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Old 06-29-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Searching a new host

My site is almost a month old and I start to kill my shared hosting

I saw that a few people use amerinoc and I think this managed vps with 10 TB Bandwidth would be something for my site

If you have experiences with amerinoc, please share and how many users do you serve with it
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:59 PM   #2
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Amerinoc is great. I've hosted a mid-sized tube (maybe 120 or so users online at a time) and a bunch of blogs with them for a while on a VPS with them with no trouble. Could easily handle more.

I'd probably suggest looking at the MVPS2 though. It's only another $20 for twice the specs.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:25 AM   #9
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I tried Amerinoc 2 times and it sucked every time.

I use like 10 diff. hosts now.

For a VPS I can recommend www.m3server.com, www.wiredtree.com, www.servint.net, www.liquidweb.com

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My site is almost a month old and I start to kill my shared hosting

I saw that a few people use amerinoc and I think this managed vps with 10 TB Bandwidth would be something for my site

If you have experiences with amerinoc, please share and how many users do you serve with it
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Just for the record, Amerinoc does not pay $150 PPS. Their standard is $50 which is actually less than many hosting affiliate programs. i.e., if people were going to spam a host only for big PPS it sure wouldn't be Amerinoc.

I've had a very good experience with them which is all I can speak for.

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Old 06-30-2012, 12:49 PM   #13
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Thanks for the answers, normally I host my sites on hostgator, but for these sites I only need a few hundred visitors and you can make with them a $100 day. But for tube site I need thousands of thousands and it's all about servers.
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Thanks for the answers, normally I host my sites on hostgator, but for these sites I only need a few hundred visitors and you can make with them a $100 day. But for tube site I need thousands of thousands and it's all about servers.
We host.. a rather large amount of tubes of various sizes and are highly recommended by mechbunny/konrad if you are using his tubes. See our current promo.

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Don't go with a VPS.

For tubes (or any other site that needs to get HUGE to make money) be prepared for growth and just start with a dedicated. You will hate yourself when you suddenly get a ton of visitors and your VPS is too slow, crashes, you have a week downtime and google punishes you bad.

100tb.com ftw.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #16
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I think I don't need a vps anymore, traffic is going down from day to day, shared hosting is enough
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:42 AM   #18
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I'm currently hosted at them for month and had no problems, there weren't to many hosting companies that accepted adult content.

Did you had a bad experience with them?
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xxxtubers - I already have a server setup for tubes that is not oversold at all. Includes cPanel. Contact me at brad{@}boysforbreakfast.com
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I've had a very good experience with them which is all I can speak for.
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hostgator? sucks, they find out about adult, they cut you off
I've looked in to their terms and also talk with someone on chat and they accept
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I'm currently hosted at them for month and had no problems, there weren't to many hosting companies that accepted adult content.

Did you had a bad experience with them?
Yep, it sucked (virtual plan)... sites slow, server overloaded/oversold, very limited resources... I have also a virtual plan with hawkhost and it's much better... for a VPS I can recommend m3server, servint or wiredtree.
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I moved now to amerinoc, moving tube site is hard work, if you are not on the final server do not upload videos, moving video files is so time consuming. Hope will be fine with amerinoc.
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Yep, it sucked (virtual plan)... sites slow, server overloaded/oversold, very limited resources... I have also a virtual plan with hawkhost and it's much better... for a VPS I can recommend m3server, servint or wiredtree.
I have the same problems right now, at the end of the week I'll make time and move to another hosting company. The VPS without any of my code consumes over 650 ram and they still argue that is normal.

Last week everyday I had for at least 30 min down.
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I have the same problems right now, at the end of the week I'll make time and move to another hosting company. The VPS without any of my code consumes over 650 ram and they still argue that is normal.

Last week everyday I had for at least 30 min down.
Are you talking about amerinoc? My site is every day down for about 1 or 2 hours, and I have less traffic than on the shared hosting. My goal is to have 100k visitors daily, then I think I will have a downtime of 90%. But the support is very gentle. My favorite hoster is still hostgator, their support is so great. I think with this tube project I have to learn more about servers.
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Are you talking about amerinoc? My site is every day down for about 1 or 2 hours, and I have less traffic than on the shared hosting. My goal is to have 100k visitors daily, then I think I will have a downtime of 90%. But the support is very gentle. My favorite hoster is still hostgator, their support is so great. I think with this tube project I have to learn more about servers.
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Till now I'm happy with amerinoc no downtime anymore, but at the moment I have only 1k to 2k visitors daily, interesting will be over 10k visitors if I ever get there.
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My site is almost a month old and I start to kill my shared hosting

I saw that a few people use amerinoc and I think this managed vps with 10 TB Bandwidth would be something for my site

If you have experiences with amerinoc, please share and how many users do you serve with it
They are good, DWHS is also top notch. 11 years of adult hosting and a 100% uptime this year. Pretty awesome and very affordable for being the best.

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I don't think there is any perfect hoster. But M3is getting close to it for my site. Affordable and a great service - The only downside is that they always want to sell more RAM

But it always depends on what you need - and what budget you have.
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