then why are we living healthier and longer than any point in human history?

if we we're being poisoned you'd expect life expectancy and quality of life to plummet. that doesn't appear to be the case.

and again I ask, are you attributing this to forced fluoride use? Because if not, your question is pointless.

You're just trying desperately to hold on to your contention that flouride is somehow harming us on a massive scale. it's used so widely that you'd expect a down turn in what I said in my last post. there, attributed. happy now?

show me something that documents how fluoride increases life expectancy and then you'll have a point. Until then, it's simply another poison.
As I stated with my cigarette example.... cigarettes are also a poison, yet life expectancies have increased as well.... yet you would not attribute cigarettes to be the cause. Fluoride is no different in that regard. The only difference is in the case of fluoride, it is being PUT there (aka forced) by the government.

show me proof that it's harming us. because I don't see it.

The U.S. Government is expected to reduce the recommended amount of fluoride in the drinking water after finding that 41% of kids have mild fluorosis.

LINK

So why stop at Fluoride? Why not add every chemical known to man to the water supply as long as there is no proof that it causes harm?

looks like the population will become unruly soon then eh.

minor dental ailment from over flouridization isn't anything to be up in arms about as far as I'm concerned. Sure, flouride levels could clearly use some reduction but I would hardly call this poisoning.

you can call it whatever you want. It doesn't change what it is.

I call it a net gain for human health.

so you think the government should be deciding what to put in our water & food?

Of course he does. He a dirt bag commie. Commies love big brother.

no no no this is a horrible comparison sorry... cigarettes are 100% voluntary use... our water is something WE ALL drink and eat without option. You can drink all the dasani you want you still will get the same amounts we all do from showers and cooking etc...

why are you such an entropy enthusiast? It's gotten so bad lately you don't even have logical forms of backing it up anymore...

actually thats a direct correlation.... water isn't something any of us can avoid.. and flouride is in all the water we drink or use... bottle water snobs (meaning people who ONLY drink bottled water) make up a very small percentage of canada and the us, you take that into consideration and you consider that lifespans are rising that would mean its not affecting us... and if it is it is benign...

you don't need labs to figure that out, its just obvious...

Is is poisonous? Yes, it is. Are they adding it to our water? Yes, they are. Why are they adding it? No idea. Are you crazy if you wonder why they are adding it? No.

you are so very wrong.

I don't believe there should be centralized forms of government. so no, not really.

I'm a libertarian socialist.

Adherents of libertarian socialism assert that a society based on freedom and equality can be achieved through abolishing authoritarian institutions that control certain means of production and subordinate the majority to an owning class or political and economic elite.[8] Libertarian socialism also constitutes a tendency of thought that informs the identification, criticism and practical dismantling of illegitimate authority in all aspects of life.

The dumbing down of America?...



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https://youtube.com/watch?v=_Ys9q1cvKGk



https://youtube.com/watch?v=yblka13FfCA

I don't think it should be forced, but I also believe flouride to be more beneficial than harmful when administered properly.

of course they will indoctrinate you from birth and tell you it's "beneficial" to you.... (and then one person spreads the lie to another, and another and another....) what sort of lunkhead would come out and admit it's pure poison. They won't even own up to the 9/11 false flag, they sure as shit aren't going to own up to poisoning the population.

I've looked into all aspects of flouride. from real scientific research to tinfoil hat nutjob bullshit.

This is the conclusion I, and I alone, have came to. deal with it.

I do, they have less regulations on bottled water then tap water. And you not fucken the planet sideways in the ass with tap water. Also I drink tap water everywhere and have never been sick from it.

1. So do you, as a 'libertarian socialist' (someone who is supposed to oppose aggression), think the State should administer this 'medicine' to everyone? Or should people be free to decide what they eat or drink and what they don't what to eat or drink?

2. What is the best way to 'properly administer' medication?
* People going to a doctor, getting a prescription and taking their tablets.
* Government bureaucrats putting large doses of the stuff in the water supply, not knowing who's going to drink it (or how much or if they might be allergic to it or if they might have brittle bone disease or if it might cause a problem with their other medication or...)

read my posts in this fucking thread.
It should be up to the individual to decide for himself, I dont give a shit where they get it.. and again, read and comprehend the fucking thread.

Strange actually, I've seen Batman films trying to get other messages out too, trying to remember, something to do with depopulation

You used expressions like 'a net gain for human health'. 'Human health' is collectivist notion. So I'm surprised you agree that individuals should decide for themselves, since it looked like you were condoning the fact that the Government commits harm while having good intentions. Intervening in people's lives (forcing them to take certain medications) and writing the harm one causes by doing so off as 'the cost of improving human health' isn't something a real libertarian would agree with.

:2 cents:

you're fucking retarded.

welcome to my ignore list.


Don't worry though, I want you to know that you'll be with good company

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Just so I understand this discussion, in what way is Fluoride a poison?

I am just trying to figure out why you say that it is... Do you just base this on the fact that certain types of Fluoride compounds are poisonous? Or do you specifically mean the illness "Dental fluorosis"?

I mean, if they are trying to poison you, then there must also be a goal there, right? Or is it just so you accept other stuff added to the water so they start with what you call a poison?

I do agree that adding it to the water without asking is kinda fucked up...

it's just the same bunch of gfyers doing their best alex jones impersonation. nothing new.

mmmmmmmmm fluoridated water :)

Holy shit ... Boneprone troll threads are not even as funny as this one!!!

Basically too much of the type of flouride used in water can be a bad thing for teeth and bones. but proper dosages can be beneficial to them.


Stop thinking, they don't take to kindly to that around this here part of the internet.

I'm getting a shotgun...

One of the thing that misleads a lot of people is that they don't realize that the Pharms and their experiments are corrupt; results are fixed for profits. In fact, I can't critisize too much, I remember fixing my A-level Physics project results and getting a high grade based on lies.

Those who aren't aware of the corruption will go and take a look in the Pharm Handbook of Science and say "Says here flouride is safe and good for the teeth", but then if you tell that to someone who's aware of the corruption it's like quoting the bible to an atheist

Don't believe the Pharms are corrupt? Here Bayer have been caught knowingly selling a drug with HIV in it https://youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs
They are at least as corrupt as the Banks, but I would argue more on the basis that they are actually poisining people, the banks are just robbing us

By the way, the purpose of the fluoride is not to kill, it's to sedate, calm you down, make you not care. They don't like protests and more importantly the concept of revolutions. The people at the top like to protect their positions of royalty and power

indeed.

i refuse to be sedated.

This is what happens when you smoke weed all day.

if i smoked weed you might have a point.

lol 45678

and the evidence to back up your cute little theory is?...

it's about damn time someone made a solid point. nice work.

Although I disagree, not about the scientific corruption part, but that the science done on flouride is corrupted. the shit has been in use for decades, we know for sure that too much = bad for teeth and bones. If it was corrupted.. why let out information about it's risks? what could possibly be gained by letting that little seed of doubt out?

Holy shit ... Boneprone troll threads are not even as funny as this one!!!

on any given subject, the truth will always come out sooner or later.

and don't forget, our very same government is known for experimenting on it's citizens in the past, more than a few times. This isn't opinion, it's fact.

There is allot of crap in our water.....just heard about this a week or so ago.
"31 cities? tap water has cancer-causing hexavalent chromium"

Our water taste like crap and now they want a 7% increase on water bills this coming year.

Is your state on the list?
http://eartheasy.com/blog/2010/12/ca...31-u-s-cities/

I'm well aware of this. Tuskegee Syphilis experiment, MKULTRA, Ect. But that's neither here nor there, we are talking about fluoride. I feel the truth about fluoride is pretty much out there. way too much independent testing has been performed. We know it's risks. In those other cases there was a complete blackout of information until it was all released, That doesn't seem to be the case with fluoride because everyone knows it's there, and anyone can test it. It's really hard to keep information secret under these circumstances.

so maybe they have learned from their past mistakes. Very often the best way to hide something is in plain sight. Instead of overtly "forcing" it upon us, make the public demand it. Much like they did with the two illegal wars in the mid-east.