Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17827376)

Sigh. Of course Nicotine is a poison. Take too much of it and you will most CERTAINLY die on the spot from it. It's actually a very potent poison. On top of that, there are many carcinogenic substances in cigarettes. So yes bravo we agree that cigarettes are both poisonous and legal.

There's plenty of substances that fall in to that category. People WILLINGLY consume Ethanol all the time, and that's a poison too! Not as toxic as nicotine, but a substance that's processed only by the Liver and is absolutely a poison. In fact your metabolism drops pretty much everything else to get right to work on removing it from your system as fast as it can.

The difference is that this isn't a subversive plot like you conclude adding fluorine to water is. Remember your words here, not mine.



The fact that people knowingly consume these posions, yet still live longer does not mean these poisons make you live longer. That's what is meant when you say "Correlation does not equal causation". The facts are smokers live longer today than smokers did in the past. Same with drinkers. Non smokers and non drinkers live even longer. This is because of improvements in sanitation, food supply and Medical Science.

In order for us to accept your position that Fluoride is being added WITH MALICE to the water, then we have to accept that Medical Science, on a whole, is in on it. If we accept that we run in to a logical problem. On one hand science is working hard to help us live longer fuller lives, but on the other hand it's also contributing to a shadowy "poisoning" of the population.

See this is where you're making a logical leap but your logic is faulty. You're arguing the flouride is being forced on everyone, with a conspiratoral motive, to condition the population. The overwhelming majority of Medical Science does not support your position. It's simply something that fits in to your "fuck the man" World views which are very obvious in your posts.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827390)

When fluoride is added to the general population water supply, I view that as "forcing" it upon us. Sorry you don't see it that way. And not all of "medical science" agrees with you.

and yes, fuck the man.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17827127)

what makes you think i don't? i even use a shower filter to remove fluoride and other contaminates since the skin absorbs that shit quite easily.

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 17827420)

Sorry but your shower water filter is not removing any substantial levels of fluoride. Not even reverse osmosis removes all of it. If you want to avoid the toxic waste byproduct from the aluminum and fertilizer industry (sodium fluoride) then you will have to drink and bathe in distilled water. Even better you could move to the countryside and dig a well.

I have had signs fluorosis on my front teeth since I was a child. We moved to a city that adds sodium fluoride to the water and it showed up within a few years.

Sucks when 98% of the human population are complete sheep. As a child I never had a choice but at least my daughter is not drinking that garbage.:thumbsup

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17827431)

you might want to do some research on how shitty distilled water is for drinking purposes.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827229)

how exactly do you attribute longer life spans to fluoride use?

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827458)

he didn't attribute it to shit. his point was if the government was poisoning us why are we living longer?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827521)

and my point was that it was a piss poor point.

it's not a question of "if the government is poisoning us".... they are, it's a fact.

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827531)

then why are we living healthier and longer than any point in human history?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827541)

and again I ask, are you attributing this to forced fluoride use? Because if not, your question is pointless.

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827554)

You're just trying desperately to hold on to your contention that flouride is somehow harming us on a massive scale. it's used so widely that you'd expect a down turn in what I said in my last post. there, attributed. happy now?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827560)

show me something that documents how fluoride increases life expectancy and then you'll have a point. Until then, it's simply another poison.

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827562)

show me proof that it's harming us. because I don't see it.

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827562)

show me proof that it's harming us. because I don't see it.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827568)

The U.S. Government is expected to reduce the recommended amount of fluoride in the drinking water after finding that 41% of kids have mild fluorosis.

LINK

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827568)

The U.S. Government is expected to reduce the recommended amount of fluoride in the drinking water after finding that 41% of kids have mild fluorosis.

LINK

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827577)

minor dental ailment from over flouridization isn't anything to be up in arms about as far as I'm concerned. Sure, flouride levels could clearly use some reduction but I would hardly call this poisoning.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827582)

you can call it whatever you want. It doesn't change what it is.

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827590)

I call it a net gain for human health.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827592)

so you think the government should be deciding what to put in our water & food?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827560)

show me something that documents how fluoride increases life expectancy and then you'll have a point. Until then, it's simply another poison.
As I stated with my cigarette example.... cigarettes are also a poison, yet life expectancies have increased as well.... yet you would not attribute cigarettes to be the cause. Fluoride is no different in that regard. The only difference is in the case of fluoride, it is being PUT there (aka forced) by the government.

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17827242)

Non Sequitur...

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17827605)

Of course he does. He a dirt bag commie. Commies love big brother.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827592)

so you think the government should be deciding what to put in our water & food?

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17827574)

So why stop at Fluoride? Why not add every chemical known to man to the water supply as long as there is no proof that it causes harm?

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827720)

I don't think it should be forced, but I also believe flouride to be more beneficial than harmful when administered properly.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17827758)

of course they will indoctrinate you from birth and tell you it's "beneficial" to you.... (and then one person spreads the lie to another, and another and another....) what sort of lunkhead would come out and admit it's pure poison. They won't even own up to the 9/11 false flag, they sure as shit aren't going to own up to poisoning the population.

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17827158)

Who in the hell drinks city water from the tap? LOL

That being said... you do realize it's in most mouthwash and toothpaste right?

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827720)

I don't think it should be forced, but I also believe flouride to be more beneficial than harmful when administered properly.

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17827800)

1. So do you, as a 'libertarian socialist' (someone who is supposed to oppose aggression), think the State should administer this 'medicine' to everyone? Or should people be free to decide what they eat or drink and what they don't what to eat or drink?

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17827800)

2. What is the best way to 'properly administer' medication?
* People going to a doctor, getting a prescription and taking their tablets.
* Government bureaucrats putting large doses of the stuff in the water supply, not knowing who's going to drink it (or how much or if they might be allergic to it or if they might have brittle bone disease or if it might cause a problem with their other medication or...)

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17827107)

it's like when the joker tainted the water supply in that batman movie huh!

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17827818)

It should be up to the individual to decide for himself, I dont give a shit where they get it.. and again, read and comprehend the fucking thread.

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17827931)

'Human health' is collectivist notion.