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Old 01-22-2018, 05:10 PM   #1
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How many of you wish OBAMA was still president?

Would your life be much better if we turned back the clock?
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:31 PM   #2
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That's not how Demoracy works. Obama had his terms and now he's out. We just have to deal with the Republican/Trump issue which is being dealt with legally.

The current issues have come about because one party has managed to secure themselves in power by gaming the system to the point they had no risk of being voted out of office. Due to them bei g at no risk, they have no reason to cater to anyone but their base and their base becomes more and more radicalized each year..

Gerrymandering is being over turned state by state and the next few elections will right the country back where it was because all these far right nutters will get voted out and the new guys will have to go back to being moderates.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:32 PM   #3
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He was the reason Trump is in office now
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:44 PM   #4
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I wish FDR was still President.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:21 PM   #5
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One thing that's become obvious about Obama that I never realized before is how he protected America and lead it through the recession after Bush, its almost as if most Americans are totally oblivious to it. Also was the way he was preparing the USA and taking action on the emergence of China which I'm quiet vocal about ;)

Many of Trumps policy ideals I very much agree with, but his delivery has a lot to be desired. What I find alarming is the removal of protections that will stop you trading with China in the future, and implementing an fiscal policy that's nothing less than catastrophic all based around short term gains on borrowed money.

Global debt ratios have surged by a further 51 percentage points of GDP since the Lehman crisis, reaching a record 327 per cent (IIF data). And Trumps implemented a interest raising fiscal policy??? wtf? And his first tarrif to slap on China is at Solar panels? fuck me Amercia is screwed.

Enjoy the run, don't party like its 1999, pay down as much debt as you can, keep an eye fixed on those 10-year Treasuries price.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:13 PM   #6
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One thing that's become obvious about Obama that I never realized before is how he protected America and lead it through the recession after Bush, its almost as if most Americans are totally oblivious to it. Also was the way he was preparing the USA and taking action on the emergence of China which I'm quiet vocal about ;)

Many of Trumps policy ideals I very much agree with, but his delivery has a lot to be desired. What I find alarming is the removal of protections that will stop you trading with China in the future, and implementing an fiscal policy that's nothing less than catastrophic all based around short term gains on borrowed money.

Global debt ratios have surged by a further 51 percentage points of GDP since the Lehman crisis, reaching a record 327 per cent (IIF data). And Trumps implemented a interest raising fiscal policy??? wtf? And his first tarrif to slap on China is at Solar panels? fuck me Amercia is screwed.

Enjoy the run, don't party like its 1999, pay down as much debt as you can, keep an eye fixed on those 10-year Treasuries price.
The general public has short term memory. Some people believe the Obama administration was bad because they associate his two terms with the recession and the bad times, without accepting it was Obama who led us out of that recession. Unemployment is 4% right now because when Obama left office unemployment was 4%.

Keep in mind Trump is rolling back all of the protections the Obama administration put into place to protect us to ensure it doesn't happen again.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:51 PM   #7
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I wish FDR was still President.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:25 AM   #9
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We all agree that Obama's eight years as president was the closest to Utopia the United States has ever seen. That Utopia would have continued with President Hillary Clinton. However, there's a dossier proving that Trump colluded with Russians to steal the election and that makes me very sad. CNN has covered this fact extensively. Never forget that Hillary is our president.
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:18 AM   #10
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One thing that's become obvious about Obama that I never realized before is how he protected America and lead it through the recession after Bush, its almost as if most Americans are totally oblivious to it. Also was the way he was preparing the USA and taking action on the emergence of China which I'm quiet vocal about ;)

Many of Trumps policy ideals I very much agree with, but his delivery has a lot to be desired. What I find alarming is the removal of protections that will stop you trading with China in the future, and implementing an fiscal policy that's nothing less than catastrophic all based around short term gains on borrowed money.

Global debt ratios have surged by a further 51 percentage points of GDP since the Lehman crisis, reaching a record 327 per cent (IIF data). And Trumps implemented a interest raising fiscal policy??? wtf? And his first tarrif to slap on China is at Solar panels? fuck me Amercia is screwed.

Enjoy the run, don't party like its 1999, pay down as much debt as you can, keep an eye fixed on those 10-year Treasuries price.
Totally agree. T bills are the risk. They were in a bubble and Trump has no clue.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:33 PM   #11
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That's good, but I'd clarify that a touch. Obama haters is the reason why Trump is in office.
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he didn´t make a difference to me personally, living abroad from the US, however, he cared for the world, made the environment one of his main concerns & wanted to see our planet in better shape, years from now, so yes, he is and will remain the better President, here´s to a new change in 2020 or sooner if Trump´s impeached
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We all agree that Obama's eight years as president was the closest to Utopia the United States has ever seen. That Utopia would have continued with President Hillary Clinton. However, there's a dossier proving that Trump colluded with Russians to steal the election and that makes me very sad. CNN has covered this fact extensively. Never forget that Hillary is our president.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far.
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Ker Fucking Pow, Trump just got the biggest fuck you in history

'It hasn't been easy': Australia hails revival of mega deal that Trump snubbed

Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal involving 11 countries is signed in six weeks, Trade Minister Steve Ciobo said on Wednesday after senior trade officials in Japan struck a breakthrough to revive the mega pact.


The CPTPP will eliminate more than 98 per cent of tariffs in a free trade zone with a combined GDP of $13.7 trillion.


and most intresting..

"This idea is not to contain China nor standing against [a] rising China," Mr Abe said.
"If China agrees with this concept, of course we will work on them coming into the group."

Looks like its just fuck the USA, I certainly didn't see that one coming.
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To reply to the initial question, I guess over 55% of American and over 75% of the rest of the world are missing a President who was polite, cultured, respectful and unifying with a good knowledge of his function and world diplomacy.
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I wish Bill Clinton was still president. He's the last good president we had. I would flush Obama and Trump down the toilet as they are both turds.
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I disagree. Trump only got elected because Hillary was about the worst candidate the Dems could put up (hated by a large segment of the voters), then she ran a poor campaign.
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Ask people who live in the South if they'd rather have Social Security or Trump.*








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