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MaDalton 01-09-2011 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17831809)
A law enacted last year allowed Loughner to conceal and carry the pistol without a permit. [/i]"
look up the judge that got killed, he contributed to that law. kind of ironic

Vendzilla 01-09-2011 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17831912)
No law is 100% guaranteed to work all the time. Sure there will be psychopaths who would still be able to legally purchase a gun regardless of any type of check. Doesn't mean such a gun law psychological check is totally useless...it would still help to catch at least some insane people.
Well I don't see that ever happening. Guns are part of the American culture, we were born in revolt with guns and are sure to keep them.

But if they ever did something like that, it would take a decade to enact to get something that would be approved for a test.

I will give you this, I think that anyone that is believed unstable by the court or a professional should be reported to the police and have their guns removed till they can be tested.

12clicks 01-09-2011 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17831352)
I'm the chick eh, I don't need a gun to defend myself, classic. I'd kick the fuck out of you on any given day that I'm sure of. Here we learn how defend ourselves. Enjoy being scared day to day and feeling the need to defend yourself with a gun you cunt.
Come now, little girl. Put down your cosmo. Your mouth is writing checks you 150 pound girly body can't cash.:1orglaugh

The Demon 01-09-2011 06:34 PM
I definitely agree with more stringent background checks but slutboat's premises are hilariously retarded.

Amputate Your Head 01-09-2011 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17831954)
slutboat's premises are hilariously retarded.
agreed. :2 cents:

Slutboat 01-09-2011 06:43 PM
hahaha Venzilla finds some graphs from a Pro-Gun right wing bullshit site called "Just Facts" - and your silly graphs do nothing to address the point I made.

Here is the slant from the bogus "Just Facts" on gun control:

Does increased government control of firearms lead to a more civilized, less violent society; or does it leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of violent criminals?

(the obvious answer being YES it leads to a more civilized, less violent society)

hahaa you are such a fucking sucker for right wing propaganda Venzilla - that site is probably OWNED by the NRA

The Demon 01-09-2011 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17831967)
hahaha Venzilla finds some graphs from a Pro-Gun right wing bullshit site called "Just Facts" - and your silly graphs do nothing to address the point I made.

Here is the slant from the bogus "Just Facts" on gun control:

Does increased government control of firearms lead to a more civilized, less violent society; or does it leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of violent criminals?

(the obvious answer being YES it leads to a more civilized, less violent society)

hahaa you are such a fucking sucker for right wing propaganda Venzilla - that site is probably OWNED by the NRA

Translation: Nobody is buying my liberal anti gun websites so I'm going to rationalize and use double standards against the other end of the spectrum because I'm a fucking moron.


Dually noted Slutboat.:1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 01-10-2011 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17831872)
It will never happen.
Background checks would be the best you can get. Because to get a good read on a patient takes more than one visit. Ted Bundy would have passed a psychological assessment. Therefore, it would never get passed.

And if they did pass it, who's to say they would stay sane? People go thru shit in there life and do stupid things. I've been married, I know, LMAO
in other words, you doubt you would pass yourself. you are right though, a psych test isn't like a multiple answer quiz but if you have a domestic or assault charges in the past or spent some time in the crazy house i would think it only makes that these things should impede someones ability to get a gun.

pornguy 01-10-2011 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17829701)
* Here's the obvious: If you're a criminal - do you break into a house where a little old lady will shoot you or where a helpless victim is easy prey?

* If you're a criminal - do you care anything about the law? Obviously not! Isn't it naive to believe criminals will follow gun control laws?

* Why have we let our government legislate us into becoming potential victims? Criminals have guns while law-abiding citizens are left helpless.

* Why should criminals carry guns while law-abiding citizens are prohibited?

* Why add more gun control laws when criminals clearly ignore existing gun control laws?

* Any gun control that restricts law-abiding citizens is ridiculous - we're not the people who commit crimes.

* One more quick point: If gun control works - why is crime so high in Washington D.C.? After all, guns are barely allowed in D.C.


Stated very well. In fact in DC it is easier for a Politician to carry than it is for a cop off duty.

nico-t 01-10-2011 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17831282)
It's better than the logic of you anti gun/severe gun control morons. "OH LOOK IF HE DIDNT HAVE A GUN THIS WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED SO WE NEED TO BAN OR HEAVILY REGULATE GUNS!!!" Only you morons would blame inanimate objects instead of people.
The Demon, what do you have to say about a nuclear weapon also being an inanimate object?

trevesty 01-10-2011 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17829634)
You always look at things twisted and backwards - how many school shootings and mass murders in public and the work place will it take before your redneck DUMBFUCK mind wakes the fuck up?
Interesting discussion I had with my buddies the other night.

The 90's, emo, cry baby music started.. so did school shootings. Before that, popular music was all about titties, cocaine, and fast cars. :pimp

coincidence? you decide.



also: those things happen at places where hardly anyone is carrying. :winkwink: when's the last time someone went gun crazy at a gun range? or an NRA gun show? or an LEO convention? oh.. never? weird..

The Demon 01-10-2011 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17832968)
The Demon, what do you have to say about a nuclear weapon also being an inanimate object?
The fact that you're quoting directfiesta says all I need to know about you. Who's blaming nuclear weapons, rather than the people that control them? And how would you even begin to compare nuclear weapons to guns? Were you trying to point out that they were inanimate objects? If so, you stated the obvious and failed at everything else.

BFT3K 01-10-2011 09:50 AM
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...orm--35120.jpg

nico-t 01-10-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17833036)
The fact that you're quoting directfiesta says all I need to know about you. Who's blaming nuclear weapons, rather than the people that control them? And how would you even begin to compare nuclear weapons to guns? Were you trying to point out that they were inanimate objects? If so, you stated the obvious and failed at everything else.
So you're saying they should control the people who want to own guns, instead of controlling the guns?

Same goes for nukes then - you said the reason not to ban guns is that they are objects, and objects dont kill people. So when a sane person in Iran wants a nuke, he can have it by your logic. A nuke is just an object just like a gun. A nuke never killed anyone by itself. So every sane person anywhere in the world should be able to own a nuclear bomb... right?

The Demon 01-10-2011 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17833096)
So you're saying they should control the people who want to own guns, instead of controlling the guns?
Nope, here go again comparing apples to oranges and then refusing to make distinctions.

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Same goes for nukes then - you said the reason not to ban guns is that they are objects, and objects dont kill people. So when a sane person in Iran wants a nuke, he can have it by your logic. A nuke is just an object just like a gun. A nuke never killed anyone by itself. So every sane person anywhere in the world should be able to own a nuclear bomb... right?
Lack of understanding once again. Why do liberals hate distinctions unless it doesn't benefit their arguments? A person has a gun for protection(enter your rationalization here). A country (hint: LOTS OF PEOPLE) create nukes NOT for protection but for offense. At worst, one nuke can kill more people than thousands of guns. The consequence of owning a nuke far exceed that of owning a gun assuming it's even the same thing (hint: it's not).

Sorry nico, but formal logic only works when you're comparing two of the same things, not when you're trying to rationalize two things being the same in your head.

nico-t 01-10-2011 10:05 AM
Huh? So the nukes the US has are for offense instead of defense? And the other countries cant have them because they are bad people who only want nukes for the offense.. uhmm... ok. Sounds logical.

BTW - if id live in a country where you can own guns, i would have one too so no i am not anti gun. Your completely illogical arguments just lose all ground when you look at it from an objective point of view. You're brainwashed, and it shows you can't handle people who make valid points.

dyna mo 01-10-2011 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17833139)
Huh? So the nukes the US has are for offense instead of defense? And the other countries cant have them because they are bad people who only want nukes for the offense.. uhmm... ok. Sounds logical.

BTW - if id live in a country where you can own guns, i would have one too so no i am not anti gun. Your completely illogical arguments just lose all ground when you look at it from an objective point of view. You're brainwashed, and it shows you can't handle people who make valid points.
damn man, you have no idea what you are talking about, just stop posting.

PR_Glen 01-10-2011 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Happy (Post 17829592)
I will be the first to kill myself if they BAN guns in the US.

I would like to ask you this: You are walking down the street and someone pulls a gun on you armed only with your cell phone, what are you going to do, call the police?

If you do not have the right to buy a gun, you will lose in almost every situation involving a gun. You will be robbed, you will and and possibly could be killed.
You will have no way to protect yourself in an instant if you do not have RIGHT to bear arms. Call 911 right now and see how long its takes a cop to get to you.
In that time you will be dead, so please let the cops do ALL OF YOUR LIVING, never take the law into your own hands. Let them rob or kill you then call the police.

Very very smart... NOT

True human nature instincts are to SURVIVE. I will do what it takes to survive.

I'm against anything that calls to ban guns but your argument is completely nuts... If someone pulls a gun on you it wouldn't matter if you had an uzi in your coat, the second you go for it your going to get yourself shot and probably killed... the best thing to do in that situation is to hand him over any money you have and dash in the opposite direction.. its not easy to hit someone running away from you for one, also it takes a special kind of cold blooded monster to shoot someone unarmed while running away from you so your chances are pretty good... Would you really risk having a dual with someone over 200 bucks in cash? or less even?

survival is hardly a human trait... its a principal of life in general...

The Demon 01-10-2011 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17833143)
damn man, you have no idea what you are talking about, just stop posting.
Thank you.

When you get your ass kicked, just claim the other person is brainwashed and he just can't accept your "Valid" points.. Lol

nico-t 01-10-2011 10:34 AM
Looks like some people cannot comprehend a comparison based on arguments spewed by themself... i knew it would go over your heads, confusing the hell out of you. Can't see the big picture at all, oh well... carry on

The Demon 01-10-2011 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17833242)
Looks like some people cannot comprehend a comparison based on arguments spewed by themself... i knew it would go over your heads, confusing the hell out of you. Can't see the big picture at all, oh well... carry on
Final act of denial and desperation: Calling everyone else stupid for not understanding your allegedly "genius" argument.

nico-t 01-10-2011 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17833431)
Final act of denial and desperation: Calling everyone else stupid for not understanding your allegedly "genius" argument.
i was emphasizing YOUR flawed argument with a simple comparison, but you obviously did not understand it at all. And i didnt know you and dyna mo, who also didn't catch it, were "everyone else".

dyna mo 01-10-2011 11:43 AM
oh, i caught it, but comparing hand guns to the proliferation of nuclear weapons is not a valid comparison whatsoever.

TCLGirls 01-10-2011 12:56 PM
SURPRISE!!! Jared, registered Republican

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8354357_n.jpg

The Demon 01-10-2011 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17833798)
SURPRISE!!! Jared, registered Republican

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8354357_n.jpg
That's convenient considering his classmates are calling him a "left wing pothead". N

Also, http://lauramartin.tumblr.com/post/2...lican-giffords

Nice try though.:1orglaugh

Only the left is dumb enough to post photoshopped pictures :1orglaugh

rogueteens 01-10-2011 04:56 PM
Comming from the British prospective, i cannot understand the american obsession with guns. But having said that, i cannot see a ban working in america, there are just too many out there already. A ban now would only start to make a difference on 10-20 years time.

Vendzilla 01-10-2011 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17832615)
in other words, you doubt you would pass yourself. you are right though, a psych test isn't like a multiple answer quiz but if you have a domestic or assault charges in the past or spent some time in the crazy house i would think it only makes that these things should impede someones ability to get a gun.
All you have to do is get a restraining order, anyone can file one and once you're served, you lose your right to have a gun

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17832837)
Stated very well. In fact in DC it is easier for a Politician to carry than it is for a cop off duty.
Yeah, liberal senator Diane Finstein got a carry permit in San Francisco, after passing new gun restrictions in the state


You guys might also want to know that Rep Gifford was behind the carry laws in that state

Vendzilla 01-10-2011 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17831967)
hahaha Venzilla finds some graphs from a Pro-Gun right wing bullshit site called "Just Facts" - and your silly graphs do nothing to address the point I made.

Here is the slant from the bogus "Just Facts" on gun control:

Does increased government control of firearms lead to a more civilized, less violent society; or does it leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of violent criminals?

(the obvious answer being YES it leads to a more civilized, less violent society)

hahaa you are such a fucking sucker for right wing propaganda Venzilla - that site is probably OWNED by the NRA

Instead of laughing like a moron that has nothing else, prove the graphs wrong, we are waiting

Vendzilla 01-10-2011 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17833798)
SURPRISE!!! Jared, registered Republican

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8354357_n.jpg
Are you under the false assumption that all republicans have guns and that all democrats are aginst guns?

Vendzilla 01-10-2011 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17834442)
Comming from the British prospective, i cannot understand the american obsession with guns. But having said that, i cannot see a ban working in america, there are just too many out there already. A ban now would only start to make a difference on 10-20 years time.
What a lot of people don't understand that guns are a part of our culture, we grew up shooting a bb gun at 7, a 22 at 9 and a 30.06 at 14
We grew up watching westerns with a hero of John Wayne. I could field strip a .45 at 15 and loading my own ammo about the same age.


But look at this way, I don't understand warm beer

Alprazolam 01-10-2011 09:28 PM
any of you idiots carrying a gun scares the shit out of me. bring on the ban.

Slutboat 01-10-2011 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17834862)
What a lot of people don't understand that guns are a part of our culture, we grew up shooting a bb gun at 7, a 22 at 9 and a 30.06 at 14
We grew up watching westerns with a hero of John Wayne. I could field strip a .45 at 15 and loading my own ammo about the same age.


But look at this way, I don't understand warm beer

VZ thinks hes cool boasting about his chickenshit weapons. Don't you realize what a sissy little pussy fraidy cat you are claiming to be?

PornoMonster 01-10-2011 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17835063)
VZ thinks hes cool boasting about his chickenshit weapons. Don't you realize what a sissy little pussy fraidy cat you are claiming to be?
Someone watches to many kung fu movies.

Vendzilla 01-10-2011 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17835063)
VZ thinks hes cool boasting about his chickenshit weapons. Don't you realize what a sissy little pussy fraidy cat you are claiming to be?
I dont have any fears, how many do you have?

Funny, this is something you would be scared shitless to say to me in person

BTW, did you correct the bad numbers you posted about the CDC yet?


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