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Hi everyone,
have recently gone from hostgator, to certified hosting. (shared hosting)
and the results in terms of views can be seen, in some cases the difference between before and after is huge. and visits are still increasing.


The sites are the same as before, before moving to the new server I have tried everything to increase visits, never changed anything.

I wonder then how important it is, and what is important in a server?

Clearly needs to be fast and always online etc., but this experience has made me doubt that besides the usual things, there are other variables that are not aware, and that make a difference on the server and therefore on my sites .

Let me give an example, in the server of CH, is active varnish cache. Before moving to CH, I had no idea existed, and still have no idea what it is, but maybe it is she to make a difference for my sites.

I wonder then how important is the server for the success of a website? 10%? 80%? And what does this difference?

Assuming you have a perfect site, how a server can create problems, or help the success of a website?
How search engines consider the server for the site's ranking?

I am a programmer php/mysql, I always delegated server selection to other people, but I'm afraid it's time to start looking to the world of servers ...

Can you help me do a bit of clarity in this area?

For now my sites are in shared hosting, I have not thought about vps because my sites do not make virtually nothing, the visits were few and meager gains (perhaps because of the server)

The vps make a big difference? What you should look into a VPS server? Must be configured? How? Example, I have to install varnish cache or must be already installed?

There are better options? Example dedicated server?

Understand, configure and manage a server is a job that I can do myself?
If there is to learn, I learn, but more than 24 hours a day I have not ...

Thanks to all those who will help me understand

DonJon69

Thanks for this post. I was wondering the same thing. It looks like the server you have now is doing ok. Why not just keep it there?

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For now I stay here, I have never been happier.

But at this point I want to understand something, maybe there is also something that I could ask them to improve.

PimpStar

My experience with hosting is, that it could be a bottleneck
as was your shared hosting at hostgator, but if your site gets low traffic
and the hosting is sufficient lets say on a shared or vps, it will be off small to no difference when you would move it to a dedicated box.
Hosting is very important as it should be fast and stable, but it will not grow your sites imho
that is just the hard work you need to put into it to build the site's and grow traffic

Babaganoosh

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Venum

GTmetrix gives also good info: GTmetrix | Website Speed and Performance Optimization

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Hello,
I created a few days ago, this new site, Big Tits Hard Pics | Big Tits, Huge Tits, Huge Boobs, Giant, following PageSpeed and the new recommendations on mobile traffic of webmaster tools. With plans to upgrade all my sites in the future.

These are the results




CH does not look bad.
But these tools tell me that everything works, but do not tell me what makes everything work.
Many of the optimizations I made myself, in the code, I do not know what has helped the server.

P.S. However everything vanishes when you add external tools: analytics, plugrush, juicyads, etc.

Thank you very much for the signaling links (also because I did not know gtmetrix).

But the main purpose of this post, would be to stop randomly choose the server and see how it goes, and begin to have the tools and knowledge that allow to make an informed choice.

Those two links help me understand if my site works (and we could stop them) but they say little about the server.

P.P.S what the fuck is CDN? One other thing that I never thought. I can get with shared hosting or is a game for kids older than me?

Arnox

As mentioned earlier, page load speed is the only thing that I can think of. Google has done tests that show if a website takes just a few seconds longer to load than average, the probability of that person leaving the website and going elsewhere increases quite heavily. Users hate slow websites, so any host that gives you a boost in that regard is doing a solid.

Most hosting companies are identical to one another. The only difference is how overcrowded their servers are and how much bandwidth you can squeeze through for users.

So no direct influence, but definitely something to consider moving if your site takes a long time to load.

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iamBoogieman

Nice exchange of ideas.

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Yes, it is for older children.

LizardKing

CDNs rock - I have a lot of content at cloudflare.
Safe bandwidth and increase pagespeed -> higly recommended

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ps: Is there no way to edit posts?

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pornficator

What do you attribute this increase in views?

Just because of cache? It isn't true. What did you do to improve your views?

BTW, server are complicated but not impossible. I tell you that digital ocean is an interesting starting point. There are a lot of tutorials (obviously you can use in other hosting providers) with low costs VPS to start messing around.

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No, in fact ... I think it is the whole of the new server, but do not know exactly what gods helped.

Digital ocean you mean this? https://www.digitalocean.com/
Where are the tutorials?

Cloudflare really work? I tried it long ago on my sites, I have not seen a big increase in visits and performance, but my sites were often offline (with screen cloudflare 502 or 503, I seem to remember).
But I had turned from cpanel, perhaps not done so ...

Might have problems with other services like varnish?

diablom

Tried both, hostgator and certified hosting for couple of years. Everything almost the same, but I liked certified support more.

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As a programmer/database guy, I have worked on a lot of different types of servers over the past couple of decades, both for mainstream and porn sites. I have also had to act as the go-between with many, many different hosting companies.

As Arnox noted, loading speed can be a big factor when it gets down to getting surfers to move past the first page. If your initial loading speed is low, it can hurt your business a lot.

For many of my clients, though, they saw great gains after switching to a setup where they co-located a server that they owned and set up (or paid a third party to set up) at a good data center. I have seen many, many, many instances of shared hosting companies that play all sorts of tricks with connection speeds and traffic, much of which is entirely invisible to your average customer.

A few years ago one of my clients (a local one) suspected that something wasn't quite right. After grilling the hosting company (and eventually threatening legal action), we found that their network was hosted on a single overloaded server with many other clients, all sharing a fraction of the bandwidth that each had been promised. The client had paid the hosting company to purchase and set up a private server, but the company had simply plunked them on a slow shared one and pocketed the money.

I finally convinced them to purchase their own server and have it shipped to me. With the help of another one of their contractors, we set up the server so that it would run optimally for the software they were using, took off anything that was unnecessary, tweaked it, and put it in a good data center within an hour drive of the client. Since our goal was to do a good job for the client and (hopefully) get more business from them in the future, we focused on their needs. Some hosting companies are more focused on their own bandwidth and server expenses, rather than making things are optimized for the individual customer.

When all was said and done at the end of the year, their savings more than covered the cost of us purchasing and setting up the server, the hosting cost, and the little bit of maintenance they needed here and there. Most importantly, though, their speed/bandwidth issues disappeared, and didn't resurface when they expanded and updated their network a year later.

Not everyone can afford to purchase a server and co-locate it. For those that are large enough (or profitable enough) to do so, though, it can often be a good move, both financially and in terms of performance.

MiamiBoyz

Certainly there are many factors that can have an effect on a sites growth and hosting is the foundation that a site is built on. You need a solid foundation because you certainly want hope for growth.

Oversold servers are cheap but terrible especially when you are trying to server videos...no one wants to jerk off with the video buffering and streaming uneven.

If you are not ready for a dedicated server yet I have found that HawkHost provides very good servers as well as top notch tech support (see sig for link).

fappingJack

this is a very informative thread.

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it happened to me a couple of times (often while working on my sites) to see this screen.


lasts only a few seconds. The reason seems to be "entry processes".

Even these did not know ... I did a tour in google, they seem to be: An "Entry Process" is how many PHP scripts you have running at a single time.

I did not understand ...
What does it mean? Used by whom? What do you mean php script?
If you arrive 20 users at the same time the server crashes?
What is the same time? same second, the same minute, the same millisecond?

This is also a given server to which I never noticed, but perhaps if the sites grow, it could create problems.
In your server how many do you have? 20 am are few or many? How should it be?

DonJon69

Are your sites html sites or php sites like wordpress?
processes are scripts running but they usually start and stop in an instant.
Looks like your using a lot of memory too.
If your sites are wordpress install a cache plugin.

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my sites are all in php, and absolutely no wordpress.
code is all specially made, and does the minimum, of the minimum, of the minimum required.
In the specific case of this image, I had just finished loading and process almost 80,000 photos and maybe the server was a little tried.

Its operation is normal

DonJon69

The resources look ok now.
How much traffic do your sites get per day? That could be it too on the shared host.

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sherlock.homme

The 20/20 usage of processes is definitely a bad thing. Like DonJon69 explained, it's the PHP processes instantiated by your server to serve incoming requests. Your server can have between 1 and 20 processes, what that means is that it can serve 20 concurrent users, which is plenty enough if your PHP layer is fast (depending on what you are doing that can allow you to support 50 to 100 requests per seconds, that's a lot of traffic).

The number of these you need depends of the server capacity and the application you run on it. But from experience, the number of processes allowed is rarely the actual problem, it's more often than not a symptom of something going wrong in your application.

You said you run custom code in there, I would advise you to profile it under load testing with XHProf (can't link sorry, not enough posts yet). It's a tool developed by Facebook to analyse PHP callstacks, it's extremely useful as if you have bottlenecks, you will have the exact spot in your code where it happens.

Another usual suspect when you have PHP processes hanging is the database. Have you checked that your database is responsive? If it's not done yet, turn on the slow query log for MySQL, and it will tell you if any query is taking an unusual amount of time to execute. Another place to look is the errors log of your server, if MySQL was faulting maybe it triggered a PHP error that was logged.

Focus on getting your PHP layer to be as fast as possible, that alone will allow you to grow to decent traffic sizes without having to do too much server optimization, on most distro the servers (Apache or Nginx) default settings are not that bad.

That being said, there are a lot of other things that could cause this, but in general this type of behaviour by your server will cause Google to penalize you as your error rate would be elevated as well as your response time and time to first byte. You might have had good content, which Google had identified, but were penalized heavily because your site was mostly not browsable, too slow, or throwing 502/503 (anyone reading, you should actively monitor the error rates on your server).

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thanks for the responses.

some fear not I will be able to apply them, because they are still in shared hosting, however, I ask the guys from the server.

in the meantime I have redistributed the cronjob, those of tube sites, which are the most challenging.

Also will inspect all the code of my sites, looking for possible problems.

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as I feared ...

That does not exist on the server, and we can not install it.
Typically we do not install modules to shared servers (on a dedicated, sure).

oppoten

Certified will often throttle smaller shared accounts. It's something they've always done.