rising that makes me laugh. You may have noticed this aswell.

Basic science teaches you that when ice melts in water the water level will drop.

And if 7/10ths of an ice bergs mass is in fact under water. if that was to melt it would result in lower sea levels not higher.

Simple test, fill a glass with water and 2 ice cubes mark the water level.

Wait for them to melt and it will be lower level than before.

Ice caps are displacing water making sea levels what they are today.

If they were to go, the area they are displacing currently would become water in it's normal form.

If people think ice melting = more water = higher water levels. I would like to know where these people got their education.

Agreed?

You're retarded. It's not about icebergs you fucking moron. Its about ice on LAND. Where did YOU get YOUR education, Christian school?

dyna mo 10-29-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17652950)
You're retarded. It's not about icebergs you fucking moron. Its about ice on LAND. Where did YOU get YOUR education, Christian school?

not to mention that land ice is primarily fresh water. fresh water ice melting in salt water = rise in water level.

fatfoo 10-29-2010 05:44 PM

Scientists would not make such a foolish mistake in the calculation. If they say melting of icebergs results in higher water level then it must be true.

Si 10-29-2010 07:48 PM

Looking at boats tomorrow.

Got to be up early, goodnight everyone.

ty ttyl g2g cya l8r kk bye ppl luv u

Si 10-29-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17652950)
You're retarded. It's not about icebergs you fucking moron. Its about ice on LAND. Where did YOU get YOUR education, Christian school?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17652973)
not to mention that land ice is primarily fresh water. fresh water ice melting in salt water = rise in water level.

Recieving counters from someone who obviously loves goats and a dude with a 60 year old weirdo in his avatar has made this thread all the more worthy. :1orglaugh

Thanks for the giggles :drinkup

dyna mo 10-29-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 17653170)
Recieving counters from someone who obviously loves goats and a dude with a 60 year old weirdo in his avatar has made this thread all the more worthy. :1orglaugh

Thanks for the giggles :drinkup

that's me in my avatar!

Si 10-29-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17653185)
that's me in my avatar!

:Oh crap

I'd hit it! :thumbsup

Was just reading about what you said actually. I understand the salt water stuff. Hence why the dead sea is one of the easiest places to float. Etc.

Anyway enough for me! if people want to debate this further carry on. I'm going to bed :sleep


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