Yes, there are alot of idiots out there and that is one of the reasons why scams and Nigerian emails work. They play on people's greed and get rich quick with no or little work. There were quite a few people who signed up with Bernie Madoff, look what happened there. so just because you have a shit load of people signing up under you doesn't make it legit or validate it.

Correct nothing I'm saying here makes it legit. For those who look into this Company and its founders (Mark Seyforth and Joe Perry) they will discover for themselves that this opportunity is indeed 100 percent legit and something to be taken seriously.


watch Mark explain this a little more before you jump on the knee-jerk scam bandwagon - http://gorich.124online.com

everyone is skeptical now... but when allxclub launched EVERYONE was jumping on that shit... :1orglaugh

124 Online is slow growth Company - limited entry...there is a waiting list...it can't grow faster than this scale:

Each Member can only get one new member per month.

If a member fails to refer a friend for a given month - that invite is available for another member to use.

Many other programs were not built for longevity - One24 is.

wtf is that?

op, have you tried the product? it's weird to me that the site has so much info on recruitment and very little on the actual product. and no way to actually buy the product. i can't find any legitimate online reviews of the product either.

Lol, they only have one product, and it sucks, nothing here worth wasting your time on.

You were the first one I thought of when I first heard about the product. How is yours coming along?

it's going very well, thanks!
i am taking a different marketing approach than mlm- having people try it 1st, then word of mouth + social networking based on that.

check it out if you would like-

www.takechargefood.com
www.facebook.com/takechargefood

Looks great, I see you lowered your price point considerably, did the quantity change or were you able to lower your cost? I see you call it a "cereal", do you think that might alienate those considering it for a snack which is what I thought of it as when you first described it.

Yes I take the product every day and love it. The $60 a month for a months supply is actually an amazing selling factor for the program.

As a meal replacement the consumer actually saves more than 60 bucks a month.

Skip Jack in the Box where you will spend 4-6 bucks for lunch.


Click here to see info about the product:

http://gorich.124online.com/fru/pg/3...4/default.aspx








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neither does the rest of the world.

Just checked out your site Dyna Mo - you are exactly the kind of dude that will RAKE with this new program... I knew posting here would be worth the abuse....

5 GFYers are now on my waiting list... I will be emailing you all shortly - welcome.

thanks, yes, buying in much larger bulk quantities so i was able to reduce the price 30+%.

it was actually created as a breakfast, but many customers look at it as a snack, i am playing around with some ways to embrace that though. the snack bar version, for instance, which is coming out soon.
yeah, that's the page i looked at previously. i don't see how a 50 calorie serving of powder is a meal replacement though. not trying to be critical, but since you mentioned it.


btw, i'm the last person you will find at jack in the box! lolz :1orglaugh

hit the nail on the head. one criteria federal regulators look at when determining pyramid scams, is wether the focus is on the recruitment or the product.

no thanks.

:)

so tell us how much money you have ACTUALLY recieved ? i am betting you are at minus $60

asking why you would give someone $60 plus your ss# ?

let me make this very clear, you give your ss# to recieve cash not send it. You gave your ss# and paid $60 , yet you have nothing to show for it but a box of cereal

i'll take a review copy.

there you go guys, quit porn and start selling herbal stuff

Lol, so you're going to use eating fast food as a comparison? The product looks ok, but there's a million meal replacement diet supplements out there, and most of the high quality ones are far less expensive than Natraburst. Seems like your typical health product mlm startup, create a product and grossly overprice it and then focus hard on recruiting. $60 for 18 ounces, please.

When you join the Company as a Rep, or ANY Company that will be sending you MONTHLY checks, of course they DO ask for your tax information... Are you not from this country or something to be asking such a silly question?

Smokey please feel free not to join, but calling into question the legality and legitimacy of something before you have done any independent research just makes you look lazy.

This is the last post of yours I will be responding to.

Good Luck and no hard feelings :)

the #2 "search suggestion" for "mark seyforth" on google is "mark seyforth scam"

Lazy - you are just like many of the people who I have talked to about 124...

They assume "Hey nothing new here - nothing to see, move along"

You are making an assumption that is very very wrong. But I'm not going to get into convincing anyone. The people who get this...aren't posting in this thread.





Part of the fun of being in this program is to watch people who were, at first, TOTAL naysayers.... Some of which are now my most motivated reps.






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Mo did not ask for my SSN when I got his product but he did ask for some weird measurements :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

name me any reputable company that asks for ss# and money. I can answer it for you .. none
my location is next to my name


looks like a scam , walks like a scam , says it's not a scam , ITS A SCAM.

that rule has never proven me wrong, ever.

infact you dont even need to bother with the first 2, anytime something says "not a scam" it's always a scam, that is THE rally call for scams.

dogs bark , cats meow, scams always say " this is not a scam "

:2 cents::2 cents:

Well I said I wasn't going to respond to you but here we go...for the last time...

Please follow the links to the sites under "mark seyforth scam"

Those are sites created by my fellow One24 Reps - saying what a scam Mark Seyforth is NOT...

Thats just clever adword campaigning.

please visit those sites and that will be instantly apparent to you.

New XTC,

Here is the problem with those here in GFY and most of the sheep in the world today......


#1
From a psychological view point, this
information is not easy to swallow, one
can not accept this info and go on with
their lives in the same way

The brain recognizes that this info will force it
to re-arrange and re-program several pieces of
information it has accumulated over the years.

And the brain will fight, because this requires a
high amount of mental effort, and the best way
to avoid such effort, is to reject the info.

#2
The second reason deals with the problem of ego.
Due to a person's ego, he will fight you
and your information, because he/she
values their words over yours.

They can not accept that you might of stumble upon such
valuable truths, that they did not realize before, and in
defense of their ego, they disclaim your truths.

#3
In many occasions the person is so comfortable
living life fast, they simply don't want
to change their way of life, and couldn't care
less about whats happening in the world.

They are to focused on themselves.

#4
They believe and value the voice of
the system, it has become the prime
decider of their reality.

What is the voice of the system?

The Media!

Most people, believe the illusion.

So let me get this straight... You are flat out claiming that the company I am repping is a scam?

That is a pretty serious allegation, hope you intend on providing some proof of your claim.

Because I can provide a whole lot of proof to the contrary.

First smart poster... thanks!

MLM = SCAM. Case closed.


Here's a Don Lapre video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nns3He0qYJs

apparently you don't understand how google search suggestion works :)


"As you type, Google's algorithm predicts and displays search queries based on other users' search activities"

i.e. it says "mark seyforth scam" because thats the most popular term other people have searched for

You're not going to get into convincing anyone? Did you just expect to post your referral link and have all of us jump with joy as we signed up? Richie, if you are going to be anywhere near successful with mlm then you need to learn how to address the healthy skepticism most people are going to have.

I've watched hundreds of health related mlms come and go over the last 25 years and participated in a few, most of them looked just like 124. They take a health related product, make exaggerated claims, grossly overprice it and then spend all their time and resources pumping up the compensation plan and recruiting. Ultimately you're going to be trying to get your downline to buy and sell a $15 product for $60 so that you can get paid, lets call it what it is.

i needed those to help me visualize during our cyber sessions.

:warning

fucking pyramid scheme spam! :mad:
oooops, sorry MLM is not pyramid... but a 'barely legal' pyramid...
:pimp

screw you dude for spamming this crap. :321GFY

You really know there's no money left in porn when an MLM thread lasts this long and no one from GFY has banned this stupid fuck yet.

Keep up the great work, Mods.

nice one :)

yet... here I am.


there is a very good reason why GFY is an appropriate place to discuss this new program (they call it IRP for Incentivized Referral Plan, not MLM) - this is an INTERNET based program. The whole thing runs on a very clean and elaborate admin within your rep website.


Anyone with even a small amount of Internet traffic could do incredibly well with this, this is a great new thing for a community of webmasters, many of which are struggling as of late :)

I apologize for my skepticism earlier... it's obviously not a scam, it's more like a charity for bros.

because it is an adult related product/service ?

fail

because everyone knows mlm's are scams, you could call it gold and anyone with half a brain can spot it as a pyramid scheme from a mile away.


yet by your own admission you haven't earned one penny from it. infact you are at minus $60

why can't i find one single place online to purchase this product? not one.

I have made $8 million dollars since I started reading this thread from his methods.

Really Dyna mo? You really need the most rudimentary function of this explained to you?

You can only buy the product if you sign up as a rep... You buy one unit of product per month, and refer one person per month to join under you.

It doesn't matter if you join under my group or someone else' - you have to go on the waiting list like everyone else.

On Dec. 24th I will be able to place people that are on my waiting list.

The plan is absolutely ingenious once you can wrap your mind around it. Those that think they KNOW that this is in any way the same as other MLM's are very mistaken.






btw - If you are just curious to check out the product prior to deciding whether or not to join - then many reps, including myself can easily make that happen.

no need to try and be insulting. i was interested in purchasing and, not being able to find it available online, thought i would inquire.

is this how the company handles all inquiries?

I do sincerely apologize for my tone...

after looking at your website I was optimistic that you may come on board - you rudely shut me down with a "no thanks" so that was just a little tit for tat... no hard feelings :)

And remember - I do not work for the Company- I'm just an Independent rep.

Dyna Mo - if you have customers for nutritional products - I would take a very long hard look at what Im telling you... You could easily be at 100k per month in 1-2 years with One24.


60 bucks to see where the rabbit hole goes....

you interpret a polite "no thanks" as a rude shut down? i will continue marketing/selling my own whole food products to get to, and surpass, those #s.

Because it's the cover for the pyramidyness of the scheme - they can't just ask for your $60 and give you nothing.

Oh the plot thickens guys, its $60 a month recurring to stay on as rep.

So you don't order your shit one month they shitcan you (keep any money you might have accumulated?) and give your "spot" in the "system" to the next on the "waiting list"?

How old are you Richie? You must be completely new to mlm, there is nothing ingenious about this compensation plan. 124 isn't the first program to have an online beta and staggered waiting list placement along with multiple levels of % overrides. Looking at the base level compensation, I was shocked to find the payouts so low, only $1.50 commission on a $60/sale, ouch.

Also, you're going to get yourself in some hot water if you try and promote Natraburst as a meal replacement. Don't see how a 50 calorie serving of a nutritional supplement could be anywhere near considered healthy as a total meal replacement.