>20 sites, 0.08 per day with ads. Is it normal?

[redlighttop]

Hi, after introduction post, I'm here to ask you a very important question.
Our sites are only 2 months old, we have choose our ad parnter and we have put ads in all of our sites.
But I don't understand where we fail.
For you, experts, is it normal earnings 0.08 cent per day with 20 sites? Is it normal? I dont' think so.
The eCPM is 0.03 (WHAT????? 0.03 cents????) and after 2 months our total earning is 3$.
I've conact many times customer support, but their answer are not the best and nothing change.
When sites were in parking, with 20 sites earning is 2$ per day (0.10 cent per site), and now, after invest thousands bucks in development we earn 2$ in 2 months, not in 1 day.
We know, we are not pornhub or xhamster, and our goal is not to make XXXX bucks per day, but with 20 sites (not 1) our prediction is to make 10/20$ per day (0.50/1$ per site and it's also very very low).
0.08 per day is very sad.
We need traffic, we need a good ad partner.
It's not normal earn 2$ in 2 months.
Thanks

[j3rkules]

Can you post links so we can help you.

[bigPunk]

How much traffic your sites are getting?

[bns666]

if you have little or no traffic on the sites, no one will click on ads logically...

[yuu.design]

think in your traffic, not in your ad partner

[RachelBlackG]

It doesn't matter how many sites you have. The only thing that matters is whether it can attract traffic and what kind of traffic it would be. You need to provide more info so we can tell you more.

[redlighttop]

Thank you very much for replies guys, if it's possible post the sites, here the list:

xxx.plus
xxx.academy
xxx.institute
hotxxx.co
hotxxx18.com
pornlesbian.co
milf.cloud
hentai.cloud
yousex.cloud
blowjob.top
bondage.top
interracial.top
swinger.top
fisting.top
threesome.top
squirt.top
camsxxx.co
xgay.co


I know, are not .com domains but most of them are niche sites and only 1 word ultra premium keywords left of the dot (blowjob, bondage, milf, hentai, squirt, xxx (3L domain), and so on... if they are .com I've >10 billions dollars only with domain names, who work in domain industry know what I'm saying).
Every sites as from 2500 to 15k videos.

Numbers from ad (1st june - now):
click: 367
impressions: 58060
cpm: 0.052
earnings: 3.04

As I said I need traffic, I know.
These numbers are ridicolous, I've never seen 0.05 for CPM.
I've read a lot of questions here in gfy before register, and some people with 1 / 1.5$ cpm is not happy.
Is not normal make more money with parking than with developed sites.
I'm here to learn, I know, in this forum there are a lot of skilled people from adult industry.
20 sites guys, and 0.0X per day with 20 sites is not normal.
Thanks

[Denny]

It doesn't matter if you have 20 or 100 sites, if they actually have no traffic you won't make $$$.

[redlighttop]

Originally Posted by Denny

It doesn't matter if you have 20 or 100 sites, if they actually have no traffic you won't make $$$.

Yes, thank you. This is true.
Every site:
Has correct meta in the source code. And all pages are indexed by Google (sometimes organic traffic from bing, yahoo and baidu).
Social Network profiles activated.
100% responsive themes.
CDN for fast load (and all source code minified)
And so so on...
Each site was studied (from domain name to technical measures) to be extremely SEO friendly, but no traffic.
After this technical and essential work: How to increase traffic?
Every suggestion is really appreciated.

[roxpoxy]

Building up organic search traffic takes time & in the competitive adult industry even more so ,as I'm learning first hand, 2 months is not long at all SEO wise, you need to get traffic plain & simple, start getting back links to your site, submitting to every directory possible, & get a social media presence of some kind.
You could have the worlds best product but no one will buy it if they don't know about it or can't find it

[Creatine]

This is pretty normal. Welcome to the adult work.
It is an extremely competitive, cut throat niche.

You can have 1,000 websites if they have no traffic you make no money.

What i'm wondering is why have so many websites, why not concentrate on 1 and built that up?

If you're autoblogging I guess it's fine but if you are manually adding these videos I would work on 1 website instead of spreading it all out.

I get everyone wants to be like pornhub with the pornhub network and have a bunch of porn sites linked together. It sounds great, in theory, but when your a small site sitting there embeding videos it's better to work on 1 site at a time until it gets huge.


Just my 2 cents.

But yet, adult ads pay very little and you need a shit ton of traffic to just make pennies.


Off topic
I really like what you did with your network/domains it's kind of neat actually. I'm looking at https://redlight.top/ and all of the websites. Pretty cool.

[bannel]

Have you tried re-writing titles and descriptions of your embed videos? Take in consideration that another thousand of websites import videos from xhamster with same title and description and if they ranks better than you...

Also, as Creatine said, is better to develop one website (I like hotxxx18.com), work hard, change titles, descriptions, tags, get some backlinks (linkexchange is the best, don't buy), promote it on social (reddit, tumblr, twitter), why not, add some trades to grow your traffic and you will notice that with only one website your earnings will be higher than managing 20 websites.

[hotmoza]

Try to create few sites for with traffic.without traffic your all domains are died domains

[redlighttop]

Thanks for replies guys. Very useful and appreciated.

@roxpoxy. Social network profiles are active on twitter and fb. About getting backlinks, and directories, do you have any sites to advice?

@creatine thank you very much! you're right, the problem is traffic, I've to increase it, no traffic no money. Simple.
When you develop the basement, build 1 site or XX is the same.
Much effort is in design and develop the core.
When you invest and spend a lot of hours to create and customize tons of code to build a project, the real answer is why only 1 site?
All sites are automated with software. absolutly no manally adding.
Very very happy you like the project! Thank you!

@bannel thanks for the great idea to change title (no competitors, you have "custom" title and metas). But as I said all network is automated. It's impossible change the title during import. Yes, of course, it's possible. But we have to rewrite all software
Backliks are the right way, as you and other guys say. How to get some backlinks? Any idea?
We are ready for link echange, there is no problem to put some links on our network, or create a "Friend sites" page. Where to start?

I know, project is only to 2 months old, and as @roxpoxy said 2 months is not long at all SEO wise. And it's true.
But guys... Explane to me how it's possible in one week after launch make: 7,116 Unique Visitors, 37,326 Page Views.
Results read on this forum made ​​by a guy in this thread:
gfy.com/webmaster-q-and-fuckin-a/1202351-launched-paysite-7-days-ago-low-bad.html

Then it is possible to do this kind of numbers, and after one week I suppose his backlinks was very very few (or 0), and SEO is < 0 (after 1 week google does not crawls all your pages, even if you submit a sitemap. It does not even know you exist).
Our network 7,116 unique visitors has not made them in 2 months.
How to make this kind of traffic?
Thanks

[j3rkules]

You can start doing some link exchanges here:
https://gfy.com/forum31/

[adultforum]

Sooner or later your sites will got a manual action on it (if they don't already have it) because pages on your sites appear to use aggressive spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish, cloaking, scraping content from other websites.

[roxpoxy]

This forum is a good place to start for link trading, as @jerkules stated.
I'm using linkspun.com & automaticbacklinks.com with good results.
as for gfy.com/webmaster-q-and-fuckin-a/1202351-launched-paysite-7-days-ago-low-bad.html

if you read the whole thread he mentions that he built up a fanbase with tube sites & social media, then after he launched his pay site, redirected that traffic to his site.

No I haven't done any paid advertising yet.

All the content is my own and I built a fan base from a free xtube account. I then moved to an amateur pay per view xtube account, and from there worked the fuck outta social media.

Multiple tumblr accounts, vine, multiple twitter accounts, instagram, SnapChat, facebook groups, Kik groups, etc

I'm working on getting with an ad network andrive gaining affiliates now.

so he already had the traffic that was targeted for his product first, so when he finally had the product he just gave it to their waiting grubby fingers. He probably spent months building up that fanbase so the whole process took much longer then the week after his site launch

[roxpoxy]

Originally Posted by adultforum

Sooner or later your sites will got a manual action on it (if they don't already have it) because pages on your sites appear to use aggressive spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish, cloaking, scraping content from other websites.

@redlighttop

I've only glanced at your sites so I haven't seen it personally, but if you do have scrapped, spammy, content, you should correct it as soon as possible.

I made the mistake of buying a domain that had a manual action placed on it back in 2009. I'm STILL trying to get it removed. You don't want that drama.

[redlighttop]

Originally Posted by adultforum

Sooner or later your sites will got a manual action on it (if they don't already have it) because pages on your sites appear to use aggressive spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish, cloaking, scraping content from other websites.

Oh I don't know about these points, thank you very very much.
Could you be more specific, it's very interesting and I've never hear before.
I don not steal nothing, all videos are from hubtraffic and xhamster affiliated partner.
They offer the possibility to put their content in your website, you choose the category and you get the videos, it's legal.
please check:
hubtraffic.com
partners.xhamster.com/index.php
All videos (title, duration, tags) are by 3rd party.
There are a lot of tube sites they grabbed video from hubtraffic, xhamster, xvideos (and others), and it's legal, they offer the possibility, and they pay you if you send traffic.
And I don't know about spammy and generated gibberish... Please tell me where is spam and gibberish, I delete it immediatly, I don't want spam nobody.
Please help about these points is very important and for me is new.
Thank you very much.

[Creatine]

Originally Posted by redlighttop

Oh I don't know about these points, thank you very very much.
Could you be more specific, it's very interesting and I've never hear before.
I don not steal nothing, all videos are from hubtraffic and xhamster affiliated partner.
They offer the possibility to put their content in your website, you choose the category and you get the videos, it's legal.
please check:
hubtraffic.com
partners.xhamster.com/index.php
All videos (title, duration, tags) are by 3rd party.
There are a lot of tube sites they grabbed video from hubtraffic, xhamster, xvideos (and others), and it's legal, they offer the possibility, and they pay you if you send traffic.
And I don't know about spammy and generated gibberish... Please tell me where is spam and gibberish, I delete it immediatly, I don't want spam nobody.
Please help about these points is very important and for me is new.
Thank you very much.

The problem isn't legality. It's that you are taking already existing content from pornhub, xhamster Whateve and embedi f it without adding anything to it.

Google sees that as spam.

You can an article about it here: Google Warns Against Adult Video Sites With Scraped Content



Google Warns Against Adult Video Sites With Scraped Content
January 29, 2014

GoogleGoogle Warns Adult Video Scraping Sites

Google Webmaster Central Blog has just posted a new blog post warning webmasters about scraped content and their quality guidelines. In their post, they state they’ve notice many video sites “particularly in the adult industry“ with “thin or scraped content without adding substantial added value to the user”.

When Google is referencing “adult video sites”, no doubt they’re referring to many of the porn tube sites built by embedding iframe videos from other popular porn sites. This is a great way to build porn sites without the need to develop and host content.There are various adult scripts out there that will even pull and post the videos automatically.

As Google has pointed out, there are some disadvantages. Those disadvantages are duplicate content. That doesn’t mean that adult embed tube sites won’t work, it just means that content has to be added or modified in order to keep things “fresh”.

A lot of these automated scripts, however, could eventually be done away with. The problem with scripts is that usually they won’t change up the title or any additional text content that could be scraped from the tube site. Now imagine if there are hundreds of adult webmasters running the same scripts. That’s a lot of duplicate content. If the script doesn’t change the title from the tube site it originally scraped it from, then you’re competing with the original tube site. Even though you may gain a longtail, you will never outrank the original tube site for their own content if it’s 100% duplicate.



The Solution? Add Additional Content!

It’s amazing how big of a difference adding a description can make. Google likes words. Since the porn industry is mainly video and image-based, it can make things complicated. Remember how Playboy had all those articles and few pictures, while all the hardcore mags had little text and a whole lot of images? Think Playboy. You need the text. Humans love to look, crawlers love to read.

And please, don’t use the same title as the tube site the embed code is coming from. Like it was mentioned earlier, you are never going to out-SEO the original source with the same title. You might get a longtail, maybe even first page but you won’t outrank them.



Affiliate Content – RSS & Promotional Content

Notice how Google explicitly calls out affiliate marketers. It’s long been rumored that Google has a grudge against affiliate marketers, which is ironic as Google has an affiliate network themselves. Maybe they detest affiliate marketing outside of their network. Maybe Google only hates spammy affiliates and has respect for the more whitehat ones. You decide.

Either way, there is one big concern with adult affiliate marketing programs, and that is that it is all essentially duplicate content. The advantage is, you’re probably only competing with other affiliates and not necessarily the porn site itself as they hide most their content behind pay-walls.

RSS feeds have to be the worst, and I’m sure a great deal of what Google is referencing is dealing with content syndicated through RSS feeds. Imagine how many webmasters subscribe to the same feeds. Sure, some programs have “smart feeds” that display dynamic content, but there’s got to be some overlap somewhere.

Galleries and video files are duplicate as well. So when all the webmasters are working with the same content, how do you solve duplicate content issues? For the most part, the solutions are the same as for the tube site conundrum; Modify and add content.



Create Unique Titles And Descriptions

The solution to the duplicate issue with affiliate content is to make it “not duplicate”. Sure, the images and video content will essentially be the same, but there are ways of doing this. The first, is like the sub-title suggests; Create unique titles and descriptions. Use a unique URL structure. There are elements on the page that you can control, and even though portions of the content may be duplicate, the titles and descriptions can be 100% unique.

It’s also possible to change the file names and meta information for image and video files prior to uploading. By modifying these from their original forms, it makes the content that much “less duplicate” than everyone else.

To no surprise, these are also the SEO best practices.




On top of all of this keep in mind there are 1,000's of other websites doing the exact same thing as yourself.
I browse a forum called TheBotNet it's just a shitty internet money making forum. But many people create porn tube sites there and they do the exact same thing you're doing. Except with shittier domains I must add.

Just look at some of these porn tube sites


Everyday someone is asking for a review of their new "amazing" porn tube site.







Your domains look a lot better and your templates are way more professional, but that's not enough to carry you. You are still competing with hundreds, probably 1,000's of websites that are doing the same exact thing as you thinking "Oh man i'll be the next XNXX i'll make 1,000's from hubtraffic embeding their shit."

The only one really profiting is pornhub.


I'm sure it is possible to grow a successful tube website embedding but it is very, very, very difficult.

[redlighttop]

@Creatine
This is the best reply I can read!
Thank you very very much, really useful.
I take into consideration the way to change title/description and put a video description under the video.
To make content "fresh" and "unique".

I've more good domains to develop, and after your reply I have to change my approach.
No develop tube sites using iframe and affiliated partner, ok I will do it.
Do you have something to suggest? A pay site? An affiliate site? No tube sites, but ...... ?
Absolutly no problem about software development. There are a lot skilled developers with me.

For sites already developed, rebuild, and redesign them is very hard at this point...
Is there a way to bypass iframe and use custom video player and read the remote video source file (.flv/.mp4 file)?

Every suggestions is really useful.

Thanks again, very appreciated.

[Creatine]

Originally Posted by redlighttop

@Creatine
This is the best reply I can read!
Thank you very very much, really useful.
I take into consideration the way to change title/description and put a video description under the video.
To make content "fresh" and "unique".

I've more good domains to develop, and after your reply I have to change my approach.
No develop tube sites using iframe and affiliated partner, ok I will do it.
Do you have something to suggest? A pay site? An affiliate site? No tube sites, but ...... ?
Absolutly no problem about software development. There are a lot skilled developers with me.

For sites already developed, rebuild, and redesign them is very hard at this point...
Is there a way to bypass iframe and use custom video player and read the remote video source file (.flv/.mp4 file)?

Every suggestions is really useful.

Thanks again, very appreciated.

I'm honestly not sure what to tell you on suggestions. Take a look around on gfy pay sites are all complaining about piracy, file hosts stealing contend, and tube sites.

I personally would want to deal with the hassle of a pay site. That's just me.


I was on a forum called blackhatworld it's an SEO forum someone asked if its worth starting a porn tube site
http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/is-it-worth-starting-a-new-porn-adult-website.446011/

Here's a reply that really made me think.


This guy is right.

Everyone seems to be complaining about earnings in the adult industry. Honestly my suggestion is, I would get out of the adult niche.

You can hop into Amazon affiliate niche, fiver gigs, website flipping, there's many niches not related to porn.

If you do intend to stay with porn it will be an uphill battle. Many people are doing cams and can affiliates I suppose you can use your tubes to promote that.


I feel a little bit hypocritical right now because I have a tube site as well, everyday I sit here wondering..,is this worth it? I can probably make more money unboxing shit, recording it and uploading it to YouTube.

It takes up a lot of my time because I manually post. Ideas and I even use Sony Vegas to render videos with my watermark and upload them to other porn sites etc etc.

Sometimes I feel like I should work on something else I just can't bring myself to shut it down because I see how successful pornhub is and want to be like that.

In the back of my head I know it's not worth it but I can't bring myself to shut the sites down.

[Miguel T]

Dude... there is no money in Porn.

It seems that you have failed.
Forget about it, move to next
...

Maybe adult isnt your thing? Mainstream == $$

[magnatek]

Sorry mate but you wont get any traffic with those domains.they are not Top level domains.

[redlighttop]

Really appreciate your answers @Creatine, thank you so much for your time and for your useful advices.

Originally Posted by Zuzana Miguel

Dude... there is no money in Porn.

It seems that you have failed.
Forget about it, move to next
...

Maybe adult isnt your thing? Mainstream == $$

Sorry man but this is the most funny answers I've never read.
No money in the porn?
Ok, why are you here?
Why do you work in the adult industry?
Why do you spend your preciuos time in this forum (12k messages) and in adult industry if there are no money?
You work for charity?
Do you love work for 0 or no money? Please. I guess you have earned millions in this industry.
I know this is a very closed world, and every "newbie" approach this world is not liked. Like every other business (domain insdustry, selling, marketing and so on).
I've spend > 20 years in other business and the first think I've learned is: Do not listen to anyone who tells you you get out of it . No one wants to split the cake.

Originally Posted by magnatek

Sorry mate but you wont get any traffic with those domains.they are not Top level domains.

Ok man, instead your domain live-private.com is a premium domain, right? If you don't know domain industry please don't talk about domaining.
And it does not matter if it is .com, with dash it's horrible, it's value is 5$.
Are not top level domain? Are you serious? Do you know what "top level domains" means? Every my domain is gTLD (generic top level domain), only the .co is a ccTLD (country code top level domain for Colombia) but for search engines is like a gTLD.
Check wikipedia (example) for .top, .academy extensions and read.

Now talk about traffic (or potential traffic)

live-private.com
Estimated Value: 200$
Average Monthly Search Stats - Broad Match - live privates
Monthly Searches: 2,549
Cost Per Click: $0.33 USD
Ad Competition: low
Data Age: Recent


bondage.top
Estimated Value: 6500$
Average Monthly Search Stats - Broad Match - bondage
Monthly Searches: 6,100,000
Cost Per Click: $0.73 USD
Ad Competition: low
Data Age: Recent


6,100,000 vs 2,549 monthly searches.
Which domain has most potential if developed in the right way?

[magnatek]

Originally Posted by redlighttop

Really appreciate your answers @Creatine, thank you so much for your time and for your useful advices.



Sorry man but this is the most funny answers I've never read.
No money in the porn?
Ok, why are you here?
Why do you work in the adult industry?
Why do you spend your preciuos time in this forum (12k messages) and in adult industry if there are no money?
You work for charity?
Do you love work for 0 or no money? Please. I guess you have earned millions in this industry.
I know this is a very closed world, and every "newbie" approach this world is not liked. Like every other business (domain insdustry, selling, marketing and so on).
I've spend > 20 years in other business and the first think I've learned is: Do not listen to anyone who tells you you get out of it . No one wants to split the cake.





Ok man, instead your domain live-private.com is a premium domain, right? If you don't know domain industry please don't talk about domaining.
And it does not matter if it is .com, with dash it's horrible, it's value is 5$.
Are not top level domain? Are you serious? Do you know what "top level domains" means? Every my domain is gTLD (generic top level domain), only the .co is a ccTLD (country code top level domain for Colombia) but for search engines is like a gTLD.
Check wikipedia (example) for .top, .academy extensions and read.

Now talk about traffic (or potential traffic)

live-private.com
Estimated Value: 200$
Average Monthly Search Stats - Broad Match - live privates
Monthly Searches: 2,549
Cost Per Click: $0.33 USD
Ad Competition: low
Data Age: Recent


bondage.top
Estimated Value: 6500$
Average Monthly Search Stats - Broad Match - bondage
Monthly Searches: 6,100,000
Cost Per Click: $0.73 USD
Ad Competition: low
Data Age: Recent


6,100,000 vs 2,549 monthly searches.
Which domain has most potential if developed in the right way?

At this statistic you should win a lot of money from advertising.(6.100.000 searches)
Or is something wrong with your 'website valuator".

[MrBeavis]

Create much, much more unique and relevant content.
Have a lot of patience. Use Twitter a.s.
If your websites are not on the same IP address, link to your own websites.
Get more backlinks. Buy, trade them. Better 1 good backlink a month then 10 shitty ones overnight.
It always starts with no visitors and no conversion.

[RachelBlackG]

I'd definitely go with hosted videos if you want tube site. Embeds suck. Create your own embed system, your own affiliate system, scout market for unqiue videos that would be found only on your site (or better create your own content, hire models..), use unique titles and long descriptions with auto-generated pics from videos, offer paid membership for HD version of vids, offer users some reward for refering your site, build your own cam section as well, advertise it on ad platforms. There is many things that you can come up. And more must come because you need to be somehow different from others.

Basically, if you want to be someone, you need to have something. It goes the same with pay site. I don't see anything good on sites that only buy content somewhere and then offer it. Mostly its quality sucks, because these people have no idea about creative work and look at x-art or brazzers videos. It becomes more and more creative. It's not only about porn. Competition pushes everything to higher and higher levels. I have never paid for porn, but I would pay, if it were something .. different.

I always ask myself why do I use this or that site? Then you can find some interesting answers. Something like my own little marketing research. Why should I use your sites? I click first embed video and stay on that site while close yours. 2 months is absolutely nothing in adult. One of my blogs that have thousands of visits from Google was noticed after 3 years. Sometimes good things need time.

[3xmedia]

nowadays it's almost impossible to make money from porn for newbies. most of them think porn is easy and fast money, but they actually have no clue about anything, are lazy, impatient and naive. 95%+ of them fuck around and try to do someting but in a few weeks/months they just fail, give up and keep their day job.

it's not 1999 anymore, when you just submitted a few galleries to TGPs and cashed checks.

[myleene]

Originally Posted by redlighttop

Thank you very much for replies guys, if it's possible post the sites, here the list:

xxx.plus
xxx.academy
xxx.institute
hotxxx.co
hotxxx18.com
pornlesbian.co
milf.cloud
hentai.cloud
yousex.cloud
blowjob.top
bondage.top
interracial.top
swinger.top
fisting.top
threesome.top
squirt.top
camsxxx.co
xgay.co


I know, are not .com domains but most of them are niche sites and only 1 word ultra premium keywords left of the dot (blowjob, bondage, milf, hentai, squirt, xxx (3L domain), and so on... if they are .com I've >10 billions dollars only with domain names, who work in domain industry know what I'm saying).
Every sites as from 2500 to 15k videos.

Numbers from ad (1st june - now):
click: 367
impressions: 58060
cpm: 0.052
earnings: 3.04

As I said I need traffic, I know.
These numbers are ridicolous, I've never seen 0.05 for CPM.
I've read a lot of questions here in gfy before register, and some people with 1 / 1.5$ cpm is not happy.
Is not normal make more money with parking than with developed sites.
I'm here to learn, I know, in this forum there are a lot of skilled people from adult industry.
20 sites guys, and 0.0X per day with 20 sites is not normal.
Thanks

I'm already surprised you made 3$ from these sites.

Your domain names are crappy, you use embeds used by 10,000+ other sites and you bring no value whatsoever to a surfer.

What did the 58k surfers you've had get in bonus to going to the sites which you embed from? Nothing.

It doesn't matter if you have 200, 5000 or 1,000,000 embeds. They're all worth shit.

Google honeymoon won't last and you websites will either be penalized or get lost in the searches. Just as they deserve.


Rethink your strategy and website building. This one won't work to bring substantial income and it's not a good one long-term.

The only one really profiting is pornhub.

Exactly.

[redlighttop]

@MrBeavis & @RachelBlackG
Thank you guys!
These are the answers that I like (and that I NEED).
@RachelBlackG: Ok I'll give up the embed, and start to hosting and create custom content, with all the features that you reported.
It seems to be the best way to increase traffic.

Originally Posted by 3xmedia

nowadays it's almost impossible to make money from porn for newbies. most of them think porn is easy and fast money, but they actually have no clue about anything, are lazy, impatient and naive. 95%+ of them fuck around and try to do someting but in a few weeks/months they just fail, give up and keep their day job.

it's not 1999 anymore, when you just submitted a few galleries to TGPs and cashed checks.

Have I write "Guys I'm in adult industry now because here we make a lot of many, very fast!1!1!1!"?
Sarcasm does not help me, does not help other members.
If you want, if you have time, every advice will be very useful.
I see you're in this industry since 04, you're much skilled I suppose.
Why instead of reminding me that we are no longer in 99, you do not give me some useful (2016) advice, like a professional with decades of experience would do?

Originally Posted by myleene

I'm already surprised you made 3$ from these sites.

Your domain names are crappy, you use embeds used by 10,000+ other sites and you bring no value whatsoever to a surfer.

What did the 58k surfers you've had get in bonus to going to the sites which you embed from? Nothing.

It doesn't matter if you have 200, 5000 or 1,000,000 embeds. They're all worth shit.

Google honeymoon won't last and you websites will either be penalized or get lost in the searches. Just as they deserve.


Rethink your strategy and website building. This one won't work to bring substantial income and it's not a good one long-term.



Exactly.

Ok, I respect and understand your point of view.
But if you say:

Originally Posted by myleene

It doesn't matter if you have 200, 5000 or 1,000,000 embeds. They're all worth shit.

I perfectly understand, you're right.
Which is the the best way? Host my content?
I can host my content, but what about produced content?
If I have to buy it (in every part of the market from underground to mainstream channels like brazzers), because I have not a studio, a model agency, actors, cameramen, producers..... Like most of us, except (very) few, the problem is the same:

Originally Posted by myleene

What did the 58k surfers you've had get in bonus to going to the sites which you embed from? Nothing.

Change embed with buy

I can rethink my strategies, but the solution (for increase traffic, the core of this thread) can not be content producer.

[genki__]

Well, i dont know why some members here are so negative, if you wont Help whith your reply, shut up your mouth, very good for creatine, i learned about his comment, some people say, te re is not money in porn, relly?? other guy says that if you embed videos wont get traffic, what about this web videosxxxputas.xxx more than 5k of vistors online at the same time during the whole day, embed vídeos you cant even watch the videos from your celphone, seems líke that theory is not true.

This is my advice, as some other members said, take 1 web and work on it, title, description, etc... I bought my tube 1 year ago, 300-400 daily visitors, first i did change domain name,change the theme for one premium and resposive, i did not know about to make a description, but some month later i started to add description, I have yoast by seo pluging installed, install it, now I have only 1600 videos and more than 2500 daily visitors and growing, I am editing all vídeos that dont have description, I am paying for it, you have to mate link exchange with other sites, pay for other Kind of links, you have to spent a lot of money if you want your síte grow up andar work Hard on it, Just dont give up, take your Best domain and start working.

[RachelBlackG]

Originally Posted by genki__

Well, i dont know why some members here are so negative...

Of course you can have some traffic with embeds. But that doesn't change anything - building site on embeds suck (I have these sites as well), because it's just a tool how to drive traffic to website that offers them. That's business thinking. Let THEM drive THEIR traffic to US. It may seem like a good deal, but try to think why someone offers embeds. Why would they do that?

When you take linked content from elsewhere you are also automatically dependent on some third side. That's not the best longterm strategy. I don't say it won't work. I say there are better ways. But it's just my opinion.

Besides I think that we all try to give our best advice here.

[redlighttop]

Thank you very much for your usefull syggestions guys, we are rethink our strategies and follow you suggestions.
Our goal now, for the sites already developed, is rewrite all titles and make content "unique" and "fresh" (for search engines).
And I want ask to you if our process is correct.

REWRITE TITLES & DESCRIPTIONS.
Point #1: Titles
All sites listed in the first post, are already developed. So I can not reimport all videos.
We are developing a new software that permit to us to change all titles.
Here you are some specs, every comment is really appreciated.
Our developers are building a PHP application, based on this API:
words.bighugelabs.com/api.php
Whit this API, you can retrieving the synonyms for any word.
So, our application will read the title, and replace every word with its synonym, to create a complete different title, but with the same "logic".
What do you think about this strategy? Change titles manually is impossible, too many videos and to many sites.
I need an authomatic process.
For you, is it the best solution or exist something already developed that permit to change titles with synonym?

Point #2: Description.
What do you mean exactly with change description? The meta description (<meta name="description">) or a video description above the video?

As i said this is a custom solution for sites already developd, for next projects I'll follow your useful suggestions (host content, unique content, and all feature you have reported).
Every suggestions about our solution is very appreciate.
If the strategy is perfect and somebody will need our applications, no problem for us to release with gfy members.
Thanks

[RachelBlackG]

Google can work with synonyms, but it's definitely worth to try it. Few years back I tried quite same thing with automatic titles rewriting on ayeporn.com (it changed position of words and added some new ones). It didn't work. But it could be just bad link profile or something. You can also try translating it into another language. That could work. I think that some people do it on german market.

They mean video description.

[redlighttop]

Originally Posted by RachelBlackG

Google can work with synonyms, but it's definitely worth to try it. Few years back I tried quite same thing with automatic titles rewriting on ayeporn.com (it changed position of words and added some new ones). It didn't work. But it could be just bad link profile or something. You can also try translating it into another language. That could work. I think that some people do it on german market.

They mean video description.

Thanks @RachelBlackG! Very useful suggestion the translation in other languages! We'll do it!
And thanks for description advice.
Change titles with synonyms (for me, at the moment) is the best solution for sites already developed.
I've spend a lot of time to discover a solution for massive titles change, but we've find only that API and synonyms do not alter the original meaning of the title.
If anyone know other (and more faster) solutions, I'm here.

OT: @RachelBlackG, can I know how many unique visitors per day has your site ayeporn.com? Thanks