News General Jeff Sessions' testimony Tuesday 6/13

[TheDynasty]

Going to be interesting to see.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions' testimony before Congress
Date: Tuesday, June 13th, 2017
Time: 2:30 p.m. ET; coverage begins on CBSN at 1 p.m.
On TV: CBS News, check your local listings
CBSN: Jeff Sessions live blog
CBSN: Sessions hearing live online stream
Post-coverage: Special edition of "Red & Blue" on CBSN, 7 p.m.
A CBS News Special Report will air live coverage of Sessions' testimony. The broadcast will be hosted by Scott Pelley, starting Thursday at 2:30 p.m. ET. CBSN will also live stream Sessions' testimony.

[Rochard]

This will be highly entertaining.

Comey testifying was amazing. What's most amazing is the spin that came out afterwards. Suddenly Republicans were calling him a liar, Trump was calling him a leaker, and they both claimed his actions were illegal and had no impact. Bullshit - The President Of the United States "nicely asked" the Director of The FBI to drop the investigation into Flynn because he is a "nice guy". At the very same time, we have Trump's son on video saying "When Trump asks for something, he isn't asking he is telling you to do it".

This is insane. The President asked the FBI Director to drop an investigation, then fired him for not doing it, and then tried to intimidate him. No matter how you look at this it's obstruction of justice.

[TheDynasty]

Who's watching?

[Bladewire]

I am when it starts

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Jeff Sessions live testimony on Russia

Originally Posted by Bladewire

[crockett]

oh, well I had stuff to do earlier figured I'd have to watch a recording.. Guess I'm here in time to see him lie on live TV..

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I am when it starts

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[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

Great observation

[Bladewire]

Is there a glass of vodka and a glass of water on the left? I think he just drank out of the vodka glass

He's so twitchy

[TheDynasty]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Is there a glass of vodka and a glass of water on the left? I think he just drank out of the vodka glass

He's so twitchy

he didn't start drinking until they brought up Russia

[Barry-xlovecam]

[crockett]

He's already lied in his opening statements.. Claiming he never met with any Russians.. This guy needs to be gone.. Is he under oath again? I didn't hear them say he would be under oath...

[Bladewire]

He just parsed his words very specifically. Didn't say he didn't meet with Russians point blank. He's also very condescending and combative, a sign of guilt

[crockett]

It's funny he didn't see the need to follow Justice Department rules "until" 3 days after it was outed he had met with Russians..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by TheDynasty

he didn't start drinking until they brought up Russia

Except when he was reading his prepared statement.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's funny he didn't see the need to follow Justice Department rules "until" 3 days after it was outed he had met with Russians..

Sworn in on the 9th
Meeting on 10th that suggested he should recuse himself that day

[Boozer]

Originally Posted by baddog

Except when he was reading his prepared statement.

Which was after the chairmas opening remarks. His point still stands.

Dont worry.. Sessions selective memory will not incriminate anyone.

[Bladewire]

"we never functioned as a coherent team"

Incriminating because he's setting the tone for plausible deniability

He drank from his vodka glass after that lol

[Boozer]

Warner is hammering Sessions.. You can see sessions squirming.

[Bladewire]

"Its possible that I had a meeting but I don't recall it" lie

"Not to my recollection" lie

He's talking slow and going off on tangents to run out his time on questioning. Shady

He's recalling a lot of things during the same time, and same day, very specifically, but gets fuzzy on Russia.

[Bladewire]

He doesn't know why he felt he needed to stay while Comey was meeting with the president? Lie

"I don't think I had any direct involvement" Lie

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

Sworn in on the 9th
Meeting on 10th that suggested he should recuse himself that day

He assumed office February 9, 2017,

On March 1, 2017, Sessions came under scrutiny after reports surfaced that he had contact with Russian government officials during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, even though during his confirmation hearings he denied he had any discussions with representatives of the Russian government.

On March 2, Sessions announced that he would recuse himself from any investigations into Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election.[99] That same day, The Wall Street Journal reported that Sessions's contact with the Russians had been investigated. It was not clear whether the investigation was ongoing.

Where the fuck do you come up with your "facts" Baddog? It took him almost a month before he recused himself and it was only after his meetings with Russians came to light. During that month Sessions was engaged in the Russian investigation and there were countless calls for him to recuse himself in which he ignored until he was outed for lying in his confirmation.

[Bladewire]

They say he has no legal grounds not to answer questions as he's not invoking the 5th or executive priveledge, yet he still refuses to answer based on his "feeling" of protecting conversations with the president.

Obstruction of justice

[Bladewire]

"I did not have a "meeting" but I might have had an "encounter" with Russian ambassador kislyak" what a slippery little little game player.

You don't play word games unless you're hiding something.

[Rochard]

I didn't watch most of this, but I've watched for a few minutes and here are my thoughts....

It's very, very clear this is a completely partisan issue. Republicans are asking very lame questions, and it's very clear that Sessions has written answers to these questions. Senator James Lankford (R Oklahoma) just asked him a question, and Sessions pretty much read an answer from a piece of paper. This is not an attempt to get at the truth; This is clearly planned out well in advance.

Seems to me Sessions is refusing to answer a lot of questions.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I didn't watch most of this, but I've watched for a few minutes and here are my thoughts....

It's very, very clear this is a completely partisan issue. Republicans are asking very lame questions, and it's very clear that Sessions has written answers to these questions. Senator James Lankford (R Oklahoma) just asked him a question, and Sessions pretty much read an answer from a piece of paper. This is not an attempt to get at the truth; This is clearly planned out well in advance.

Seems to me Sessions is refusing to answer a lot of questions.

The same republicans who continue to treat this Russian investigation like a conspiracy theory are the same republicans who required countless investigations into Benghazi and Hillary Clinton emails. Republicans are partisan to the core and are authoritative by nature.

They are ok with telling everyone else what to do, how you can live your life, what to be outraged about, but damn sure it's blasphemy to ever question them..

Example was Sen Cotton that didn't even ask a question about anything related to the Russia investigation or Trump but just went on and only about conspiracy theories and non sense.

Sen Cotton asked no useful questions and treated this all as a farce, yet he grilled Obama & Hillary relentlessly over Benghazi. Republicans at this point are aiding and abetting treason.

Republicans simply can not be trusted running the govt in their current status as partisan hacks.. Their toys have to be taken away and they need to be sent to time out by the voters of this country, until they can reassemble their party into something that puts good of our country before their political party..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems to me Sessions is refusing to answer a lot of questions.

He's stonewalling almost every single question with:

"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"

Kamala Harris is asking simple questions and he has answered not one question definitively.

People with nothing to hide don't stonewall

[MaDalton]

this Harris woman is feisty

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

He assumed office February 9, 2017,

On March 1, 2017, Sessions came under scrutiny after reports surfaced that he had contact with Russian government officials during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, even though during his confirmation hearings he denied he had any discussions with representatives of the Russian government.

On March 2, Sessions announced that he would recuse himself from any investigations into Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election.[99] That same day, The Wall Street Journal reported that Sessions's contact with the Russians had been investigated. It was not clear whether the investigation was ongoing.

Where the fuck do you come up with your "facts" Baddog? It took him almost a month before he recused himself and it was only after his meetings with Russians came to light. During that month Sessions was engaged in the Russian investigation and there were countless calls for him to recuse himself in which he ignored until he was outed for lying in his confirmation.

I must not have heard the entire question/answer correctly, as I was typing it as Sessions was saying it.

[baddog]

Let me also explain clearly the circumstances of my recusal from the investigation into the Russian interference with the 2016 election. I was sworn in as Attorney General on Thursday, February 9th. The very next day, I met with career Department officials, including a senior ethics official, to discuss some things publicly reported in the press and that might have some bearing on the issue of recusal. From that point, February 10th, until I announced my formal recusal on March 2nd, I was never briefed on any investigative details and did not access information about the investigation; I received only the limited information that the Department’s career officials determined was necessary to inform my recusal decision. As such, I have no knowledge about this investigation beyond what has been publicly reported, and I have taken no action with regard to any such investigation. On the date of my formal recusal, my Chief of Staff sent an email to the heads of the relevant departments, including by name to Director Comey of the FBI, to instruct them to inform their staffs of this recusal and to advise them not to brief me or involve me in any such matters. And in fact, they have not. Importantly, I recused myself not because of any asserted wrongdoing on my part during the campaign, but because a Department of Justice regulation, 28 CFR 45.2, required it. That regulation states, in effect, that Department employees should not participate in investigations of a campaign if they have served as a campaign advisor.

[crockett]

It's rather odd he doesn't seem to recall anything that might be troubling for him but sure has a great memory if it's something that can help him or that he can go off on a tangent about to run out time.

This guy is a joke and a disgrace to his position. He needs to be removed. The Justice Department can not be held with respect as long as the guy running it has lied under oath and continues to purposely obstruct the justice process. You can not be the head of the DOJ if you refuse to answer simple questions during a investigation by the US Senate while stating there is no law which stops you from answering..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's rather odd he doesn't seem to recall anything that might be troubling for him but sure has a great memory if it's something that can help him or that he can go off on a tangent about to run out time.

This guy is a joke and a disgrace to his position. He needs to be removed. The Justice Department can not be held with respect as long as the guy running it has lied under oath and continues to purposely obstruct the justice process. You can not be the head of the DOJ if you refuse to answer simple questions during a investigation by the US Senate while stating there is no law which stops you from answering..

He answers a specific question and he is still wrong.

Too bad most of the Democrats didn't know how to examine someone.

When did he lie under oath?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

He answers a specific question and he is still wrong.

Too bad most of the Democrats didn't know how to examine someone.

When did he lie under oath?

As Bladewire mentioned.. Sessions's favorite answered were...


"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"


Yet these are specific answers good for baddog... Also get real dude.. He lied under oath about Russian meetings during his conformation hearing.. This is known fact at this point.. Why even try to pretend you don't know about that?

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by crockett

As Bladewire mentioned.. Sessions's favorite answered were...


"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"


Yet these are specific answers good for baddog... Also get real dude.. He lied under oath about Russian meetings during his conformation hearing.. This is known fact at this point.. Why even try to pretend you don't know about that?

You ready to admit that Comey is the one that told Trump on his own, three times, he is not under investigation? Or are you still 10 feet in the sand?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's rather odd he doesn't seem to recall anything that might be troubling for him but sure has a great memory if it's something that can help him or that he can go off on a tangent about to run out time.

This guy is a joke and a disgrace to his position. He needs to be removed. The Justice Department can not be held with respect as long as the guy running it has lied under oath and continues to purposely obstruct the justice process. You can not be the head of the DOJ if you refuse to answer simple questions during a investigation by the US Senate while stating there is no law which stops you from answering..

Exactly, he recalled specifically his discussion with the Ukrainian ambassador and each specific point, yet that same day he didn't recall anything specific when he spoke to the Russian ambassador. Jeff Sessions is a liar and he's hiding a lot by not remembering and claiming he can't answer questions about the president while not claiming executive priveledge.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Exactly, he recalled specifically his discussion with the Ukrainian ambassador and each specific point, yet that same day he didn't recall anything specific when he spoke to the Russian ambassador. Jeff Sessions is a liar and he's hiding a lot by not remembering and claiming he can't answer questions about the president while not claiming executive priveledge.

Yep, him and others are stalling

[crockett]

Here is Jeff Sesions shaking the hand of the Russian Diplomat at the GOP Mayflower Hotel event of which he has no memory of..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

As Bladewire mentioned.. Sessions's favorite answered were...


"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"


Yet these are specific answers good for baddog... Also get real dude.. He lied under oath about Russian meetings during his conformation hearing.. This is known fact at this point.. Why even try to pretend you don't know about that?

Like I said, the Democrats don't know how to word a question. His responses were probably accurate because they were fishing and didn't have a clue what they were looking for.

Rule one: Don't ask a question you don't know the answer to.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Axeman

You ready to admit that Comey is the one that told Trump on his own, three times, he is not under investigation? Or are you still 10 feet in the sand?

I will answer your questions from now on with one of Jeff Sessions perfectly acceptable answers.. For this one I will choose.. "I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"

[baddog]

From your testimony, you said you don't remember whether the ambassador from Russia was there.

SESSIONS: I did not remember that, but I understand he was there. So I don't doubt that he was. I believe that representations are correct. I recently saw a video of him coming into the room.

[baddog]

WARNER: To the best of your memory you had no conversation with him at that meet something.

SESSIONS: I don't recall that, senator.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Yep, him and others are stalling

They are stalling right to the mid terms which will be a disastrous choice for the Republican party. Even McCain said he thinks Republicans might lose the House because of the toxic partisanship from his own party..

This mid term election will be very insistently fought over and much of the Gerrymandering that has kept Republicans in secure seating for years is being undone..

Obama went right to work after he left office and has been working with other Democrats to fight the illegal gerrymandering that has been done all over the southern states.. So far they have not lost a single court case, because what Republicans have done is 100% illegal and very often to have been racially motivated.

This coming mid term will be a drastic change for congress.. Trump will end up being the guy who destroyed the Republican party. It's because of him and the current toxic environment that people have had enough of it, took notice and started fighting them. If they would have picked as less toxic leader, perhaps they could have went on for another 20 years in power with their gerrymandered states and figuring out new ways to stop people from voting..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

I will answer your questions from now on with one of Jeff Sessions perfectly acceptable answer..

"I don't recall"

"I don't believe so"

"Not to my recollection"

"I don't know at this time"

"I'm not sure, I might know later though"

"I believe so"

Find the transcript and show specific examples of when it wasn't an appropriate response.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by baddog

From your testimony, you said you don't remember whether the ambassador from Russia was there.

SESSIONS: I did not remember that, but I understand he was there. So I don't doubt that he was. I believe that representations are correct. I recently saw a video of him coming into the room.

Notice he didn't say that he didn't speak to him or see him or shake hands with him. You can do all those things and "understand he was there". You can do all those things and "not doubt he was there". You can do all those things and "believe that representations are correct".

You see the wordplay?

Honest answer:

"I've since heard he was there but I didn't see him or have any interaction with him when I was there."

Very simple, but not for Jeff Sessions.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

Like I said, the Democrats don't know how to word a question. His responses were probably accurate because they were fishing and didn't have a clue what they were looking for.

Rule one: Don't ask a question you don't know the answer to.

No, this is not the case at all. It wasn't that the questions were improperly worded.

I didn't watch all of it, but at one point Sessions was being asked if certain people had contacts with the Russian government during the Trump Campaign. He was asked if Micheal Flynn had contacts with the Russian government during the Trump campaign and he replied with "I do not recall". Really, how could Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General of the United States, "not recall" that the National Security Advisor was forced to resign because he lied about working for a foreign government? Not only was it front page news, it's very, very important to his position as Attorney General who might be pressing charges against Flynn. How can he "not recall"?

Sessions was also asked about Paul Manafort, and if Manafort had any connections with the Russian government. We know he worked directly for the Ukrainian government and the then pro Russian president, and he is currently under investigation for these contacts. This is common knowledge, but Sessions said "I do not remember" when asked if Manafort had any connections to the Russian government.

In both cases the answer to this is "Yes" and anyone who has followed the news in the past five months knows this. Why couldn't the attorney general of the United States properly answer these questions?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why couldn't the attorney general of the United States properly answer these questions?

Because he's knee deep in it and dirty as they come.

You don't recuse yourself from the Russian investigation, then write a letter for the reason why the investigator on the Russian case should be fired. Sessions is a shady bad little elf, the kind that makes broken Christmas toys

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, this is not the case at all. It wasn't that the questions were improperly worded.

I didn't watch all of it, but at one point Sessions was being asked if certain people had contacts with the Russian government during the Trump Campaign. He was asked if Micheal Flynn had contacts with the Russian government during the Trump campaign and he replied with "I do not recall". Really, how could Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General of the United States, "not recall" that the National Security Advisor was forced to resign because he lied about working for a foreign government? Not only was it front page news, it's very, very important to his position as Attorney General who might be pressing charges against Flynn. How can he "not recall"?

Sessions was also asked about Paul Manafort, and if Manafort had any connections with the Russian government. We know he worked directly for the Ukrainian government and the then pro Russian president, and he is currently under investigation for these contacts. This is common knowledge, but Sessions said "I do not remember" when asked if Manafort had any connections to the Russian government.

In both cases the answer to this is "Yes" and anyone who has followed the news in the past five months knows this. Why couldn't the attorney general of the United States properly answer these questions?

You answered your own question early on; you didn't watch it all.

Paste the testimony here. I watched it and I suspect in some instances it would be hearsay to go on what he heard but hadn't confirmed personally.

[baddog]

And he wasn't AG during the Trump campaign

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

They are stalling right to the mid terms which will be a disastrous choice for the Republican party. Even McCain said he thinks Republicans might lose the House because of the toxic partisanship from his own party..

This mid term election will be very insistently fought over and much of the Gerrymandering that has kept Republicans in secure seating for years is being undone..

Obama went right to work after he left office and has been working with other Democrats to fight the illegal gerrymandering that has been done all over the southern states.. So far they have not lost a single court case, because what Republicans have done is 100% illegal and very often to have been racially motivated.

This coming mid term will be a drastic change for congress.. Drumpf will end up being the guy who destroyed the Republican party. It's because of him and the current toxic environment that people have had enough of it, took notice and started fighting them. If they would have picked as less toxic leader, perhaps they could have went on for another 20 years in power with their gerrymandered states and figuring out new ways to stop people from voting..

What we have right now is two things... We have this Russian and Obstruction Of Justice investigation, and a stalled agenda where nothing is getting done.

The investigations will go on for some time. This is not going away. Trump firing Comey just tossed a lot more fuel on the fire. He made a bad situation much much worse.

At the same time Trump is telling us no administration has worked faster to get things done. During the (rather odd) cabinet meeting yesterday one person said "thank you for getting the country moving again". No major legislation has been passed.

In fact, yesterday's cabinet meeting was... the very first full cabinet meeting of the Trump Administration. We are five months into Trump's administration and this is the first full cabinet meeting? What? Why did it take so long?

Trump's approval rating is an all time low and not getting any better. This will be a huge problem for Republicans.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

You answered your own question early on; you didn't watch it all.

Paste the testimony here. I watched it and I suspect in some instances it would be hearsay to go on what he heard but hadn't confirmed personally.

I quoted the parts I watched. He was asked a very specific question where the only proper answer was "yes" and he instead answered "I don't recall".

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

And he wasn't AG during the Drumpf campaign

I don't see how this relates to our conversation, but since you bring it up.... Why exactly did Sessions meet with the Russians? Twenty-six other people on the Committee on Armed Services and ONLY Sessions met with the Russians.

Why did Sessions meet with the Russians and what was discussed?